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Crazed Veterans Spark Nationwide Crime Wave
Powerlineblog ^ | January 13, 2008 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 01/13/2008 6:06:24 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets

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nyt is such a propaganda machine


21 posted on 01/13/2008 6:42:23 PM PST by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Remember all those movies and TV shows where all the Vietnam vets were drug-crazed murderers? The lefties at the Times are re-living their youth.


22 posted on 01/13/2008 6:51:12 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Travis McGee; Joe Brower; hiredhand; river rat; Lurker

Let the propaganda games begin !


23 posted on 01/13/2008 6:54:26 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The New York Slimes, doing what it does best -— slime those better than themselves..

It will be good to see the “Grey Lady” finally die a painful bankrupt death....

Many Americans don’t deserve or properly exercise the freedoms won and preserved by the sacrifice and blood shed by the military...

NONE of our freedoms were won or earned by “negotiation”...

The time has come, to address the most despicable enemy of all - the enemy within..


24 posted on 01/13/2008 6:56:41 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“Decades of studies on the problems of Vietnam veterans have established links between combat trauma and higher rates of... gun ownership...”!!!!!
“Decades of studies on the problems of Vietnam veterans have established links between combat trauma and higher rates of... gun ownership...”!!!!!
I don’t know about you, but I gotta admit, as a baby killer from way back, that’s the first time I’ve ever been accused of having a higher rate of gun ownership. I swear the only ‘psychological injuries’ I can think of are when I read drivell like that from another pencil necked journalist outta Columbia! Just Damn


25 posted on 01/13/2008 6:59:31 PM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: ArtyFO

They would be more productive in documenting crimes by crazed illegal aliens...Duly noted and seconded...


26 posted on 01/13/2008 7:01:43 PM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Just gotta be a promo for Winter Soldier II...and the New Yuk Times is flying solo now, they don’t have Dan Rather or Walter Kronkite to back up their lies


27 posted on 01/13/2008 7:04:17 PM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee
Yep, I saw it and posted...

Very difficult topic for me to address without using profanity (moderator still watching me) or firearms!

I guess I'm just a freaking crazed lunatic -- ready to go on an "intentional manslaughter" rampage...

Hmmmm......sounds like a good idea!

I guess all us murderous vets can use the New York Slimes story as a cover to plead "insanity defense"....

< /sarcasm>

28 posted on 01/13/2008 7:06:36 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Reagan79

now they want to create wild fantasies of insane bands of war veterans going around America raping and pillaging in the fashion of Genghis Khan.


Is that pronounced “Jengis?” Don’t you love the ene-media?


29 posted on 01/13/2008 7:10:07 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear

This is EXACTLY the type of coverage that followed World War II—”crazed veterans” commit crimes. . .

and Vietnam.

So it’s expected that the tabloid media (which now encompasses all the MSM) will riot with the same kind of coverage.

It’s bunk, and it should be exposed for the kind of bunk that it is.


30 posted on 01/13/2008 7:12:02 PM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

This is a slander of every vet.


31 posted on 01/13/2008 7:13:02 PM PST by bvw
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I wonder if there’s any case for a class action for libel and slander of vets as a special class. There is surely economic and social harm to individual vets as a direct result of such calumny. False lights slander.


32 posted on 01/13/2008 7:15:05 PM PST by bvw
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
.....theme of a front page article in today's New York Times: "Across America, Deadly Echoes of Foreign Battles." The article reports on what must have been a major effort by the Times to comb through news reports from across the country......

Just another 'so called news publication' fit for the garbage can
Click the Pic

33 posted on 01/13/2008 7:16:32 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: BGHater

yes, since the Armed forces screen out druggies and criminals, the murder rate should be lower...

But the Army has a much higher percentage of minorities than civilian population. And some of these minorities have a higher murder rate than the general population.


35 posted on 01/13/2008 7:35:42 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals)

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times.



To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. See also here and here


36 posted on 01/13/2008 8:18:20 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Not just journalism. Almost every “detective” show on TV had a killer or other criminal who was a crazed / drugged out [or both] ‘Nam vet for the villain.


37 posted on 01/13/2008 8:35:30 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: stylin19a

Yeah, but 1987 was FIFTEEN YEARS after the last U.S troops were pulled out of ‘Nam. That’s a hell of a long time to mainstream.


38 posted on 01/13/2008 8:37:48 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I can’t believe anyone still buys that rag.


39 posted on 01/13/2008 8:44:44 PM PST by kempo (I)
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To: JMack

You know JMack, along with being amazingly biased, and declining financially, our papers are declining in the level of presentation as well. You’ve spotted a good case in point. We could chalk it up to bias, but it might just as well be a case of the writer and the editorial director of just not knowing English well enough to catch the obvious mistake.

What hits the streets is none the less an article that does include gun ownership as a crime. Is it a calculated inclusion to further cast a shadow on the very idea of owning a gun? Perhaps. It might also be proof of a couple of ignoramouses who didn’t know their arse from a hole in the ground.

Either way, it’s very unfortunate, because you were dead on target to point that out. It is not a crime to own a gun and they should know that.


40 posted on 01/13/2008 9:37:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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