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Iranian TV: Pentagon audio, video fake
MSNBC.Com ^ | updated 6:02 a.m. CT, Wed., Jan. 9, 2008 | AP via MSNBC.Com

Posted on 01/09/2008 7:10:16 AM PST by F15Eagle

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran on Wednesday called video and audio released by the Pentagon showing Iranian Revolutionary Guards boats confronting U.S. warships in the Strait of Hormuz "fabricated," a state-run television station reported.

"The footage released by the U.S. Navy was compiled using file pictures and the audio has been fabricated," the English-language channel Press TV quoted an official in the Revolutionary Guards as saying.

The report did not give the name of the Revolutionary Guard figure and did not offer more details about how the official knew the footage was "fabricated."

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and did not offer more details about how the official knew the footage was "fabricated."

A-ha!! Just like 9/11!! The Iranians have been getting the truth from Michael Rivero's site!! We're doomed!!! /s

Seriously, these boats were WAAAAYYY too close to the ships. Had they been rigged with explosives and swarmed one ship, they might not have got them all.
1 posted on 01/09/2008 7:10:17 AM PST by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle

If the video was fabricated, then surely they won’t complain if we blow the boats out of the water on our next fabricated video.


2 posted on 01/09/2008 7:13:24 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

LOL -— exactly!!!


3 posted on 01/09/2008 7:14:33 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: F15Eagle

We should have ensured that proper identification is possible by providing pieces of uniforms, boats, bodies etc.


4 posted on 01/09/2008 7:17:38 AM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: F15Eagle

The Commander of these ships had to have known Iran would claim it’s fake so he should have opened up on their asses and bring back little pieces of boat to prove it.


5 posted on 01/09/2008 7:17:41 AM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: F15Eagle

Isn’t that precious. We’ll just have to put some fake bombs up those fake boats’ *ss the next time. We’ll blow their fake *sses up and then pick up the fake parts and bury them with real pig fat.


6 posted on 01/09/2008 7:17:45 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Travis McGee

You beat me to the punch! :)

That’s along the lines of what I was thinking.

But - Had we shot, could you IMAGINE what MSNBC would be writing?!


7 posted on 01/09/2008 7:19:38 AM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: tobyhill

..............and bring back little pieces of boat to prove it.

Exactly my thoughts. If this happens again we are going to need proof.


8 posted on 01/09/2008 7:19:52 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE ("life is dangerous")
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To: Red6; tobyhill; Nachum; Travis McGee

Yep, open up on those “fake” boats next time they’re within 500 yards. 200 yards is way too close.


9 posted on 01/09/2008 7:21:21 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: F15Eagle

Shades of Baghdad Bob.


10 posted on 01/09/2008 7:22:43 AM PST by sarasota
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To: READINABLUESTATE

Exactly my thoughts. If this happens again we are going to need proof.

I was thinking the heads of the recoverable bodies strung up on the signal halyard of the force lead ship.

How do you tell if an Arab is lying......?


11 posted on 01/09/2008 7:23:15 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Either you are an American, or you are a liberal)
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To: READINABLUESTATE
I don’t think some of these bureaucrats realize that the Middle-East is controlled by rumor and if Iran says it’s doctored 90% there will believe them. Of course 90% of the MSM here believe them but they’re a lost cause.
12 posted on 01/09/2008 7:24:46 AM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Red6
But - Had we shot, could you IMAGINE what MSNBC would be writing?!

Pirates of the Allahbbean?
13 posted on 01/09/2008 7:25:01 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: F15Eagle
Forget the BS out of Iran that the video was a fabrication for a minute.

How incompetent is the Iranian Navy that this is their idea of identifying passing ships in international waters. Radar shows them from shore and a radio transmission identifies who they are. Failing that, US flags are flying all over these ships and an idiot with a set of “spectacles” from a 1/2 mile away can identify who they are.

It doesn’t take 20 minutes to identify the US Navy. Even if the antiquated scrap crap equipment of the Iranian Guard was not functioning, a nincompoop could have stayed farther away and shown less aggression to identify the ships.

Consequently, the Iranian boats looked to be evading expected fire in the video. The “fake” video get a good enough shot that you can certainly identify the boats.

It also doesn’t take a brain surgeon to watch the video and understand the intent of the fast boats. These people calling them fake must have been the folks on the boats.

14 posted on 01/09/2008 7:25:58 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Racism? There are more than a million people in the world that want me dead because I am American!)
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To: sarasota
Shades of Baghdad Bob.

He's a free agent now so he signed up to play for Ahmadnutjob. He's now a Teheran lyin'-man.
15 posted on 01/09/2008 7:27:42 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: F15Eagle
Can anyone familiar with Navy policy speculate on why warning shots weren't fired? Would the captain be in trouble if one of those boats attacked after being permitted to get so close?

I don't understand why the officers in charge let this situation develop and continue without responding with defensive fire.

16 posted on 01/09/2008 7:27:48 AM PST by Ford4000
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To: tobyhill

Don’t we do warning shots anymore?


17 posted on 01/09/2008 7:30:16 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Racism? There are more than a million people in the world that want me dead because I am American!)
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To: F15Eagle

Gotta say I miss him. A true source of comedy.


18 posted on 01/09/2008 7:31:19 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Ford4000

Because he didn’t want a call from President Obama in 2/09 telling him he was an evil war monger and needed to be replaced so the world liked us more.


19 posted on 01/09/2008 7:31:28 AM PST by HD1200
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To: Tenacious 1

It’s the kinder, gentler military. Firing a warning shot could cause hearing damage.


20 posted on 01/09/2008 7:32:28 AM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Tenacious 1

Yep. Their story about “identifying” them is pure baloney. You don’t have to do that at 600 feet. Even Iran owns a pair of binoculars.

IMHO, they wanted to see how close several boats could get to swarm a U.S. warship. After the USS Cole, two hits on one side or one each on opposite sides could sink the ship.

When they’re 600 feet out, at 60mph, if they can go that fast (they looked like they were moving pretty fast to me) they can cover 600 feet in less than 7 seconds.


21 posted on 01/09/2008 7:34:30 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: tobyhill
It’s the kinder, gentler military. Firing a warning shot could cause hearing damage.

...or cause our peaceful foes to soil themselves, thereby spreading disease and contributing to Man Made Global Warming.

Good point, I forgot about our Happy Happy Joy Joy Fun Loving Military image making efforts of late.

22 posted on 01/09/2008 7:35:55 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Racism? There are more than a million people in the world that want me dead because I am American!)
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To: Ford4000

Depends upon the ROE, I’d imagine. Hopefully, those have been modified since yesterday.


23 posted on 01/09/2008 7:36:05 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: F15Eagle

Two birds are down from a “midair” collision. All-the-while, Iranian small boats were harassing our surface combatants. Must we believe these are two separate incidents? This leaves me puzzled and skeptical.
Persian Gulf is has innumerable potential hostiles able and perhaps willing to down F/A/E birds.

Once down, aircrew and platforms are highly desirable items. Iranian’s would like to capture these and go into harms way to do it.

It seems to me like the headlines are well placed, fragmented and a superficial veneer disguising some hot stuff.


24 posted on 01/09/2008 7:37:14 AM PST by Broker (Grandpa Petti Bones wants to know.)
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To: sarasota
Shades of Baghdad Bob.

Which reminds me, What IS Dan Rather doing these days? < /Ha! >

25 posted on 01/09/2008 7:41:48 AM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy in 2008.)
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To: F15Eagle

I thought the sound of the Iranian guy’s voice was strange. Seemed like it was cut and pasted in. Who talks like that anyway?

I think the video itseld was real and not faked.


26 posted on 01/09/2008 7:43:33 AM PST by am452 (Globalist: Converting the American people to the Democrat party since 1992)
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To: am452

It may have come in on a radio frequency and been pasted into the video.


27 posted on 01/09/2008 7:48:05 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: Red6

MSNBC? Who cares? To quote TGO, “there are more people watching sonograms than there are watching MSNBC.”


28 posted on 01/09/2008 7:53:53 AM PST by sofaman (To be or not to be is not a question of compromise. Either you be or you don't be. - Golda Meir)
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To: F15Eagle

lets think this out.

Why would Iran DENY they did what they did?

Who is in charge over there if their military darings have to be denied?


29 posted on 01/09/2008 8:29:32 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Ford4000

The iranians probably want us to fire so that they can fire some Silkworms from the relatively nearby iranian shore batteries. They would say that we opened fire first on simple patrol boats.


30 posted on 01/09/2008 8:46:49 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Travis McGee

I like the way you think! And they won’t mind us sending the fabricated boat crews (if they survive the fabricated blowing up) to Gitmo, either.


31 posted on 01/09/2008 8:53:28 AM PST by Hoffer Rand
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To: F15Eagle

Exactly — especially if they were broadcasting threats to the formation as they approached and breached whatever “zone” the Navy has set up to prevent.

One would have to think that the Iranians WANTED to start something to get their people behind them instead of at their throats...

After this “provocation”, I would hope that an official notification is being made to ALL the Islamic Republics in the area that the ROE for events of this nature in the future will be “revised”...

I doubt this was the Iranian Navy -— I would bet these boats were manned by the religious zealots who “work” for the lunatic clerics....


32 posted on 01/09/2008 8:54:12 AM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Ford4000
The Captain is responsible for his crew and ship, I don’t know why any of the three Captains let any of those boats get so close. It was a boat just like those that attacked the USS Cole. All 5 boats should be on the bottom of the sea.
33 posted on 01/09/2008 9:01:41 AM PST by 2001convSVT ("People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Could there have been a “mid-air” collision between our aircraft and Iranian UAVs? Subsequent scramble/flail on at sea to retrieve the parts and pilots?


34 posted on 01/09/2008 9:14:57 AM PST by Broker (Grandpa Petti Bones wants to know.)
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To: longtermmemmory
It's a good question. They actually seem to be embarrassed by what happened, when most of us, myself included, thought it was the US that had cause to be embarrassed.

Very interesting. There's a good chance it was some rogue officer who decided to hot dog it. It's telling that the Iranians don't feel like they're in a strong enough position to rattle sabers just yet.

It could also be a sign of some factional fault lines in the Iranian command structure. Perhaps the prevailing faction wants to take their time, while the hawks and zealots are straining at the leash.
35 posted on 01/10/2008 7:31:55 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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