Posted on 01/17/2008 9:54:16 PM PST by Tramonto
Not All Presidential Candidates Are Equal The Marriage Protection Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, championed by President Bush, has not yet met with the congressional approval required for referral to the states for ratification. Will the next president continue to champion this effort? Will he sign commonsense marriage protection bills into law? Will he veto legislation that tampers with marriage? Will he appoint reliable justices to the U.S. Supreme Court? These are important questions, for when it comes to saving marriage in our laws and customs, the president makes a profound difference. And not all presidential candidates are equal.
Rudy Giuliani - Giuliani has not endorsed the Marriage Protection Amendment; rather, he supports gay rights in general, and supports domestic partnership laws, but reportedly opposes gay marriage. As Mayor of New York City, Giuliani extended the benefits city agencies must grant to gay and lesbian couples. In 1998 he was quoted by the New York Observer as saying, "National Republicans can lump it if they don't like his new domestic-partners bill," "I really haven't thought about what the impact is on Republican politics or national politics or Democratic politics," and "I'm proud of it." As late as 2005, Guiliani openly opposed Bush's call for a federal ban on gay marriage, saying, "I cannot support it at this time."
Mitt Romney - In his unsuccessful 1994 bid for Ted Kennedy's senate seat, Mitt ran hard left, committing to be the friend of gay rights advocates. Writing to the Log Cabin Republicans, Romney pledged,
"For some voters, it might be enough to simply match my opponent's record in this area. But I believe we can and must do better. If we are to achieve the goals we share, we must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern. My opponent cannot do this. I can and will."
In a seeming turnabout in 2004, Romney came out strongly against gay marriage and in support of a constitutional amendment protecting traditional marriage:
"Massachusetts has a law that attempts to restrain this infringement by restricting marriages of out-of-state couples to those where no impediment to marry exists in their home state. Even with this law, valid same-sex marriages will migrate to other states. For each state to preserve its own power in relation to marriage, a federal amendment to define marriage is necessary."
John McCain - McCain opposes the Marriage Protection Amendment. In response to a question about gay marriage, he said, "I think, uh…I think that gay marriage should be allowed if there's a ceremony kind of thing, if you wanna call it that…I don't have any problem with that." While McCain voted in favor of the Defense of Marriage Act, to this day he persists in his opposition to a constitutional amendment that can protect traditional marriage in state legislatures and courts nationwide. In spring of 2007, Dr. James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, said, "Speaking as a private individual, I would not vote for John McCain under any circumstances."
Fred Thompson - Thompson opposes the Marriage Protection Amendment. His federalist views would prevent him from seeking federal protection of marriage at the state level. In a November 2007 interview with Tim Russert, Thompson attempted to clarify his position:
"Yes. This, this, this – the – marriage is between a man and a woman. Nobody ever thought that that was contested until recently, and we've had a couple judges in a couple states decide to turn all that on its head. So we've, we've had, again, a judge-created problem. I would support a constitutional amendment that addresses this judge-created problem...and say judges can't do that. But, at the end of the day, if a state legislature and a governor decide that that's what they want to do, yes, they should have, they, they should have the freedom to do what Fred Thompson thinks is a very bad idea." (emphasis added)
All GOP presidential candidates pay some lip service to the need to preserve traditional marriage, but when you look at their actions and their own words, their credibility rings hollow. America needs a president who will fight with every ounce of his being to make sure that narrow special interests don't make a legal mockery of the most precious, God-given institution that holds our society together.
Mike Huckabee: A Champion for Marriage Mike Huckabee has held a biblical view of marriage all of his adult life, and as a former pastor, he worked directly with individuals to grow strong marriages. On his Web site, Huckabee makes this pledge,
"I support and have always supported passage of a federal constitutional amendment that defines marriage as a union between one man and one woman. As President, I will fight for passage of this amendment. My personal belief is that marriage is between one man and one woman, for life."
Huckabee does more than just talk about these values--he lives them. As Governor of Arkansas, he
* Led a successful effort to pass a marriage defense amendment to the state constitution in 2002. * Led a successful effort to adopt "covenant marriage," a legal version of marriage that encourages reconciliation and weakens no-fault divorce. * Renewed his marriage under a covenant marriage in a Valentine's Day 2005 ceremony, encouraging other couples to do the same.
The breakdown of the marriage institution has taken a tremendous toll in our nation. The ones who perhaps suffer the most are children and unwed mothers. According to the Center for Data Analysis, "children raised by never-married mothers are seven times more likely to be poor when compared to children raised in intact married families." (emphasis added) But even this statistic fails to register the emotional, relational, and spiritual toll on families and their loved ones when we collectively reject the sanctity of matrimony. The last thing we need at this critical time is to drive a stake in the heart of marriage by making a mockery of it in our laws and customs.
Yeah yeah whatever....sign up just to shuck for Huck?
Have you given to the Freepathon? ..you should since you post so many threads for Huck in less than a month.
Fred would allow each state to create their own laws on marriage and abortion without addressing that marriage in one state is recognized in all of the others and that some of my tax dollars would go to states that had legal abortion. There was a time when we left slavery up to the states too, but the First Republican put an end to it with a constitutional amendment. He paid with his life for it too.
I’m just trying to balance out all of the anti-Huck posts. Despite what the chattering class says, he is someone who deserves consideration.
If Fred Thompson does not make it to Super Tuesday, there is another candidate that socons can support in good conscience.
Fred is strong on all those points and some. If thats all your candidate has, he aint worth voting for.
Then help balance out the Freepathon and throw some money in it. Since you are using this as a campaign for Huck stop.
Where does he stand on animal cruelty? Specifically the hanging and killing of dogs.
"I firmly believe that marriage is one of the most important social institutions we have and that it is central to promoting family values and raising children in a healthy environment. It is for this reason that I cosponsored and voted in favor of H.J. Res. 88 (Musgrave-CO), which proposes an amendment to the U.S. Constitution declaring that marriage in the United States shall consist solely of the union of a man and a woman. I firmly believe that children need the unique influence offered by both a father and a mother."
"I would amend the U.S. Constitution and provide blanket protection to all unborn children from the moment of conception by prohibiting any state or federal law that denies the personhood of the unborn. Likewise, I have also introduced the Right to Life Act, which would legally define “personhood” as the moment of conception and, therefore, guarantee all constitutional rights and protections, including life, to the unborn without utilizing a constitutional amendment."
"It seems every election year, some liberal politician dons an NRA cap and grabs a shotgun for a hunting photo-op, as if that means they support our right as Americans to keep and bear arms. I, myself, thoroughly enjoy hunting, having just recently spent a great weekend hunting elk in Arizona. But, the Second Amendment is not about hunting. It is about the right of you and me to be secure in our homes. We must vigorously defend against all attempts to chip away at the Second Amendment. You know as well as I do that there is one thing criminals prefer over any other: unarmed victims."
Hunter
And no socialist tendencies!
By the way if you really think he deserves? consideration you are sadly mistaken or misguided. No way would I vote for Huck. Hes done too many things to betray my trust.
Eff off, and I mean that in the nicest way I can.
He is also so soft on immigration that he will allow the continued destruction of the U.S. until it becomes a third world country with an ensuing civil war. How Christian is that? Huckabee will never be president. I would vote for a Democrat and let them destroy the country before I would vote for the fraud Huckabee and let him do it.
“Say what you will about Huckabee. You can’t deny he is the strongest candidate on LIFE, Marriage and the Second Amendment”...
...and tax hikes, open borders, amnesty, government support for illegals, big government, graft, sodomy, anti-school choice (vouchers), pardons of heinous criminals & smoking bans.
Say what you will about the Huckster, but you can’t deny that he is the favored Republican of our enemies, the left!
Save the Republican Party--Vote against Huckabee!
Here's an Arkansan insider who watched Huckabee dismantle the Republican Party in Arkansas.
Huck would repeat the demolition on the National level.
Read this voter alert:
"As sent to Hugh Hewitt comes this letter which we reproduce in full:"
A Plea from Arkansas: Christian Conservatives Need to Take a Closer Look at Mike Huckabee's Record as Governor
by David Thompson
As a conservative, evangelical, politically-active father of four in Arkansas I believe it is imperative for like-minded voters to become more familiar with the Mike Huckabee that just completed 10 years as our governor. I realize it’s sometimes hard to know what to believe during a campaign, so I've tried to include links to published stories, with most coming from years past when the events noted were taking place.
For those who don't know much about me, I attend a very conservative evangelical church in Central Arkansas that includes some other politically active members (past/present elected officials, lobbyists, candidates, etc), and our family currently homeschools our young children. Since 1996, I have been heavily involved in numerous Republican campaigns in Arkansas at all levels (even managing a few). I have also served as vice chairman of the Republican committee in Arkansas' largest county. Yet I don't know of a single person in these circles who is supporting Huckabee for President - although I do know many that are definitely not supporting him. Of course, this is anecdotal evidence, but consider that Huckabee just finished serving 10 years as our governor (and I am sure there are many Republicans in Arkansas who are supporting him - I just don't know them). The truth is, most conservatives in Arkansas had written him off long before his Presidential bid.
That said, here are 7 key reasons I cannot in good conscience support Mike Huckabee as the Republican nominee for President. This is based on his record here and is not a personal attack - I cannot speak for his or anybody's motives. This list is not the result of intense research - it's based on what I know and have experienced first-hand as a politically-active conservative Arkansan. It's a list I could have given you 6 months or even 2 years ago. And I am not attempting to echo or give validity to any criticism he is now receiving nationally (and I don’t think ALL of it is fair).
This is the Mike Huckabee we know.1) Governor Huckabee did lasting damage to the Republican Party and conservative movement in Arkansas.
It's hard to go after Democrats with a conservative message when your Republican Governor is out front releasing violent criminals, providing state benefits to illegals, pushing tax increases, expanding government spending and programs, and constantly walking an ethical tight-rope (more on each of these items to follow). This tied our party's hands - many conservatives got frustrated, apathy set in, and some quit the fight. In addition:
- Huckabee insisted on having "his people" controlling the Republican Party campaign organizations that are set up in Arkansas each election cycle. He also insisted that his guy remain as state party chairman when party leaders planned to make a change. The mismanagement and ineptness that followed was so great that the Republican Party plunged into debt and the Federal Election Commission levied the the largest fine ever against a state political party following an investigation of the 2000 and 2002 election cycles. Obviously, this set back the Republican Party of Arkansas for years.
- When Huckabee started his first full term in 1998, Arkansas had just elected a Republican Governor, Lt. Governor, U.S. Senator, and 2 Republican Congressmen. Upon his leaving office in 2007, Republicans now hold no statewide offices, have no Republicans in the U.S.Senate, and only one Republican Congressman remains.
- It was often said during Huckabee's term that Arkansas had 3 parties: Republican Party, Democrat Party, and the Huckabee Party.
"He destroyed the conservative movement in Arkansas, and left the Republican Party in shambles." - Phyllis Schlafly, president of the national Eagle Forum"His support for taxes split the Republican Party, and damaged our name brand." – Former Arkansas State Representative Randy Minton (R)
"I think if they knew [his record] it would totally de-energize them . . . his policies are just wrong." – Former Arkansas State Senator Jim Holt’s (R) warning for conservatives around the country who think they have found their candidate in Mike Huckabee.
2) Governor Huckabee's non-stop clemencies continually hindered the work of criminal prosecutors and miffed Republicans.
The numbers are staggering - over 1,000 clemencies and commutations of criminals as governor. Most people now are familiar with his push to parole convicted rapist Wayne Dumond, who went on to rape and murder a Missouri woman less than a year after his release. But there are many more troubling facts regarding Huckabee’s pattern of releasing violent criminals. While I cannot speak for Huckabee’s motives, it seems clear that he used poor judgment and was reckless with this executive power.
- Huckabee released more criminals than the combined total of every border state to Arkansas (made up of Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Tennessee, Mississippi, and Louisiana) - even though the combined population of these states is 16 times higher than Arkansas'. He also issued more than double the clemencies of his three predecessors combined.
- In many cases, Huckabee's actions set loose savage criminals convicted of grisly murders over the passionate objections of prosecutors and victims' families. This American Spectator story details some of these violent cases and explains the resulting difficulties they presented prosecutors working with other victims and their families.
- Huckabee and his appointees ignored the laws on the books, including the requirement to notify victims' families and explain the reasons for those clemencies. He said to fully explain his reasoning would cost millions of dollars and "take money away from education and Medicaid and other things."
- A 2004 investigative article by the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette found that prisoners had a better chance of being granted clemency by Huckabee if they had a mutual acquaintance, labored at the governor's mansion under a prisoner work program, or a minister intervened on their behalf. Prosecutors say Huckabee was more inclined to release or reduce the sentences of prisoners if he had direct contact with them or was lobbied by those close to him.
- He often refused to learn the facts of the cases (sometimes not even reading the murderer's own confession), made no attempt to get the police/prosecutor's case files, or even get input from the victims' families before making his decision.
- The clemency granted to one multiple DUI offender was likely tied to large political contributions from the offender's family, including a soft money political organization run by Huckabee's people.
- Good summary article
"Last January, after Mississippi Gov. Ronnie Musgrove, a Democrat, lost his re-election bid, he issued 16 clemencies, and there was a huge outcry. That's how many Huckabee averages per month." – Arkansas Leader, (August 11, 2004)
"He seems to believe that granting clemency to murderers, rapists, drunk drivers and other convicted criminals is a part of the everyday affairs of the governor's office rather than something that he should approach cautiously and selectively." – Robert Herzfeld, Saline County Prosecuting Attorney during Huckabee’s tenure
"I know some of the people that Huckabee let loose have reoffended. Some of them we've caught and some of them we haven't caught......I used to be able to tell the families of victims, in all good faith and candor, that it was a rare event when a governor commuted a sentence and let a murderer back out, or a rapist back out or a child molester back out. But I can't do that anymore." - Larry Jegley, longtime Pulaski County Prosecuting Attorney
"I felt like Huckabee had more compassion for the murderers than he ever did for the victims." - Elaine Colclasure, co-leader of the Central Arkansas chapter of Parents of Murdered Children.
3) Governor Huckabee's pattern was to ignore immigration laws, often in the name of Christianity.
Huckabee opposed immigration enforcement as governor on a number of fronts. Immigration enforcement groups call Huckabee’s record on immigration "a disaster" and reference him as they guy who "scares the heck" out of them.
- In 2001, Huckabee’s human services liaison Robert Trevino pushed for legislation to provide driver’s licenses for illegals. It was understood by legislators that he acted with Huckabee's blessing.
- In 2001, Huckabee opposed a measure to require proof of citizenship to vote.
- In 2005, Huckabee supported a bill that offered illegal immigrants in-state tuition rates and made them eligible for the same merit-based scholarships to Arkansas state colleges and universities as legal citizens. The bill would have violated federal law and was not enacted by the legislature.
- In 2005, he opposed a bill that denied some state benefits to illegals and required proof of citizenship to vote (patterned after Arizona’s Prop 200 that has been successful in curtailing illegal immigration in that state). In this story, Huckabee called the measure "un-American….inflammatory….race-baiting and demagoguery." He added that the bill "inflames those who are racist and bigots and makes them think there’s a real problem. But there’s not." He then singled out State Senator Jim Holt, also an openly professing Christian, saying, "I drink a different kind of Jesus juice."
- In 2005, Huckabee criticized federal agents for a recent crackdown on illegals, saying that it wasn’t fair to the innocent family members of those targeted in the operation. (No word on whether he also opposes raids on other law-breakers who might also have innocent family members affected by the fruits of their illegal activity.)
- In 2005, Huckabee promoted an "open door" policy on immigration as he addressed the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) national convention in Little Rock. LULAC is a left-leaning group that opposes virtually all measures of immigration enforcement.
"He was an absolute disaster on immigration as governor. Every time there was any enforcement in his state, he took the side of the illegal aliens." - Roy Beck, president of NumbersUSA, a group that played a major role in rallying the phone calls that helped defeat this year's Senate immigration bill.
"I would hope he could be trusted to secure the borders, but given his track record in Arkansas, I don't see the conservative he has portrayed himself to be in Iowa." - Jake Files, a former Arkansas state representative and current chairman of the Sebastian County Republican Party
4) Governor Huckabee was no friend to fiscal conservatives in Arkansas.
Huckabee’s record on taxes, government spending, and growing government programs was miserable. Basically, when the economy got tough, Huckabee expected families like mine to tighten our budgets in order to help state government meet its spending whims.
- In 2003, Huckabee called a special session of the legislature to push for a tax increase to make up for spending shortfalls. This led to his signing HB1039, an across the board income tax and tobacco tax increase. Huckabee even refused to consider a Republican proposal to cut spending and use general improvement funds (i.e., legislative pork) to make up for the budget shortfall. Ironically, the same day Huckabee was practically begging the Arkansas legislature to raise taxes (here’s the video), President Bush was also in Little Rock to push for his tax cut plan. (Note: When asked about this video recently, Huckabee gave a misleading response to Fox News, blaming his tax increase plea on a court order. This prompted State Representative Johnny Key, the current Republican Leader in the Arkansas House, to send out a letter correcting the accuracy of Huckabee's statement.)
- If that weren't enough, Huckabee called a 2nd special legislative session in 2003 to pass a nearly one-cent state sales tax increase. The measure also expanded the sales tax to include previously exempted services (for more information and context, see reason #6 below).
- During Huckabee’s term, Arkansas showed a net tax increase of $505 million, and the average Arkansan’s tax burden grew from $1,969 to $2,902. Governor Huckabee raised more taxes in 10 years in office than Bill Clinton did in his 12 years.
- During Huckabee’s 10 years as governor, state spending more than doubled (from $6.6 billion to $16.1 billion), higher education and public schools got big increases, as did social services. Meanwhile, the state added about 8,000 full-time workers to its payroll during that period, a 19% increase (according to the Bureau of Legislative Research).
- The conservative Cato Institute gave Huckabee an "F" for his final term as governor on its Fiscal Policy Report Card, saying, "Huckabee’s leadership has left taxpayers in Arkansas much worse off." His grade was lower than 15 of the 21 Democrat Governors. His overall grade as governor was a D.
"The main reason for the drop was his insistence on raising taxes at almost every turn throughout his final term." – Cato Institute explaining why Huckabee had dropped from a "D" to an "F" on their Fiscal Policy Report Card.
"[Huckabee] says he’s pro-family. If you’re raising taxes on the families of Arkansas, causing wives to go out and get jobs to make ends meet, that’s not pro-family." - Former Arkansas State Representative Randy Minton (R)
"In the past, he blamed Democrats for raising taxes...We voted for them, but he proposed them." - Arkansas State Senator John Paul Capps, a Democrat
5) Huckabee left a long trail of ethics questions while Governor of Arkansas
This is an area where I think Huckabee does receive some unfair criticism. Some of the ethics charges against him were frivolous and politically motivated. However, it has been concerning for some time just how much the governor accepted in gifts and how he was seemingly always pushing ethical limits.
- During his tenure, Huckabee accepted 314 gifts valued overall at more than $150,000, according to documents filed with the Arkansas' Secretary of State office.
- The Huckabees set up wedding registries at local department stores as Mike was leaving office – even though they had been married for 30 years. State ethics laws prohibited Huckabee from receiving gifts of more than $100……but there was an exception for wedding gifts.
- Judicial Watch, a non-partisan group dedicted to fighting government corruption, listed Huckabee among their Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians of 2007. Huckabee was one of only three Republican politicians to make the list.
6) Huckabee's education record shows him to be an advocate of the "status quo"
The New Hampshire chapter of the National Education Association (NEA) has endorsed Hillary Clinton and Mike Huckabee for the upcoming Primary elections. This is the first time in memory that they have recommended a Republican (in 2004 they endorsed Howard Dean). They likely chose Huckabee because:
- Huckabee has consistently opposed virtually all proposals for education reform, including school choice vouchers.
- The former president of Eagle Forum of Arkansas said Huckabee "continued the Hillary Clinton education plan" as our governor.
- When the Arkansas Supreme Court ruled that Arkansas’ public school funding was "inequitable," Huckabee took the ruling as a mandate to raise taxes in order to once again increase school funding...which he did. (To his credit, however, he also used the opportunity to consolidate some of the school districts in the state - although rural legislators severely watered down the proposal.)
7) Huckabee has very little support for his Presidential bid here in Arkansas
For the most part those in his party who know him best are not supporting him.
- In October, a University of Arkansas poll showed that, among all Presidential candidates in both parties, only 8% of Arkansans said they were supporting Mike Huckabee.
- That same week, the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reported that only one-third of Republicans in the Arkansas Legislature said they were supporting their former governor's Presidential bid.
- After this story, the Huckabee campaign published a list of supporters in his home state. The Arkansas News Bureau then reported that as some of the names on Huckabee's Arkansas endorsement list were used without permission and had to be removed.
- This is purely anecdotal, but despite my involvement in Republican politics, I am unaware of any of my Republican friends who are supporting Huckabee. I have seen maybe 3 Huckabee for President bumper stickers – and I live in Republican west Little Rock and work 2 miles from the state capitol where Huckabee just completed over 10 years as Governor (my wife says she saw her first sticker today…..guess he's picking up steam here!).
"...if Huckabee didn't have things sewn up with Republicans back home, what kind of message did that send?....The truth is that Huckabee hasn't had that much support from former and current Republican legislators." - David Sanders, conservative columnist for Arkansas News Bureau (November 11, 2007)
Conclusion:
I realize the Republican Presidential field does not leave true conservatives with much to get excited about. However, it is unlikely I will support Huckabee over any of the Republican frontrunners because of his liberal record, his questionable judgment, and his reckless use of power while Governor. Now is not the time for Republicans to compromise on core conservative values. More importantly, we need a leader with a history of using strong judgment as our nation continues to lead the world in the War on Terror.
Two final questions:
1) Given the many vulnerabilities in his record, what is the likelihood that Huckabee would win in a general election? Democrat National Committee officials have already been quoted as saying that they see Huckabee as "easy kill" and refer to him as "the glass jaw -- and they're just waiting to break it." The DNC has issued over 200 attack press releases on Republican candidates - only 4 on Huckabee, the last one coming 10 months ago.
2) Does his record as governor represent someone who should be given greater power and responsibility? Is he Commander and Chief material? Leader of the free world? National Review recently expressed concern, and Huckabee raised eyebrows with recent comments critical of U.S. Foreign policy and our role in the world - he was essentially repeating the Democrat talking points!
Feel free to pass this letter on or contact me if you have any questions about anything stated here. I have tried very carefully to be fair, accurate, and to stick to facts from Huckabee's record. But it's certainly possible I made a mistake somewhere or worded something poorly. I would be more than happy to further dialogue on any of these issues.
Sincerely,David ThompsonLittle Rock, Arkansas
<< Any marriage dependent on government for sanctity is not worth saving >>
Agree. My marriage is in the Church.
So you are counting on Huckabee to save your marriage?
Huckabee has turned out to be the dirtiest campaigner of them all. How could anyone support him “in good conscience”.
And remember the ad he said he would not run because it was negative but he had to hold a news conference to show it to the press anyway and then RAN it, too...”by mistake”?
Huckabee has certainly not been high on my list because of his liberal policies, but I am appalled at this behavior. Mike is the one who has made his race about religion and what an embarrassment to Christians who will wind up being judged by his methods and actions in this campaign.
“There are 700,000 physicians in the US and the number of accidental deaths caused by them per year is 120,000, making the accidental death rate per physician 17%. Using the same logic, there are about 80 million gun owners, and the number of accidental gun deaths per year among all age groups is 1,500. The same calculation reveals the number of accidental deaths per gun owner to be 0.00188%. In other words, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 more times more dangerous than gun owners. Yet, I hear no one suggesting we ban doctors.”
“My position on the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution is as clear for me as the position held by most journalists toward the 1st Amendment. While I do not consider myself a “gun nut,” I proudly own a variety of firearms and enjoy hunting as well as sports shooting. But even if I were not a hunter or did not enjoy shooting, I would still be a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment right of Americans to own firearms for self-protection and as a matter of principle.”
“there is an absolute right that people have to protect themselves and even their property.”
-Huckabee
I didn’t mean to leave out Hunter. I wonder if he would have been the next POTUS if Thompson and Huckabee weren’t running.
Huck, no! A conservative is what we need, not another Jimma Carter.
I was married in a covenant with God, not Uncle Sam.
I’m legally married, but I didn’t ask the government for permission, for approval or for help.
I don’t need government to “strengthen” my marriage. It isn’t weak, probably in part because my marriage is between the three of us: my husband, my Lord & myself.
I don’t need the government’s help in such matters.
Why should I?
I think that it is important to save the institution of Marriage. There is an inverse relationship between marriage and poverty, a direct link between poverty and Democrats and an inverse relationship between Democrats and Liberty.
But seriously, the marginalizing of traditional marriage is bad for our society and our future.
“......... he is someone who deserves consideration.”
Considered and REJECTED.
He’s also the biggest lier. Typical baptist minister out to fleece the flock. If I want an ex-governor from Arkansas I’ll elect his wife.
all that is fine but I hardly see this as a sole reason to vote for Huck. I think all the candidates will do ok here and they all are better on other important issues than Huck.
Vote for Fred Thompson! :)
He is in it until the end. That will be after Thompson and Huckabee have moved on.
be stupid, vote huckster.
I Know You cant find david thomson in little rock arkansas and I am sure this was written by a phony in fact a paper anonamosly sent in an email are you sure you wish to continue?
All right. He's a proven mega-tax raiser, by his record as governor.
He's a proven huge overspender, having nearly trebled Arkansas' budget during his regime.
He's a nanny-state scumbag, as proven by his cozying up to NEA and his call for a national smoking ban.
He's a liar and a con man (a nice parlay for a ''Christian''), in that he's changed AT LEAST 7 of his positions, as described by his actions as governor, in the past 6 weeks. Now, forsooth, he's the ''anti-illegal immigration'' candidate.
He's an anal SOB, as illustrated by his reiteration of his senseless Metamucil comments.
And he's duck soup for the 'Rats to beat.
Now, go drink some more Kool-Aid.
Please note that YOU invited comment on the huckster. Please note also that I did not invite such, nor invite your comments upon comments made about him.
Do you really think that Huckster can get a Democratic Senate and House to pass the marriage Amendment? Not only are we in the minority today, but after November we might even lose a few more seats especially in the Senate so how do you think he can get this promise done???
Do you really think that Huckster can get a Democratic Senate and House to pass the marriage Amendment? Not only are we in the minority today, but after November we might even lose a few more seats especially in the Senate so how do you think he can get this promise done???
I’d rather save the country and conservatism and vote against him.
“He is in it until the end. That will be after Thompson and Huckabee have moved on.”
If thats the case, at the very end I will be voting for him here in Oregon.
There will be tremendous pressure on many Democrats to vote for an amendment. Even here in liberal Oregon, if a senator votes against the amendment, they probably won’t win reelection. In a couple of years this will probably no longer be the case.
No he’s not.
http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2008/01/unbelievable-huckabee.html
Proamnesty-antiBushtaxcuts-proCO2caps-CFR-RINO John McCain delenda est!
“If Fred does not make it to Super Tuesday, it will be in part due to your candidate’s sleazy push poll tactics which he used in Iowa and now again in SC.
Huckabee has turned out to be the dirtiest campaigner of them all. How could anyone support him “in good conscience”.”
YUP.
Links to proof of that are here.
http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2008/01/unbelievable-huckabee.html
“He’s a liar and a con man (a nice parlay for a ‘’Christian’’), in that he’s changed AT LEAST 7 of his positions, as described by his actions as governor, in the past 6 weeks. Now, forsooth, he’s the ‘’anti-illegal immigration’’ candidate.”
Which 7 ones?
This is Fraud ...
http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080117/NEWS0206/80117105/-1/RSS05
I remain surprised by the number of people who honestly want the government in their lives and bedrooms. Well, I shouldn't be - I mean, they don't actually think that the government will bother them. They all think that the government will only stop other people. They are ever-so-wrong, of course. Anyone who thinks that the government, once given power, will stop short of anyone's door is foolish.
NO THANKS NEWBIE TROLL.
Hey, at least it was for the children....and hope.
I sincerely do not know how you can say that. Plenty of principled conservatives do not jump to amend our precious Constitution at every turn. And plenty of liberals can mouth the words that imply the same thing, giving them an out. And plenty of voters understand the infinite wisdom in not taking state's rights away from states. Why doesn't Huckabee understand this?
Huck ain’t getting Jack from me.
Sad.
Maybe the question sould be did nancy tell you that?
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