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'We Want To Offer Sharia Law To Britain'
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 1-19-2008 | Clare Dwyer Hogg and Jonathan Wynne-Jones

Posted on 01/19/2008 3:12:02 PM PST by blam

'We want to offer sharia law to Britain'

By Clare Dwyer Hogg and Jonathan Wynne-Jones
Last Updated: 9:22pm GMT 19/01/2008Page 1 of 3

Islamic courts meet every week in the UK to rule on divorces and financial disputes. Clare Dwyer Hogg and Jonathan Wynne-Jones report on demands by senior Muslims that sharia be given legal authority

Amnah is a modern British Muslim. She is dressed in a denim skirt and her head is covered in a hijab. Poised and self-assured, she has come to meet Dr Suhaib Hasan, a silver-bearded sheikh who sits behind his desk, surrounded by religious books.

The origins and obligations of sharia law advertisement "But why would I have to observe the waiting period?" she asks him. "What are the reasons?" There is an urgency to her questions.

"These reasons don't apply to me, that's what I'm very confused about. If you could give me the reasons why I have to wait three months, then I'll understand."

Amnah is going through a divorce and is baffled at being told that she must wait for three months to remarry, considering that she hasn't seen her estranged husband for two years.

She twists her sock-clad toes into the carpet, grasping one hand with the other in her lap, and fixes Dr Hasan with an intense look. He meets this with a simple reply: "These rulings are all in the Koran. The rulings are made for all."

Amnah has little choice but to comply: Dr Hasan is a judge, and this is a sharia court - in east London. It sits, innocuously, at the end of a row of terrace houses in Leyton: a converted corner shop, with blinds on the windows, office- style partitions and a makeshift reception area.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; culturalsuicide; deathofthewest; diversity; islam; law; sharia; uk; ukmuslims
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The lights of European civilization are flickering.
1 posted on 01/19/2008 3:12:04 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

—an “offer” they can’t refuse???


2 posted on 01/19/2008 3:14:12 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: blam

If England falls, Europe is most certainly doomed.


3 posted on 01/19/2008 3:14:39 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: blam

We can always scrape it clean and remake it into a Medieval Theme Park and Ancient Adventure Getaway.

We invested all that effort and money into developing neutron bombs. We may be able to get some use out of them in awhile.


4 posted on 01/19/2008 3:15:59 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: blam

Islamics can take their “sharia” and stick it where sun doesn’t shine.


5 posted on 01/19/2008 3:18:40 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: blam

Purge the west of Islam before it’s too late.


6 posted on 01/19/2008 3:19:17 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: BenLurkin

They need to relocate the graves of Churchill and Nelson here to America where they can rest in peace. Seriously.


7 posted on 01/19/2008 3:19:29 PM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: blam

At the present rate of Muslim immigration and declining British birth rates, all of UK will be under Sharia law in a matter of decades.


8 posted on 01/19/2008 3:20:02 PM PST by squidly
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To: blam

I agree,but we can send Bill Clinton to restore our reputation in the world.(sarc) One of the few countries in the world that is still sane and safe is the USA,the religion of the sword is sweeping across the world along with its friends,every socialist,communist and dictator ran country there is. Where are those people we want as friends?


9 posted on 01/19/2008 3:20:12 PM PST by coalman (type to slow to be relevant,but I try)
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To: blam

Sharia law is the law of dogs.


10 posted on 01/19/2008 3:21:29 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: blam
Everyone should read Glenn Beck's chapter on this subject in his An Inconvenient Book. It is a real eye-opener.
11 posted on 01/19/2008 3:22:29 PM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: lilylangtree

When the islamomuzzies “offer” us Sharia law here in the U.S., the bullets in my rifle will have been dipped in pig grease.

OBTW, that’s simple with a Garand M-1: you take the eight round bloc clip, take the lid off the can of bacon drippings, and dip. Then load. Too easy.


12 posted on 01/19/2008 3:23:17 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: BenLurkin
We will not be far behind.

Islam the religion is protected by the Constitution. Meanwhile, Islam the political system plots to cut our throats.

I challenge anyone to convince me that Islam deserves 1st Amendment protection.

13 posted on 01/19/2008 3:24:04 PM PST by Jacquerie (Convince me that murderous Islam deserves 1st Amendment protection.)
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To: blam

Very aptly put.


14 posted on 01/19/2008 3:24:16 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Tax time is upon us.)
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To: Romneyfor President2008
> They need to relocate the graves of Churchill and Nelson here to America where they can rest in peace. Seriously.

And if a Democrat gets into the White House in 2008 (or 2012...), how long before Sharia is making inroads here, too???

15 posted on 01/19/2008 3:24:18 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: BenLurkin

As they say in England, “Go bugger off”!


16 posted on 01/19/2008 3:24:55 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: dayglored

“... how long before Sharia is making inroads here, too???”

Until the rest of us get over the habit of behaving politely. Once we finally wrap our heads around the futility of playing nicey nice with our implacable enemy, we can get down to misbehaving with a purpose.


17 posted on 01/19/2008 3:27:55 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: blam
sharia law

coming to a city near you...........sooner than you think.

18 posted on 01/19/2008 3:30:18 PM PST by rockabyebaby (PLEASE PRAY FOR OUR INFIDEL STEPHENJOHNBANKER)
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To: Jacquerie

The idea that ideologies hostile to the very existence of our nation or our Constitution also deserve protection was the creation of radical leftists.

It’s idiocy of the highest degree. The intellectual inbreeding required to fall for that grotesque of a manipulation of reality is beyond rational understanding.

Hostile ideologies are not a matter of differing opinion. They are a matter of differing loyalties and adherence to them is betrayal.


19 posted on 01/19/2008 3:32:03 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Jacquerie
> Islam the religion is protected by the Constitution. Meanwhile, Islam the political system plots to cut our throats. I challenge anyone to convince me that Islam deserves 1st Amendment protection.

Islam the religion (not the political system) gets First Amdendment protection insofar as any religion does -- it must not run afoul of our other laws.

For example, I am free to practice, let's say, worship of oak trees. Except that I am not permitted to do so on my neighbor's property without his permission -- I have to get my own oak trees to worship. And if my worship of, let's say, sharp pointy objects involves their use in carving up other people, that's prohibited too.

"Free exercise of religion" is like any other protected freedom -- it stops where it infringes on the rights of others according to law.

On the other hand, Islam the political system must be kept from gaining a foothold anywhere in America. It is complete anathema to our Constitutional Republic.

Note: I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just stating my opinion on the applicability of the First.

20 posted on 01/19/2008 3:33:21 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: ecomcon

“Purge the west of Islam before it’s too late.”

I’m afraid it may be too late already in most of the west.........


21 posted on 01/19/2008 3:34:29 PM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: blam

They want to offer it to the United States also. I think that the seeds have been sown in some places.


22 posted on 01/19/2008 3:36:05 PM PST by sport
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To: Grimmy
> Until the rest of us get over the habit of behaving politely. Once we finally wrap our heads around the futility of playing nicey nice with our implacable enemy, we can get down to misbehaving with a purpose.

Which is why I belong to the NRA, among other things. The Second Amendment is the one that puts the teeth in the other ones.

"An armed society is a polite society."

But we can only afford to remain polite so long... You cannot co-exist with someone whose primary purpose in life is to snuff out yours.

23 posted on 01/19/2008 3:36:27 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

Amen.


24 posted on 01/19/2008 3:37:34 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: sport
> They want to offer it to the United States also. I think that the seeds have been sown in some places.

President ImaNutJob of Iran has already done so, publicly, at length, in writing, in an open letter to President Bush.

How much more of an invitation do we need to receive, to realize that they are ALREADY on their schedule???

25 posted on 01/19/2008 3:39:54 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: blam
Image hosted by Photobucket.com We Want To Offer IMPOSE Sharia Law To ON Britain',
26 posted on 01/19/2008 3:43:01 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: blam

Before accepting sharia law Britain should watch all 12 parts of this link:

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=5P7Y_moX1V0&feature=PlayList&p=B994052B3D9535F2&index=0&playnext=1


27 posted on 01/19/2008 3:43:40 PM PST by 353FMG (Vote for the Person who will do the least damage to our country.)
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To: dayglored
"On the other hand, Islam the political system must be kept from gaining a foothold anywhere in America. It is complete anathema to our Constitutional Republic."

The only way this can happen is if we deport all Muslims. Send them back to where they came from. Outlaw the religion of Islam in America. Destroy all of their mosques here. Stop them from entering the United States. If the Arabs/Muslims don't like it, just tell them they can raise the price their oil (like they do when they have a hissy fit) and to put some ice on their bruised egos. Then tell them they can go to Hell!

28 posted on 01/19/2008 3:45:51 PM PST by StormEye
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To: Romneyfor President2008

“They need to relocate the graves of Churchill and Nelson here to America where they can rest in peace.”

For how long before sharia law will be offered to the US?


29 posted on 01/19/2008 3:46:43 PM PST by 353FMG (Vote for the Person who will do the least damage to our country.)
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To: dayglored

As long as American Idol,nfl football, basketball, and baseball is being shown on t.v., most Americans don’t give a rip about what is happening around them. The talking heads on the sis o’clock news would tell them that it is President Bush’s fault and they would be saying “What is going on” to the muslims as they cut their throats.


30 posted on 01/19/2008 3:47:10 PM PST by sport
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To: blam

Has the union jack been replaced yet? Any day now.


31 posted on 01/19/2008 3:47:12 PM PST by Ron in Acreage (Thinking of new tagline)
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To: Jacquerie

The only way to avoid what is happening in Britain (and the only way the Brits can save themselves) is through immigration reform.


32 posted on 01/19/2008 3:51:23 PM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: sport
> As long as American Idol,nfl football, basketball, and baseball is being shown on t.v., most Americans don’t give a rip about what is happening around them.

I hate to say it, but you are 100% correct.

One reason I haven't had a TV in the house since 1975.

33 posted on 01/19/2008 3:55:26 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: MrLee

I was so shocked ten years ago when I talked to the owners of a local pizza parlor. They were of Lebanese descent, although settled in the US since the early 1900’s and as American as apple pie, seemingly.

Until I asked them if they made any Jewish deli foods. They began telling me how evil Jews are, how they control the world, on and on. So I assumed they were the goofy Christian Identity goofballs found throughout the West, but then they told me they were Muslims who moved here (Southern Oregon) from Dearborn, Michigan.

I had never heard of Muslims living in Oregon, and I had no idea how anti-Jewish they were, until I met this family. They sounded like hard-core KKK people.

They also told me there were about 300 Muslims in Southern Oregon...I was really amazed, and sickened.

Ed


34 posted on 01/19/2008 3:56:04 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: Sir_Ed

And, that was 10 years ago.


35 posted on 01/19/2008 4:00:58 PM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: blam; Calpernia; Founding Father; milford421; LibertyRocks; DAVEY CROCKETT

Ping.


36 posted on 01/19/2008 4:01:52 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1886546/posts?page=4972#4972 45 Item Communist Manifesto)
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To: blam
LOL! It took me 6 months in Sacramento divorce court. I should have gone to the mosque.

Britian needs to stand up on it's hind legs and make the kind of statement Australia did about a year ago. This is England. If you want Sharia, go home.

37 posted on 01/19/2008 4:05:53 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: blam

“Whenever people associate the word ‘sharia’ with Muslims, they think it is flogging and stoning to death and cutting off the hand,” he says with a smile.

I think that if this man had his ‘druthers, he would be all in favor of flogging and stoning to death and cutting off not just hands, but other body parts as well. He talks to the foolish Englishman, but sits back and smiles at the thought that maybe someday, he will have that sort of power.


38 posted on 01/19/2008 4:08:34 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Ron in Acreage; blam; sport
Here is a photo of Jacqui Smith, the new British Home Secretary.

According to Secretary Smith, there will no longer be Islamic terrorists. There will only be "anti-Islamic" activity. Here is the idiot in her own words :

"“As so many Muslims in the UK and across the world have pointed out, there is nothing Islamic about the wish to terrorise, nothing Islamic about plotting murder, pain and grief. Indeed, if anything, these actions are anti-Islamic”.

You can't make this stuff up.

The woman does not inspire confidence.

39 posted on 01/19/2008 4:11:17 PM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: blam

Isn’t “offer” the first step? As I understand it, Islam extends its influence by first offering its tenets and belief system to the infidels. If refused, then they demand. If still refused, they take up arms to convert by force or kill the infidel, enslave the survivors, and extract the dhimmi tax.

This is not a religion. It’s a cult. A barbaric, extorting, murderous cult that is deserving only of our contempt and which should be driven back to the caves from whence it sprang.


40 posted on 01/19/2008 4:14:44 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion...)
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To: lilylangtree
Islamics can take their “sharia” and stick it where sun doesn’t shine.

And why not, that's where the source material for sharia came from.

Just makes sense to return it to it's roots.
41 posted on 01/19/2008 4:26:00 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: blam
"The lights of European civilization are flickering."

You ain't a kiddin'! Sad to see them go.

42 posted on 01/19/2008 4:39:34 PM PST by avacado
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To: Cyropaedia

This politically correct Tripe is just the left’s version of secular piety. The more they espouse a sensitive agenda they more “holy” they appear in their own eyes.

Soon the left will demand their views are protected.


43 posted on 01/19/2008 4:46:03 PM PST by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Walkingfeather

they more=the more


44 posted on 01/19/2008 4:47:50 PM PST by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: PubliusMM

Vote for Hussein Obama, he will bring his CHANGE (shariaria)!


45 posted on 01/19/2008 4:54:48 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (ffffFReeeePeee!)
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To: blam

“Offer” it? Like it’s an improvement and a good thing?

Puhleeze......


46 posted on 01/19/2008 5:31:14 PM PST by ukie55
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To: Recon Dad

I’ll leave but I won’t bugger.


47 posted on 01/19/2008 6:03:13 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Thanks for the ping...
Sounds like eventually we will have to save their butts all over again... And this time it won’t be planes coming across the channel to bomb them, and it’ll be a LOT harder to win.


48 posted on 01/19/2008 6:13:22 PM PST by LibertyRocks (Fred Thompson in '08)
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To: StormEye
The only way this can happen is if we deport all Muslims. Send them back to where they came from.

All of them, including citizens? Or just the foreigners?

What about the Muslims who aren't that fired-up about their faith, and like a good bacon cheeseburger and beer just like any other red-blooded American?

49 posted on 01/19/2008 6:30:55 PM PST by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: Cyropaedia

Jacqui Smith needs to wear a burqa.


50 posted on 01/19/2008 7:12:25 PM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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