Posted on 01/19/2008 9:20:07 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
Former N.Y. Mayor Rudy Giuliani on Friday pledged his unwavering support to return America to the moon and send astronauts to Mars, promising that if he were elected president space would be a pillar of his administration.
"A strong NASA and a revitalized space program will be a priority for a Giuliani Administration from day one," he told a group of about 35 space industry and local officials gathered at space policy round table organized by the Economic Development Commission of Florida’s Space Coast. He then drove home his promise with a vow to close the gap between the retirement of the space shuttle and the development of the next generation of manned rockets.
“Florida will continue to be the center of America’s space program … and our emerging space industry,” he said.
It was exactly the message that the group had been hoping for. The EDC and industry lobbyists, worried about the retirement of the space shuttle in 2010, have been trying for months to get presidential candidates from both parties to articulate support for NASA and manned space exploration. The EDC recently sent out invitations to all candidates in the hope of drumming up support for the space program. The issue could turn out to be crucial to wining the state, they argue.
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I hope ALL the candidates will support NASA and vision for space exploration as strongly as this.
I do too, but more importantly I hope the next president appoints a NASA administrator that would consider for a second that they could be wrong. Rather than giving us the shaft (in more ways than one).
DIRECTly to the Moon and Mars.
Just go away already Rudy!
Many of us would like to see Giuliani sent to the moon, McCain, too!
Simply sounds like pandering to me, but who knows.
Yup, he’s promising the moon, the stars will be after his next defeat.
The Moon??? That’s so 70’s...BORING!
Been there, done that, nothing there.
I think Fred ought to come out tomorrow and call for sending a man to Mars.
That would really be exciting!
What other pandering can he come up with? Didn’t he recently come up with some sort of pandering when it comes to a form of Federal home insurance that would benefit Floridians disproportionately? Geeez, he might as well just stay down there.
I say we send a WOMAN to the Moon.
And I have the perfect one - Hillary!
ALL of NASA or just some astronauts?
“Simply sounds like pandering to me, but who knows.”
Probably. It is not like he ever mentioned it before.
But I am a strong space advocate, and happy to see it elevated to some kind of visiblity this election.
Hilda-bama would cancel for sure lunar missions, and have NASA endlessly study global warming.
Rudy? Rudy who?
LOL
A BIG 10-4 on that!
Nobody gives a darn about going back to the moon!! Give me a damned break. The last time we went,we paid all the money and the silly sob got up there and claimed it for “mankind”. BS — It was THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA moon.Close nasa down and send me my rebate!!!
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In 2005 President BUSH first announced that Americans would be landing on the Planet Mars in 2025.
A new Democrat Congress has been quietly undercutting NASA’s Mars funding, so NASA has had to recently announce that Americans will be landing on the Planet Mars on 2035 instead.
Russia has just gleefully announced that it will be landing Rusians on the Planet Mars in 2025, America’s original target.
Vote next time around like your very future depends on it.
‘Cause it does.
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Rudy is saying anything to get the Florida vote. He’s running ads promising to lower insurance rates too.
I hope that as we are taxed for all of this science, we have a definite and measurable goal as we blithely go back to space.
Other than pandering to the aerospace industry, what would be Guiliani’s top three goals for a a return to the moon?
I’ll bet he hasn’t worked that out.
Okay. Fine. Lets go to the Moon, go to Mars, but all the money is in Near Earth Asteroids (NEAs) and in the Asteroid Belt. Why?
Plantinum Group Metals (PGMs, or PeGgyMays). One average sized asteroid contains enough PeGgyMays to equal the World’s Annual Gross Product!!!
The mining and processing can be done in space - a vacuum with zero gravity and unlimited solar power - saving Earth from the pollution of mining waste products.
Going into space is ridiculous unless it becomes lucrative. There are many high tech applications for PeGgyMaes but a drastic shortage here on Easth as the metals are formed hearer the Earth’s core.
“Close nasa down and send me my rebate!!!”
The nations that lead on the frontier, dictate the course of human history.
Perhaps you would rather the western world NOT lead?
And if you want a rebate, I think you should look at entitlements first....
http://www.federalbudget.com/chart.gif
We have enough moon rocks from the last few trips.
It’s not about rocks.
The nations that lead on the frontier, dictate the course of human history.
Oh yeah. THATS what we need to spend money on.
I am no Rudy fan by any stretch. Been fighting hard for Thompson.
And yeah Rudy is pandering.
BUT..
Again.......The nations that lead on the frontier, dictate the course of human history.
“You have to keep pushing the frontier not just because it’s there, but because that’s how we find things that end up changing humanity,” -Paul Hill, Mission Control
Nations that take care of their people first, need not lead the world. My platitude sounds better than your platitude.
Nations that take care of their people first, need not lead the world. My platitude sounds better than your platitude.
The Moon? What the heck does that have to do with 9/11?
“Nations that take care of their people first, need not lead the world. My platitude sounds better than your platitude.”
Then America will descend into global irrelevancy. Like many european nations.
No thanks.
“Within a decade or two, the Chinese will be there. To stay - on a permanently manned base. So will the Russians, the Indians, and a bunch of other nations. So will we - even if there were nothing there, we wouldn’t let the Chinese and the others claim that nothing for themselves.”
THe “high ground” critically matters.
And it advance our nation in many ways when we reach far.
I wish more freepers understood that.
I am often surprised that many do not.
Good grief, what a pandering loser.
We will descend into global irrelevancy if we do not go to the moon? Really?
Do you mean going to the moon will save us from the amoral abyss into which we are falling? You can’t be serious! It is more likely to give us bread and circuses to keep us from rioting for another day.
We are already descending into irrelevancy, and going to the moon will not change any aspect of that.
In fact, overextending the tax burden on the US taxpayers is more likely to send us into irrelevancy than any benefit we would get from going back to the moon again.
How exactly will it make us more relevant?
All this effort is intended to do it to provide cover for the various black projects that the government is involved in, most of which have no meaningful public scrutiny...
But of course, this is just my opinion.
Not if we send Rudy back to NY first.
You are missing my pint on purpose, I believe. My point is that without a definite defined goal in mind, this is a massive waste of effort for a few to have an emotional high to put a few lines in our textbooks.
It has nothing to do with political beliefs. It has everything to do with a cost benefit approach to spending taxpayers’ money, using budgets taht are not fully visible to public scrutiny.
Rooty & algore, go up on our next unmanned rocket.
Again,
the nations that lead on the frontier, dictate the course of human history.
Astronaut Story Musgrave.....
“We have been a frontier culture. We were born out of exploration, we were born out of adventure. We were born out of the plains and the mountains. We’ve been a very physical kind of culture. And so, if you look at adventure, if you look at exploration, if you look at immersion in nature, a physical culture, and all those things, you can see directly how space flight relates to the way America has been born and how it evolved.”
ron paul is probably vowing to send NASA to the moon for the first time.
hahahahahahahahaha
seriously though, send NASCAR to the moon
These are all fine sentiments, but I have yet to hear anything that makes me think there is a good reason to do so now. Even the early explorers had financial backers who expected some very specific things as a result of their effort. Even if it was a risk, there was a clear goal in mind.
What budget do you seek for this nebulous warm fuzzy feeling about being a race of explorers? Would one trillion dollars over twenty years make us trailblazers again?
Most people in our society have never been explorers, and in fact most of those going west to settle it, were malcontents and unsuccessful in their lives, and they sought new opportunities. Where are the opportunities for a guy like me on the moon?
Unless you work for NASA, I can see none.
However, if you can give me an idea to pursue, that has some merit, then I might support it.
Again, if you removed the entries really going to the black budget for new weapons technology, what would it really cost?
I guess he has the Ralph Kramdon vote locked.
Too bad all the worse-than-useless "social" programs can't be held to the same standard.
NASA does have its own problems, like any organization, but it's worse because it's a government bureaucracy.
I’d like to see every program in every department of government have to justifuy their continued existence every year (or all right, every two years). They would have to show that clearly definable goals hare being met, and if not, the program is not reauthorized.
It would give an incentive to the bureaucratic minions to do some actual good, rather than writing reports demanding more money.
It's the union equivalent of "Don't Kill the Job".
Not that I think social problems can be eliminated, but at the very least, they shouldn't encourage poverty, dependency, and anti-social behavior.
At least the big science endeavors have a goals.
” I am convinced that the nations that lead on the frontiers, dictate the course of human history.
I hope ALL the candidates will support NASA and vision for space exploration as strongly as this.”
Oh, I agree with your sentiment. But I disagree that NASA is the way to get it done. Open it to competition. Privatize. That’s the way to innovation. I’m having a hard time thinking of many successful NASA projects in the last few years, and those that HAVE been successful aren’t anywhere near on the scale of shooting for the moon. It’s a mess.
I have a better idea: Privatize space flight, take a tiny fraction of the taxpayer money that would be saved, to build a wall from Tijuana to the Gulf Coast, and give the rest back to the taxpayers to invest, say, in the new companies that will be doing a better job of building rockets than the government can do.
We may never live in an age without human presence in space.
The space station passes over our heads everyday.
NASA has indeed accomplished much, even after Apollo.
not all of it sexy. But learning how to construct in orbit is important we learn by doing, and by making mistakes too.
But think of the twin Mars rovers and orbiters, Hubble, Galileo at Jupiter, Cassini at Saturn now. Asteroid and comet fly bys. Probes to study the sun. NASA does so much that the public isnt very aware of.
Private industry will play its part, I was a supportor of the X-prize.
But as a nation, it is all together appropriate we do these things as well.
There is a military benefit too obviouly.
Shuttle did fly secret to this day defense missions.
HA! ....while your at it send $hrillary, too! POW! "straight to the moon!" (George Cramden-Jackie Gleeson :)
$he always wanted to be the first *itch on the moon.
“Many of us would like to see Giuliani sent to the moon, McCain, too!”
Yes, Rudy and McCain are the very worst!!
Southern Baptist leader, Dr. Richard Land, said that if Rudy gets the nomination, the Dem candidate will win, because religious conservatives won’t vote for Rudy.
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