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AT THE NEXT DEBATE, I WOULD LIKE EACH CANDIDATE TO PROPERLY PERFORM A SALUTE
N/A | 16 January 2008 | napscoordinator

Posted on 01/16/2008 5:32:36 AM PST by napscoordinator

Each Candidate perform a salute at the next debate.


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I am serious about this. I cannot believe how dismal President Clinton performed a salute and he was Commander in Chief telling military members to go fight in foreign lands. President Bush has been better, but still would like to see the candidates perform this task. Yes I know Obama will refuse just like he did with the National Anthem, but the rest might give it an honest try. I really sincerely feel this is important not just to me but also to all the military members. It shows that their boss cares about them. Any thoughts???
1 posted on 01/16/2008 5:32:38 AM PST by napscoordinator
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2 posted on 01/16/2008 5:33:54 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa

lol. Don’t be surprised if some of the candidates actually perform a salute like that. Ron Paul comes to mind for some reason. Maybe Huckster too.


3 posted on 01/16/2008 5:35:08 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

It work so well for John Kerry, why not?


4 posted on 01/16/2008 5:36:18 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Hey McCain! How about a game of solitaire? Betcha can't find the Queen of Diamonds.)
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To: napscoordinator
I’d like to see Obama do the old Black Power Salute after he is read the Oath of Office.
5 posted on 01/16/2008 5:37:00 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: napscoordinator

Unless they are the actual Commander in Chief I’d prefer that they not salute.


6 posted on 01/16/2008 5:37:10 AM PST by avacado
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To: napscoordinator

There are different salutes and differing rules on saluting from the different services. Army, and I believe Air Force, can salute indoors without a head covering, but Navy and Marines cannot, unless under arms. When a civilian politico does it in front of cameras it looks disingenuous and tacky....


7 posted on 01/16/2008 5:37:12 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: CholeraJoe

8 posted on 01/16/2008 5:37:28 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: napscoordinator

Less than 8% of all living Americans have served in the military. This is meaningless, although I to cringe when I see a non veteran attempt to render a salute.


9 posted on 01/16/2008 5:38:08 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: Red Badger

In the Navy, if your under arms, you’re covered.


10 posted on 01/16/2008 5:38:27 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: napscoordinator

The best saluters will be Duncan Hunter followed by or equal with John McCain. No two ways around it.


11 posted on 01/16/2008 5:38:59 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Why should RINOs ask for my vote in November when they & MSM screwed True Conservatives?)
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To: napscoordinator

Here's your example......

12 posted on 01/16/2008 5:39:00 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: ConorMacNessa

That’s what I said.....


13 posted on 01/16/2008 5:39:32 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: avacado
"Unless they are the actual Commander in Chief I’d prefer that they not salute."

Ditto

jw

14 posted on 01/16/2008 5:39:51 AM PST by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: napscoordinator

Sorry, but Fred Thompson doesn’t do a show of hands of any kind.

Personally I would like to see who can dance the best.
That’s going to be important if the GOP wants to compete against Obama for the youth vote.


15 posted on 01/16/2008 5:40:32 AM PST by counterpunch (GOP Convention '08 — Go For Brokered!)
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To: Red Badger
There are different salutes and differing rules on saluting from the different services.

I've noticed that folks that were in "a long time ago" don't salute the way we do now. Look a old films of WWII. Now, salutes are more standard and sharper.

On another note, John Kerry's salute at his convention was the sloppiest ever!

16 posted on 01/16/2008 5:40:36 AM PST by TankerKC (You don't have to believe everything you think.)
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To: napscoordinator

How about we demand mandatory military service for every young American Citizen starting at age 18? A two-year tour to start, then they can re-up or go on to college. The wash-outs won’t be any worse off.

That would accomplish far more for America than if a candidate for office can salute properly or not.


17 posted on 01/16/2008 5:41:01 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Badeye

Less than 8% of all living Americans have served in the military. This is meaningless, although I to cringe when I see a non veteran attempt to render a salute.

Wow! Less than 8 percent of all living Americans? That is tragic. What is wrong with all the selfish Americans? I can’t believe that dismal percentage.


18 posted on 01/16/2008 5:41:48 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: TankerKC

Rules change over time and types of salutes are no different. I like the old Roman salute, fist to the chest and then palm extended..........


19 posted on 01/16/2008 5:42:06 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: napscoordinator

Somehow I don’t see the point in evaluating candidates based upon their level of ability to perform a practiced hand gesture.


20 posted on 01/16/2008 5:42:30 AM PST by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: napscoordinator

Well, that’ll kill a few minutes and contain as much substance as any of their other answers. God forbid we demand they spend the time actually giving serious answers to questions of consequence. And think of all the wonderful articles dedicated to how people salute! Just like some years ago when they dedicated articles to how one candidate’s signature changed over the years.


21 posted on 01/16/2008 5:42:51 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

How about we demand mandatory military service for every young American Citizen starting at age 18?

I would go with that, but I do know that many in the military do not want that because it brings in too much rift raft.


22 posted on 01/16/2008 5:42:56 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Red Badger
Campaigning in Wisconsin, make sure they have the proper head gear...


23 posted on 01/16/2008 5:43:22 AM PST by COBOL2Java (May the Lord bless and keep Hillary Clinton - far away from the White House!)
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To: napscoordinator

I know, it comes as a shock too many people to learn this.

Thats why I never give much credence to those that want to insist military service is a ‘first requirement’.

That viewpoint eliminates 92% of the entire population from running, with is ridiculous.

And I say this as a Vet, btw.


24 posted on 01/16/2008 5:43:47 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

Somehow I don’t see the point in evaluating candidates based upon their level of ability to perform a practiced hand gesture.

I understand your thoughts on that, but they are going to have to perform them MANY times while they are president so why not give them a stab.


25 posted on 01/16/2008 5:44:09 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Badeye
Less than 8% of all living Americans have served in the military. This is meaningless, although I to cringe when I see a non veteran attempt to render a salute.

I know how to salute -- remove my hat if I'm wearing one, and place my right hand over my heart. That's a civilian's salute. i haven't earned the right to give a military salute.

26 posted on 01/16/2008 5:44:33 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError

Excellent point of view.


27 posted on 01/16/2008 5:45:41 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: Badeye

Thats why I never give much credence to those that want to insist military service is a ‘first requirement’.
That viewpoint eliminates 92% of the entire population from running, with is ridiculous.
And I say this as a Vet, btw

We have only had one President who does not have military service and look what they got us. I think it should be pretty up in the priorities if possible, but not a killer.


28 posted on 01/16/2008 5:49:10 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Red Badger
When a civilian politico does it in front of cameras it looks disingenuous and tacky....

When a civilian politico does it in front of cameras it is disingenuos and tacky (and self serving, and ego centric, and exceedingly ballsy, especially for those who did not serve in the military)

29 posted on 01/16/2008 5:49:52 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: napscoordinator
I get to post this image! Yeehaw!


30 posted on 01/16/2008 5:52:16 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
How about we demand mandatory military service for every young American Citizen starting at age 18? A two-year tour to start, then they can re-up or go on to college. The wash-outs won’t be any worse off. I agree. I was a mind-numb lib robot when I was younger. A military tour would have done me a world of good. I really wish I had joined.
31 posted on 01/16/2008 5:52:24 AM PST by swatbuznik
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‘We have only had one President who does not have military service and look what they got us.’

Jimmy Carter is a Vet....(chuckle)

Its not that reliable of an indicator.


32 posted on 01/16/2008 5:52:33 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: napscoordinator

A good snappy salute would be nice. Let’s see ... that’s number 927 on my list of priorities for what makes a good President.


33 posted on 01/16/2008 5:53:00 AM PST by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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I don’t think John McCain is physically able to do so. Bob Dole could not, either. Given the circumstances of their injuries, I will not hold this against them, if that’s all right with you.


34 posted on 01/16/2008 5:53:47 AM PST by gridlock (300,000,000 Americans will not be elected President in 2008. Hillary will be one of them.)
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To: napscoordinator
Presidents with no military experience:

John Adams

Thomas Jefferson

John Quincy Adams

Martin Van Buren

Grover Cleveland

William Taft

Woodrow Wilson

Warren Harding

Calvin Coolidge

Herbert Hoover

Franklin Roosevelt

Bill Clinton

35 posted on 01/16/2008 5:56:11 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: counterpunch

Well the Huckster tap dances around questions pretty darn well. He just might win the dance competition.


36 posted on 01/16/2008 5:56:15 AM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Very few in congress would go for that.


37 posted on 01/16/2008 5:56:25 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Badeye

And examined objectively Carter’s service was more impressive than Reagan’s.

And like I mentioned last night Hitler and Mussolini saw hard combat in WWI and Hitler seems to have well-earned several medals.

People need to get over this obsession with military service as the be-all-and-end-all of candidates. It’s not a Constitutional requirement, and for good reason.


38 posted on 01/16/2008 5:56:43 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: napscoordinator
We have only had one President who does not have military service and look what they got us. I think it should be pretty up in the priorities if possible, but not a killer.

We've had a whole lot more than that. FDR, Hoover, Coolidge, Harding, Taft, Wilson, Cleveland, Van Buren, and both Adams were never in uniform.

39 posted on 01/16/2008 5:56:47 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Second-from-the-left is making a fine show of it. Good form...


40 posted on 01/16/2008 5:58:03 AM PST by gridlock (300,000,000 Americans will not be elected President in 2008. Hillary will be one of them.)
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To: stuartcr

Of course not. CongressCritters have an inbred “entitlement mentality.” It’s not just everyday liberals that suffer from that malady. ;)


41 posted on 01/16/2008 5:58:40 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Red Badger

I’m only going to vote for someone if they can give the Vulcan salute.


42 posted on 01/16/2008 5:58:41 AM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: Strategerist

And examined objectively Carter’s service was more impressive than Reagan’s.

And like I mentioned last night Hitler and Mussolini saw hard combat in WWI and Hitler seems to have well-earned several medals.

People need to get over this obsession with military service as the be-all-and-end-all of candidates. It’s not a Constitutional requirement, and for good reason.

Yep. Its ‘nice’ to have but not a requirement for good reason.


43 posted on 01/16/2008 5:58:55 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
How about we demand mandatory military service for every young American Citizen starting at age 18? A two-year tour to start, then they can re-up or go on to college. The wash-outs won’t be any worse off.

I don't think we need to reimpose the draft, but if we do, I agree it should be universal. Men and women, rich and poor, no exemptions, few deferments. 4-F? You can still man a desk. Teach in an inner-city school. Cook meals. Push a broom. Bring a glass of water to a wounded soldier at Walter Reed. Give an Iraqi kid candy and teach him English. Drive a battered wife to a shelter. Paint walls in public buildings. Pick up trash on highway shoulders and parks. No end of possibilities. The list of things young people can do and we need done is not a short list.

I say few deferments deliberately -- let a med student finish his degree before he serves. He'll be more useful as a doctor. Ditto engineers, veterinarians, even lawyers -- hell, someone's got to sign on for JAG. But unless you're so physically and/or mentally disabled that you can't perform any useful work, you do your stretch. That means the Bush Twins, the Gore Girls, Bill Gates's kids. No exceptions.

I repeat, I don't think we need a draft right now. But if it must be done, that's the way to do it.

44 posted on 01/16/2008 5:58:57 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: napscoordinator

And of those, none was an enlisted man.


45 posted on 01/16/2008 5:59:20 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Sudetenland

Get out the super glue........


46 posted on 01/16/2008 6:00:27 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Besides, they rarely have children in the military.


47 posted on 01/16/2008 6:02:04 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: ReignOfError

Agreed.


48 posted on 01/16/2008 6:02:35 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: napscoordinator

Good one. If remember, Clinton didn’t know how to salute; but I will bet Hillary is practing right now. LOL


49 posted on 01/16/2008 6:03:34 AM PST by freekitty
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To: Sudetenland

This pix is wrong on SO many levels, but I always have to post it whenever Spock is mentioned. :)

50 posted on 01/16/2008 6:05:29 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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