Posted on 01/11/2008 11:31:15 AM PST by george76
The American Jewish Congress submitted this understated advertisement about the status of women in Israel to Ms. Magazine. Underneath the attractive photographs of Israel's foreign minister (Tzipi Livni), Supreme Court president (Dorit Beinish), and speaker of the Knesset (Dalia Itzik), the ad reads: "This is Israel." I think it is fair to say that in most parts of the United States it would be deemed an utterly innocuous ad.
Ms. rejected the ad. Yesterday the AJC issued this press release with the following comments:
"What other conclusion can we reach," asked Richard Gordon, President of AJCongress, "... a significant number of Ms. Magazine readers -- are so hostile to Israel that they do not even want to see an ad that says something positive about Israel?"
When Director of AJCongress' Commission for Women's Empowerment Harriet Kurlander tried to place the ad, she was told that publishing the ad "will set off a firestorm" and that "there are very strong opinions" on the subject -- the subject presumably being whether or not one can say anything positive about Israel.
Ms. Magazine publisher Eleanor Smeal failed to respond...
(Excerpt) Read more at powerlineblog.com ...
People still read Ms. Magazine? Good grief.
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Obviously highly inflammatory!
Susie Gilligan...the magazine “would love to have an ad from you on women’s empowerment, or reproductive freedom, but not on this.”
Well, they aren’t flattering photos. The women aren’t even smiling. THAT must be why Ms. rejected it. /sarc>
Good Lord! Ms magazine is still around??
or Eleanor Smeal ?
“(Liberals hate Israel )”
And most “feminists” and “liberals” are all hypocrites too.
I didn’t even know they still published Ms. How do they survive with 10 subscribers?
The last time I remember a pop culture reference to Ms was in the old 1970’s sit-com One Day At A Time.
It’s obviously been rejected because those women refuse to assert their femininity by stripping naked and inserting vodka bottles where vodka bottles don’t belong.
If we lose this gwot, then these feminists will be the first to lose their rights to education, jobs, voting, driving a car...
I thought that MS was gone.
You’re right and I don’t know why more of them, the “liberals”, so called feminists, Europeans, etc. just don’t get it about Islamofascism/Nazism.
I don’t call it the global war on terror, I call it the Islamofascist/Nazi war on Western civilization, freedom, rational thought and reason.
And yet the majority of Jewish people are liberal and wholeheartedly support liberal positions. Go figure.
And yet...
And yet the Jewish community still overwhelmingly supports Liberal causes in general and the Dimocrat Party...
You beat me with the same thought by just seconds!
LOL!
But what can you say about a people that love their persecutors and hate their sympathizers?
It’s still being published ??
They have a website ... so apparently so.
I’m sure dozens of hippy feminist holdovers have simply forgotten to cancel their subscription. The magazine is now written in crayon on paper towels and distributed by pigeon.
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This just in...Ms. Magazine endorses Ron Paul!
I have been told why so many Jews are lefties, but it just never really made any historical sense.
I would enjoy the prospect of them forced into a harem or publicly beaten for showing a leg or their face but it won’t be them that will pay the price, it will be their descendants who no longer share their delusions or their freedom. And even there, since most abort their babies, it is more likely that it will be my descendants would pay the price. No prospect of schadenfreude here.
Is there some text that goes with it that might be considered "inflammatory"? If not then the editors are really out to lunch.
yes :
the editors are really out to lunch.
Many of them blame Judaism, not Nazism, for the Holocaust and have a deep resentment toward all things Jewish and especially hate Israel(and yes, many of them do want to see Israel destroyed). However, they insist that their children only marry Jewish and explode immediately if you mention that they may be happier just declaring themselves atheists or Christian. "What do I look like? A Goy!!" they demand redfaced and nearly hysterical, dripping butter from their mouth and pointing at me threateningly with what is left of their lobster tail. "uuuuhh, why no...uhhh, no, no, not at all..."
These are those who view Jewishness as a race only. They are Chauvinistically faithful to the 'race' aspect but think the religion is primitive and silly.
I avoid secular Jews. This one man's individual experiences are that they are deeply conflicted, confused, individuals with a hair-trigger to be offended and are steeped in anger and hate for Judaism, Christianity,...well...just about everything.
I just stay away from them but if I am around them I never mention anything about religion or Israel.
With some of them, it is like lighting a fuse...which could be what Ms. is thinking.
I’ve had similar experiences.
There’s a man I work with who’s actually been to Israel several times but isn’t aware of the lengths Israeli’s have to go to protect themselves from terror.
He also doesn’t believe that the nearly daily missile attacks by terrorists are real. He thinks the Israeli government fabricates the stories.
LOL! That sentence was Steynian in its humor.
Do you really know Jews who make a point to have a ham and cheese sandwich on Yom Kippur?
Do you really know Jews who blame Judaism, not Nazism, for the Holocaust?
Have you ever seen a Jew get redfaced and nearly hysterical while dripping butter from his or her mouth and pointing threateningly with what is left of their lobstertail?
I think that these are apocryphal stereotypes.
I did know a Jewish woman who would have ham on a matzo for Passover. And before Yom Kippur she would stuff her face with Italian sausage and pepper hero sandwiches. Culturally she was Jewish. She was liberal and only observed the aforementioned holidays.
These are not fictional depictions at all, however I did relate the most ‘out there’ episodes.
By in large Jews are good Joes just like everyone, but there are just things you cannot say around them without breaking a cultural code. And it is impossible to know on a situational basis how or why someone may be offended. Again, I think this is the point of the magazine.
Such as, “Gee if you are so unhappy with the Jewish religion, why not consider Christianity?” You and I may think this a practical and innocuous comment, but through experience I have learned that it is not. It is breach of the cultural code.
MISSING SENSE OF HUMOR ALERT....MISSING SENSE OF HUMOR ALERT...STEP AWAY FROM THE HUMOR AND KEEP YOUR HANDS WHERE I CAN SEE THEM...ALL THOSE WITH A SENSE OF HUMOR, PLEASE EVACUATE THE AREA IMMEDIATELY..
Seriously, there is a form of ironic humor or argument known as ad absurdum in which the most extreme expression is used deliberately to poke fun at how ridiculous the target is even if they don't actually live up to the absurdity of the expression.
Having said that, there is actually a well known story of an Israeli (I believe either in politics or academics) who used to highly publicize that he was going to a restaurant (I think it was in Cairo) every single year on Yom Kippur to eat the most traif (unkosher) meal he could possibly eat as a way to show his disdain for Judaism. And there are definitely many academics in Israel nowadays who readily and often compare Israel with Nazi Germany and villify Jews and Judaism in ways comparable to the post.
So, you see, what makes stereotypical humor funny is the way it imitates part of reality, with varying degrees of exaggeration.
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See my post after yours.
For some reason, my computer isn’t letting me view the ad. But with that communist Livni in the ad...it serves them right to be rejected by their own kind.
Ironically, only in Israel have I seen Jews so hateful of traditional Jews that they made a point of eating a ham sandwich in our faces just to offend. I've not had anything near that experience with American Jews.
Envy is an ugly thing.
Well, they don't buy it for the pictures!
That it is hopeless to believe that they can be won over by logic and good sense?
True enough.
Though, the twisted radical feminists that read that nonsense might actually get off on the pictures. They like women who aren’t bound by patriarchal standards of beauty. :)
I’ll take the patriarchal standards, myself. But, to each his own ... if they like burly truck-driving lesbians, have at ‘em.
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Yes, thank you.
Frankly, most in Israel would prefer to not be associated with that magazine...if most of us even hear of it.
Sorry, “if any of us even hear of it”.
What’s the paid circulation? 5 dykes and one for the newstand in front of CNN?
An ad showing a picture of Muslim women, with “This is Iraq” written below it would be refused?
An ad showing a picture of Hillary, Nancy, and Barbara, with “This is America” written below it would be refused?
Sure they would./sarcasm
When Director of AJCongress' Commission for Women's Empowerment Harriet Kurlander tried to place the ad, she was told that publishing the ad "will set off a firestorm" and that "there are very strong opinions" on the subject -- the subject presumably being whether or not one can say anything positive about Israel.
So that’s where the former NOW leader went. I thought her last name was spelled “Schlemiel.”
But seriously, if I was Israeli, I wouldn’t have considered submitting an ad to “MS”, inasmuch as the feminist movement has been a front for the Democratic Party since the late 1970s.
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