Posted on 01/22/2008 12:28:56 PM PST by BGHater
Agreed!
I do!
>> Especially if its someone like a bank who has no need for access to such information. How about grocery stores who want to scan your id...no problem with that? And they will because they can.
Since when do banks and grocery stores have access to federal databases?
I suspect they’ll check IDs just as they do now — visual inspection. And, if scanning occurs (banks can already scan state IDs in Texas for faster entry of information), it still won’t be connected to an FBI database ... it’ll be connected to “name and address” information which already appears on the face of the ID.
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Anybody that writes “Amerika” should be shot.
It is INCREDIBLY annoying and childish.
As for Real ID, we finally have a national ID. A few years ago, everyone wanted it.......now many of the same people just have to find something to criticize by screaming “no privacy.”
Give me a break.
You are right.
Any state now has the full capability of identification without federal integration.
Illegal immigrants can already be identified through internal state operations and denied any benefits, voting, employment etc. UNLESS the federal government finds it in itself to apply it's leverage in denying state options.
If a state, like Oklahoma, invokes proper legislation than that state can be illegal free. The illegals will go elsewhere, including back home, just like they got here, once shown to be unwelcome in that state. Whereby any US citizen can settle in a state where responsible taxpayers are respected. You can bet in the long run who reaps the consequent prosperity. All this UNLESS, of course the federal government finds it in itself to to apply it's leverage in denying state options.
That is not saying the federal government should not build the fence, national borders is their job, but it is totally within the resources of individual jurisdictions to decide their fate. Through GWB's tragic agenda this has become a federal versus states' rights issue. This is why states are taking up the issue as discussed in the article.
Does anybody here,anybody, trust the United States Senate or the current, or next, President to use the federal ID integration to exclude illegal Mexican immigration? On the other hand does anybody here trust Hillary not to take a political enemy's identity (through "mistakes" in a database)?
These people are really naive.
I've been reading up on this Real ID for a few minutes and this caught my eye: Before a card can be issued, the applicant must provide a photo ID or a non-photo ID that includes full legal name and birth date.
Now unless I'm mistaken, this says you can present an ID that the government says isn't good enough in order to get a Real ID that is considered fool proof and will carry a tremendous amount of gravitas.
LOL, only in America....
Sorry, but I do NOT believe that for a minute. Out of state LEO's might be able to call and ask the in-state guys to do a check, but I do NOT believe that all the state systems are linked.
We simply do not need any such nation-wide system.
Excuse me, but you need to learn some real history. Certainly the Nazis had exactly such plans, and sent in at least one team to carry them out.
"There was certainly infiltration of operatives and sympathizers — but this is entirely different.
In what way?? I submit that it is NOT different in any signficant aspect. The only difference is that the Nazis were pagans, and the Muslims are monotheists (though they "might" be considered pagans, too.
"Additionally, illegal immigration is a wholly different problem requiring a wholly different solution."
But "REAL ID" isn't it. Close the borders, build the fence, and link up employers with Social Security is all that is necessary.
FR needs a sheep herder.
If the check is valid, yes. Too much anonymity lost on this front already.
Should parents hire baby-sitters they know nothing about?
No, but the information to be gained from this isn't really all that helpful in that scenario, and/or the full information won't be available to us serfs anyway, and/or it's way more detail than anyone should have to give to get a babysitting gig.
Should airlines let passengers on board without validating their identity?
Yes. I miss the days when you could sell an unused plane ticket without giving the airline another bite at the apple. That's what's really behind them wanting to know who you are anyway. Besides, why should they be able to know everything about you, just so you can do business with them? I get pissed when the grocery store tries to pull that crap; I don't want an airline to do it to me either. Especially if they stop making us travel disarmed.
I wish I lived in your happy little world. I sincerely do.
*shrug* I have real ID, it surely ain't my driver license, it's my Passport.
It's not the document I object to, it's the uses a malevolent government could put it to.
Never give a government any power over you you wouldn't give your worst enemy.
My son is only 6, but he already knows PHP and SQL. I am making sure he learns all the tricks of the hacker trade so we can defeat Nazi technology such as RealID. I highly suggest if you have several kids, to try and make sure one is a hacker and another is a lawyer, to future-proof your family.
That's funny. I always figured double-fencing and landmines would do the trick. Israel had ZERO invaders cross their fences last year.
Homeland Security is basically a subsidy to airports & airlines that want to shift risk and don’t want to cover the costs of their own security.
Thanks to lazy interest groups such as this, we get heavy-handed government (and loss of privacy rights).
If these companies (e.g. airlines) want to ask people to VOLUNTARILY give up their privacy with a retina scan for the convenience of getting through bag check more quickly, that’s fine. People should be able to sell their privacy for convenience, but — it’s THEIR CHOICE. The govt should not force them to give up privacy in travel, business trips, etc.
A private businessman may not want his competitors (who gave campaign contributions to a politician in exchange to access to this large database) to KNOW exactly where he is traveling and what he is doing. He needs alternative arrangements, screening methods that may be a bit more time consuming — but preserve his privacy, and protects him from corporate “espionage”.
The airlines will have to provide safe — & anonymous — ways to process such business people on to planes, if they want to keep the business of small firms, start up companies and inventors/entrepreneurs, such as these folks.
....Businesses “will find a way” — if it is profitable.
“Homeland security” is just corporate welfare to travel industries too lazy to take on the commercial liability (economic responsibility), and “do it right” - read: offer choices & different services, depending on the passenger & his preferences.
“TSA” is corporate welfare — and it violates essential privacy rights to boot.
Maybe by then people will have found enough collective testosterone to get mad and act.
And of course, it will be far too late.
blahdiddee blah-blah.
Listen, moron, life isn't all about mexican landscapers.
Holy smokes, anyone with his head this deep in the sand really needs to be on someone's leash.
Some people just cannot handle liberty.
Mark of the damn beast...!
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