Posted on 01/20/2008 9:04:18 AM PST by 3AngelaD
Most diversity training efforts at American companies are ineffective and even counterproductive in increasing the number of women and minorities in managerial positions, according to an analysis that turns decades of conventional wisdom, government policy and court rulings on their head. A comprehensive review of 31 years of data from 830 mid-size to large U.S. workplaces found that the kind of diversity training exercises offered at most firms were followed by a 7.5 percent drop in the number of women in management. The number of black, female managers fell by 10 percent, and the number of black men in top positions fell by 12 percent. Similar effects were seen for Latinos and Asians.
The analysis did not find that all diversity training is useless. Rather, it showed that mandatory programs -- often undertaken mainly with an eye to avoiding liability in discrimination lawsuits -- were the problem...
Today, U.S. businesses spend from $200 million to $300 million a year on diversity training, but the new study...found is that programs work best when they are voluntary..."Forcing people to go through training creates a backlash against diversity," said Alexandra Kalev, a sociologist at the University of Arizona...
Frank Dobbin, an organizational sociologist at Harvard and one of Kalev's co-authors, said narratives about interpersonal conflict that are sometimes featured in "sensitivity training" can be counterproductive. For one thing, he said, they upset many people, who then actively resist change. But more important, he said, they downplay the importance of organizational structure in embracing -- or resisting -- long-term change....
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
ineffective? or counterproductive?
I believe it to be counterproductive.
I got all m diversity training from watching Family Guy.
However, it makes the people that organize diversity training feel better about themselves and that is really what is all about and making a little money on the side does not hurt either.
Keep in mind the actual definition of “diversity”:
Celebrating the fact that people are different,
while at the same time
pretending not to notice that people are different.
Well d'oh!
when enough people realize something is a joke then it naturally becomes ineffective
OMGROFLMAO!!!I love that pic. LMAO
Makes my head spin just thinking about it.
Divesity training creates a backlash?
Whodathunkit?
Where is Captain Obvious when you need him?
If the point was to increase diversity in the executive ranks, then sure it was a failure.
But what if the point was the provide employment to Shakedown’s friends in the diversity training industry?
People merely do not openly express their opinions.
Is that even what 'diversity training' was supposed to accomplish? How does 'diversity training' increase the skills of women and minorities to be qualified for managerial positions? (Unless, of course, they're being held down by 'the man'. In that case, their managerial skill don't matter as much as their genitalia and pigmentation do.)
The writers of “The Office” clearly understood the stupidity of diversity programs long before this study ever appeared. It must just burn the Left to see themselves parodied so expertly every week. ;)
The writers of “The Office” clearly understood the stupidity of diversity programs long before this study ever appeared. It must just burn the Left to see themselves parodied so expertly every week. ;)
OR a simpler question...how many devoted communists came out of the Soviet reeducation camps?
I’ve sat through diversity training. Words can’t describe the cold, Orwellian evil that chilled the room that day.
I’m glad I have tenure and didn’t have to grovel like some of my younger colleagues did.
You mean skin color doesn’t make someone a good businessperson? Well, color me shocked.
The same old “law” applies. I’ve found that 20% of the people in any organization do 80% of the work. Diversity impresses upon people that one cannot force the 80% of “lazy” people to be more productive because in that 80% are women and minorities whose “cultural” values are different from the managers and they might be offended if they are encouraged to be more productive.
“All diversity training and management appointments achieve is to anger pretty much every sector of the workforce.”
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Whooie! You’ve absolutely got to read the whole article and especially the comments section. You’ll get an eyeful. Almost no one on the PC side is trying to defend the smelly old farce. Far, far too many people in the real world have had to endure this ess for far too long to pretend it does more than anger people.
I remember a PBS special about a diversity session being forced on a bunch of U.S. Navy recruiters back in ‘89. I still can’t figure out what the proper viewer was supposed to take away from that, but all I saw was ordinary, decent people being angered and traumatized and set against each other like some fiendish maoist struggle session.
Having said that, I’d like to get in on that racket. I’m betting there’s millions in it and no actual academic bona fides required.
I am already “diverse.” But I remember an Anglo, female friend of mine, the kindest, gentlest, most tolerant person in the world, being brought to tears for no good reason by this kind of ridiculous “training.”
I suggested he could the Nation Of Islam as an example of a racist hate group.
He became so irate, I thought the guy's head was going to explode. He couldn't bring himself to admit that they were a racist group. I asked him if he was aware of the NOI and what they stood for. He tried weaseling his way out by saying that they were a religion and not a hate group. I laughed out loud at that BS.
He had to put the class on a break so he could regain his composure.
Of course they are ineffective. Any content that causes the eyes of people with normal common sense to be in a constant state of rolling is probably not going to change their views.
Promotions if not based on competence are doomed to failure.
Didn’t take a study to figure that one out.
Of course it’s ineffective. 6 hours in a classroom being told how to think, is crap. They’re all afraid to to talk about the fact that we’re all different in the first place & there’s a fear of being labeled a hater if you do so.
... is diversity training? Is that like potty training?
Huh? I can’t imagine that a liberal program would not work.
Who picked that guy to be Martin Luther King, Jr.? Must be somebody with a sense of humor.
“People merely do not openly express their opinions.”
The last “Diversity” class I had to go to at IBM was led by a lesbian lawyer who proceeded to tell us how much trouble we would be in if we dared to violate any of the hundreds of rules protecting any minority or special interest group from feeling uncomfortable.
I was sitting on the back row (as usual) with several guys from different parts of Asia when the lawyer started her slide show about how (in my opinion) wonderful being gay is. My Thai friend started laughing out loud every time she made a point and was soon joined by several other male “minorities”. They never said one word to him or the others and I couldn’t help but think that if I had done the same thing I would have been out the door in a heartbeat.
Good example, but does calling Caucasians white devils make them racist? They don't treat their women too well either.
Yeah, there were people on the verge of tears in my session as well. We watched a video of a group session where about fifteen people sat around and discussed “diversity”. Basically, the whites were accused of racism and the white males were additionally accused of sexism and homophobia. For all I know, the people in the video may have been actors but then again it could have been real.
Anyway, the whites in the video just kept apologizing over and over, particularly the males. They got all teary-eyed and broke down over colonialism, slavery, Jim Crow, Manifest Destiny, and every other alleged white male evil. The minorities, feminists, and gays in the video sat in judgment over them. Occasionally they would praise them for showing true sorrow over their “white/male/heterosexist privilege”. Other times they would tell them they hadn’t shown enough contrition and that they needed to understand that they’d be a minority themselves in the “New America” and had better learn to bow & scrape now because they won’t have any choice in the future.
I’m pretty alert to political indoctrination but I was amazed at how far this went into totalitarian re-education territory.
“80% are women and minorities whose “cultural” values are different from the managers”
I really don’t care what their supposed cultural values are.
I think I would have told the “diversity trainers” to take the job and shove it.
“Promotions if not based on competence are doomed to failure.”
Man, I’ve seen a lot of promotions based on things other than competence.
We’ve got a woman district manager in my company. She married the Vice President.
This ain’t rocket science. This training or strong arm quota mandate is carried out because of government pressure, not because companies want to, or base important business decisions on using race or sex to include or exclude employees. The fact that it doesn’t work or is resented is a no-brainer.
“Diversity” training and minority “rights” will in the long run assist in producing the very thing the diversity mongers fear. The “diversity” concept is based upon a lie.
The study misses the point of diversity training.
Just as public schools are established for the benefit of the educators, Diversity training is for the benefit of the trainers.
A diversity certificate in the file is lawsuit prophalyctic
I try not to at work, since I am a throwback conservative, and workplace politics demand a liberal intrepretation, which I won’t give. I won’t suck up to the management, and I refuse to opine on certain issues, since everyone talks to HR.....
The article misses the other reason why “diversity training” doesn’t work. The mandatory attendance part pissed everyone off, but the constant white male bashing that occured created the long lasting disdain and resentment towards all of it. We had a white female and a black female as “instructors” who both had very negative attitudes towards white males. This became obvious very quickly and resulted in quite a few hostile conversations between them and most of the class. The black male instructor was ok.
That was the first mandatory class which lasted three stinking days.
We had to go every other year. They lightened up a bit on the white male bashing, and instead had stupid role playing skits where the white males were depicted as bigots, etc, BUT they learned how to correct their bigotry and everyone lived happily ever after.
Your last line of the post says it all. “Divershitty” training defies human NATURE. What’s intertwined in our DNA? Likeness!!! Humans, like every other social creature, want to be around those in which they are similar to...having similar interests or...LIKENESS!!!
We have enough confliction in our daily lives (particularly modern liberalism), so we don’t need anymore diversity (through assimilation) in our livelihoods. Also, this does not show any kind of prejudice, let alone racism. It just a fact of life.
Why Bob, you bad boy. Shame on you. Go to the corner and contemplate your sins.
I was offered the opportunity to attend a diversity workshop. I was strongly encouraged to attend. Out of curiosity, I was tempted to attend, perhaps bringing a recording device to capture the vile remarks. However, my better judgment prevailed and I did not attend. I recalled that I had attended an adoption seminar. In the last 10 minutes of the seminar, the rich, white women from Scottsdale, Arizona berated us about white privilege. I then stormed out in a huff. I decided that my blood pressure would not tolerate an entire day of this debasement.
We at one time had a wonderful country! those days are gone.
The USA is really a very sick place anymore, everyone is so afriad they might offend someone, they never speak to anyone outside their homes.
Neighborhoods where people go home and never speak to their neighbor. the multiculture and diversity Nazi’s have every right to force their brand of living on me. I must be politically correct even in my home.
I can remember America when my neighbors spoke to me each day! The old neighborhood is dead and gone!!
What about unity? Where there’s one language one basic culture where a person is not judged by the color of their skin but by their abilities. Have we heard that somewhere befre?
I refused to attend the “diversity” training our company tried to say was mandatory. When I was called to HR about it, I told them I would be glad to attend when they had videos and discussion about ALL types of discrimination including that perpetrated by minorities as well as whites. The HR guy just looked at me. I said “Does the current program have inclusion of minority perpetrated discrimination?” He said, “No”. I said “Then I will not be attending.”
I heard nothing more about it.
“Most Diversity Training Ineffective, Study Finds”
The big lie. Ineffective? Hmmmm guess I’m not sure what they mean? America has gone from being Super majority white to about 65% and falling. Anybody who watches TV with any regularity or reads almost any magazine will see ad after ad and story after story with multitudes of diversity. As one example, I subscribe to a couple of home improvement magazines. One of them is the Family Handyman. In the current edition there is an ad for the Family Handyman Powerhouse Reader Panel. The ad shows what I guess are supposed to be “typical” readers in a line. Of the 14 people visible 5 are white and 7 are female. This type of ad is not unique but “they” want you to believe it is representative and real. The same factions promoting the invasion across our southern border is working hard to undermine our sovereignty, our culture and our strength yet most whites will go bahhhhhhh because they don’t want to be or seem racist. Yet our southern border is wide open and the hundreds if not thousands(ever looked up how many there are?) of race based political & lobbying groups continue unabated. They work for political change and power based on thier race yet whites keep drinking the kool aid. When whites become a true majority they will be nice to us, right? They will work hard with us to preserve our history and culture, right? They will not seek to continue massive third world invasion, right? The egalitarianism and guilt complex is thrown only at whites.
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