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Tooling and Production ^ | Jan 08 | Brian Sullivan

Posted on 01/06/2008 1:03:48 PM PST by null and void

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To: roamer_1
and the invention of an horrible system called JIT ("Just in Time") manufacturing, where the part was made when ordered.

JIT. Also know as: OSWO (Oh Swoe)- Oh S#!+, We're Out!

101 posted on 01/06/2008 5:41:28 PM PST by null and void (So many of us know so little about so much that effects the outcome of our lives.)
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To: null and void

If you mean lowering the corporate tax rates and reducing government regulations of industries, I completely agree with you.


102 posted on 01/06/2008 5:42:35 PM PST by scarface367 (The problem is we have yet to find a cure for stupid)
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To: null and void

Or maybe its that industries have realized that lowering the costs of storing inventory means that the cost of production goes down. Amazing concept, isn’t it?


103 posted on 01/06/2008 5:45:24 PM PST by scarface367 (The problem is we have yet to find a cure for stupid)
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To: scarface367
Wow, Marx would be proud.

You're saying that Marx thought that "the rich" earned their money?

All this time I thought he said that the rich were parasites and didn't add any value to the economy.

If you re-read my post you might see that I clearly said the rich got their money by?

(Hint: creating jobs, enabling productivity, and investing the the labor, enthusiasm, and abilities of others)

104 posted on 01/06/2008 5:48:04 PM PST by null and void (So many of us know so little about so much that effects the outcome of our lives.)
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To: roamer_1
There is no way that we can compete with that, and we should not have to.

What is the alternative? There isn't one.

105 posted on 01/06/2008 5:48:11 PM PST by groanup (Defend the income tax? Yes they do.)
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To: JasonC
Do plants here make obscene profits, just profits, or no profits?

I personally know of profitable plants (most profitable domestic plants for some companies) that were moved OFFSHORE because they could "make more money".

I'm not saying it was right or wrong, but it was sure a kick in the teeth to the workers that made those plants profitable.
106 posted on 01/06/2008 5:49:20 PM PST by BikerJoe
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To: scarface367
And, yeah, a little inflation is "better" than a little deflation. Especially if you are a borrower.

Maybe not quite so good if you are a lender or investor, though...

107 posted on 01/06/2008 5:50:32 PM PST by null and void (So many of us know so little about so much that effects the outcome of our lives.)
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To: null and void

No rather your claim that the rich earn the money on the labor of others. Though I admit I misread your last part so I apologize for that mistake.


108 posted on 01/06/2008 5:50:43 PM PST by scarface367 (The problem is we have yet to find a cure for stupid)
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To: scarface367

That is precisely what I mean.


109 posted on 01/06/2008 5:51:35 PM PST by null and void (So many of us know so little about so much that effects the outcome of our lives.)
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To: null and void

But as for the economy as a whole, deflation is devastating.


110 posted on 01/06/2008 5:51:59 PM PST by scarface367 (The problem is we have yet to find a cure for stupid)
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To: scarface367
Because government control of the economy works so well doesn’t it? Screw freedom of choice, the government will know what’s best.

What freedom of choice? Most products are just the same ol' crap re-boxed or re-branded. In the mean time, quality spirals ever downward, the lowest common denominator being the standard.

If not the government, which entity would you prefer?

111 posted on 01/06/2008 5:53:54 PM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: roamer_1
If not the government, which entity would you prefer?

The individual consumers.

112 posted on 01/06/2008 5:55:17 PM PST by scarface367 (The problem is we have yet to find a cure for stupid)
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To: null and void

bookmark


113 posted on 01/06/2008 5:55:29 PM PST by american colleen
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To: null and void
OSWO

LOL! You got it!

114 posted on 01/06/2008 5:55:43 PM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: scarface367
Or maybe its that industries have realized that lowering the costs of storing inventory means that the cost of production goes down. Amazing concept, isn’t it?

Indeed. And as long as it works it works pretty well.

The side effect is any disruption anywhere on the supply chain stops the whole chain. No one has any inventory to buffer for a Teamster strike, a fire at a chemical plant, or a snow storm.

JIT lacks any elasticity, as it is, by definition, always stretched right up to the breaking point.

115 posted on 01/06/2008 5:56:46 PM PST by null and void (So many of us know so little about so much that effects the outcome of our lives.)
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To: null and void

You are correct that JIT can lead to some short term disadvantages in the cases you mentioned. Yet overall, in the long run, the lower production costs greatly benefit consumers.


116 posted on 01/06/2008 5:59:46 PM PST by scarface367 (The problem is we have yet to find a cure for stupid)
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To: scarface367

No problem. I need to figure out a way of saying the same thing in a way that is easier to get the point I was trying to make.


117 posted on 01/06/2008 6:00:05 PM PST by null and void (So many of us know so little about so much that effects the outcome of our lives.)
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To: NavVet
"Yes, comrade we must take from the rich and redistribute the wealth. Then we will all be living in a worker’s paradise.

It’s never worked before, but let’s try it anyway.
"

That's exactly what so many US corporate import and merchant officers and investors have been doing overseas against our own Nation. They're helping to build up PLA military forces with technology--shops on Chinese soil and engineering education in the USA. I'm sure that the PLA really appreciates so much branch-specific military electronics, machining and operations expertise and can't help but wonder if the old traitors aren't advising the ChiComs to paint all of their machines gray, too.


118 posted on 01/06/2008 6:01:16 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been)
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To: scarface367
The individual consumers

Now how in the hell does joe six-pack know what's fair or not regarding corporate trade?

Do you think he is going to know whether the product was made in a sweatshop or not? Does he know the difference between a quality part and a piece of crap? NO, he doesn't.

You are advocating a system with no regulation whatsoever, as the consumer is clueless.

119 posted on 01/06/2008 6:03:38 PM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: roamer_1
Yeah. A few years back a fire at a chemical plant in Japan nearly shut down the world’s semiconductor industry.

Turns out that this facility was making something like 80% of the only epoxy resin approved (Opaque, easy to mold, capable of surviving heat, cold, humidity, and expansion matched for silicon, etc., etc., etc.) for packaging semiconductors.

Few companies had a safety stock...

120 posted on 01/06/2008 6:05:59 PM PST by null and void (So many of us know so little about so much that effects the outcome of our lives.)
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