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Man Shoots and Kills Burglary Suspect
WWW.WREG.COM Memphis ^ | 28 December, 2007 | Unknown

Posted on 12/29/2007 8:04:26 AM PST by marktwain

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To: Pontiac

“I am really curious as to how that burglar got shot. Intelligent burglars do not carry weapons.”

“They never do. (Think that is)”

These two comments seem to be contradictory.

I suspect that both are blanket statements subject to numerous exceptions.


41 posted on 12/29/2007 11:01:38 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
“I am really curious as to how that burglar got shot. Intelligent burglars do not carry weapons.”

He didn't duck fast enuff.

Shoot him first, put a butcher knife in his hand, call 911.

No fuss, no muss, no mas.

42 posted on 12/29/2007 11:29:40 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: marktwain
Well the Intelligent burglars are a relatively small subset of the group comprising all burglars.

Thinking individuals are a relatively small subset of the group comprising all individuals.

Therefore that makes Intelligent thinking burglars a very small subset of the group comprising Intelligent thinking individuals.

;)

43 posted on 12/29/2007 11:30:06 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: marktwain

We watch “The First 48 Hours”, a crime TV show featuring murder investigations. The shows seems to have a *lot* of material from Memphis. The show also makes it plain that many of the minority residents want nothing to do with the local PD - it seems they would prefer to take care of business by themselves.

FWIW - These apts are about a mile and half off the end of the runway in ‘scenic’ East Memphis. Listed as “Luxury” apratments, I did find it *odd* that the units did not show in any of the apt finder services or as other rental units. I wonder if these are ‘managed’ as low-income units?

One final thought - maybe the lady called her friend vs the local PD as there was something in the unit she did not want the cops to see - like say, drugs or such.

I’m sure many would find Memphis a fine place to live, I’ll pass.


44 posted on 12/29/2007 11:41:01 AM PST by ASOC (The Captain doesn't choose the storm....)
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To: USS Alaska
“Shoot him first, put a butcher knife in his hand, call 911.”

You have received bad advice. While forensic science is not up to what you see on CSI, it can detect scenarios such as you propose, and could do so 20 years ago. Simple blood drop analysis, with florescent light blood detection, can easily do this, with blood spots smaller than those available to the naked eye. If you are justified, the physical evidence will be consistent with your story. Don’t destroy the physical evidence. Preserve it.

45 posted on 12/29/2007 11:42:19 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Let's hope the tort bar agrees with that decision as well. She called her boyfriend but did she also call the cops? That will be the argument raised although I hope it is deemed to be without merit. "Don't do the crime ..." and all that.

However, it takes more than range time to be ready to sweep a house or apartment. I'd say the boyfriend is lucky to still be around. It may be a justified shoot but was it a smart shoot?

46 posted on 12/29/2007 11:53:06 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: marktwain

About two weeks ago, a friend of mine woke up to the sound of someone in his living room about 10pm. Then some guy poked his head into the bedroom. My fried yelled at him and then the guy sprinted out the back door. My friend was renting the place in a nice neighborhood with his 3 young sons after a nasty divorce. He didn’t have a gun. (He now has a 357 magnum.) My friend told the detective that if he had a gun that he would have shot him when he poked his head in. The detective replied “I would have. Just don’t chase him outside and shoot him in the back.” Sounds good to me.

Also, Toney Armstrong, the detective in the posted story, can sometimes be found on The First 48 on A&E when they are in Memphis. A true reality show if there ever was one.

http://www.aetv.com/the_first_48/first48_castcrew11.jsp?index=1&type=actor


47 posted on 12/29/2007 12:41:40 PM PST by cpanter
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To: marktwain

A box of ammo to this fine shooter!


48 posted on 12/29/2007 1:46:33 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Pontiac

Screw that. A dead criminal is better than a live one. Once again I must reiterate...... YOU CAN “WHAT IF” ANYTHING TO DEATH!! Holy cr*p, cut the sh*t!! Point is, bf came and shot the emmer effer dead, one less for us to worry about. What is your problem w/ this??


49 posted on 12/29/2007 3:59:38 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Thompson/Hunter 08)
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To: Pontiac

Well freak KKKalifornica nad Taxachuttes, that’s NOT where it happened. Perhaps when other states allow their people to DEFEND themselves, others will follow. And if not, then we will ALL move to the states where we can!


50 posted on 12/29/2007 4:02:44 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Thompson/Hunter 08)
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To: Hoof Hearted
Two days before Christmas, my neighbor's business was robbed at 3AM. The alarm went off immediately upon break-in, but the police didn't get there for 45 minutes. Of course the suspects were gone along with much of the store's inventory and a 600lb safe.

Police have no interest in possibly getting into a shootout with somebody. They get calls like this every day. If you put yourself at risk every day, it makes it less likely that you will get to the end of your 20 years and get your civil service pension

So the police make sure they get there 45 minutes later, and make sure they have the siren going so that the bad guys have time to hear them coming and leave

51 posted on 12/29/2007 4:14:32 PM PST by PapaBear3625
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To: PapaBear3625

That is why it is up to us to shoot the fu*****!


52 posted on 12/29/2007 4:18:07 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Thompson/Hunter 08)
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To: USS Alaska; marktwain
When dealing with an intruder in your house, hesitating long enough to make a close examination of his hands and waistband is likely to get you killed. Particularly in dim light.

Once you identify that this is not somebody you invited to be there, any quick movement of his hands would invite a few bullets

53 posted on 12/29/2007 4:36:57 PM PST by PapaBear3625
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To: panthermom

“One time I was going to the laundry mat and the basket must have prevented my door from closing. When I arrived home the door was ajar, I went straight to my brothers to check out the apartment, it never occurred to me to call the police.”

I came home one day to find a basement window opened. It was too small for a man to have gotten into and the dogs were in the house while I was gone. When I opened the back door and the dogs were fine, I called a neighbor to help me make sure no critters had gotten inside.


54 posted on 12/29/2007 9:00:42 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: Hiddigeigei
If the burgler comes into your bedroom, be prepared to let him have it.

Most armed Freepers are prepared to do just that. It's called gun control.

56 posted on 12/31/2007 7:30:26 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: marktwain

Rhonda, who didn’t want to give us her last name or show her face on camera, says crime at the Camelot Apartments has driven her to leave.

Ironic. I read an article earlier today about Iraq and the article noted that the fact that the people being interviewed didn’t want to give their last name was a sign of the precarious security situation.


57 posted on 12/31/2007 7:34:39 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: PapaBear3625

Unfortunately for us, I used to live your scenario over and over when creeps busted into my electronics sales and service business. Insurance was out of the question because of so many break ins. The cops would meet me there at 3am when I arrived with a pillow, blanket and an apple for breakfast. I slept on the floor until I could call the glass guy in the morning.

Usually the cops were joking with each other about totally irrelevant things while I filled out paperwork. IMHO, they were about as useless as the crooks.


58 posted on 12/31/2007 7:52:24 PM PST by Senormechanico
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