The 'honorable' Billy Jeff
Posted on 12/25/2007 5:15:22 PM PST by Libloather
Jefferson's help had a price, feds say
Pair expected to testify on incinerator firm Monday,
December 24, 2007
By Bruce Alpert
WASHINGTON -- He is a former aide to the late Sen. Russell Long, D-La., who became an energy lobbyist. She is a Florida businesswoman who has invested in a number of struggling businesses with potential for big profits.
What James Creaghan and Noreen Wilson have in common, according to the Justice Department, is a reliance on U.S. Rep. William Jefferson, D-New Orleans, to help win contracts in western Africa. The government says that in return for that help, the congressman asked for compensation to a family member or companies controlled by his family.
In the department's June 4 indictment of Jefferson and a subsequent filing last month, the government alleges 13 bribery schemes by the nine-term congressman. Five of them are connected to either Creaghan or Wilson, or the two of them together.
They are listed by the Justice Department as unindicted co-conspirators and have testified before the Virginia grand jury that indicted Jefferson. Both are expected to be witnesses in Jefferson 's trial, now slated for Feb. 25.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Rebecca Bellows said last week that Creaghan's cooperation "opened up the floodgates" to the breadth of business ventures connected to Jefferson. The FBI didn't even know anything about Creaghan until Jefferson mentioned him during an interview with agents during the August 2005 search of the congressman's New Orleans house, according to FBI Agent Tim Thibault.
"Creaghan was the only person the congressman named during two hours that I didn't know," Thibault testified last week during a pre-trial hearing before Virginia Federal District Court Judge T.S. Ellis III.
(Excerpt) Read more at nola.com ...
Jefferson is indicted on bribery charges and Congress hasn't held a single hearing on him nor has his party penalized him. Politicians are spineless these days. I doubt Washington would have crossed the Deleware with his poorly provisioned teen age troups if he knew what the government would ultimately become.
Deleware = Delaware
In a PC insane nation — a criminal politician is innocent until he declares himself guilty..........especially if it’s a black politician....
Slavery did far more damage to the Republic than it did to those millions brought over here...
Add in the fact he is a black Democrat, he'll enjoy a long and prosperous career :^(
“Slavery did far more damage to the Republic than it did to those millions brought over here...”
Does this include those who died on the crossing?
200,000,000 are said to have died enroute.
So many died on the crossing that sharks still swim the waters where the ships once sailed looking for more bodies to be thrown overboard.
If he was a Republican he would have been run outta town years ago!
He is a Democrat. If he were a Rep, he would have resigned or been thrown in jail. Not a peep from Congress, the WH, or the MSM.
Hopefully some of the witnesses at his trial will be the Coast Guard men who boated Jefferson to his flooded NOLA house; waited for him to remove his records from his home; brought him back to his car with boxes of records; and let him drive away.
?I wonder if the $80k in office cold cash had warmed up in his non-working NOLA freezer???
‘So many died on the crossing that sharks still swim the waters where the ships once sailed looking for more bodies to be thrown overboard.’
I don’t want to detract from the seriousness of this issue, but damn, man, those are some really old sharks with very long memories.
This is also the origin of the term, "race baiting."
I know the number is crazy.
I got it from one of Rush’s TV shows, remember way back when? He showed some black Congressman speaking, and getting those ‘facts’ into the Congressional Record.
Hard to forget something so outrageous, and fun to play with.
After all who are we to question a BLACK Congressman on the subject of slavery?
That’s funny, I don’t care who you are.
The original comment was on slavery and the Republic. There were 9-12 million slaves shipped to the Americas but only around 600,000 to what is now the United States.
http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/000129.html
“200,000,000 are said to have died enroute. So many died on the crossing that sharks still swim the waters where the ships once sailed looking for more bodies to be thrown overboard.”
Both urban legends. Neither true.
You're a Rush fan from way back.....I have that video from his TV show.
“200,000,000 are said to have died enroute.”
Is this a workable number? It seems awfully high, even assuming boat holds filled to the gills with slaves and 100% mortality rates.
I am not sure 200,000,000 people have moved by transatlantic boat voyage ever, or at any rate before the 2nd world war, at least in the passenger category.
There may have been 20,000,000 on all sides involved in WWII. What is a 0 between gullible friends?
“There may have been 20,000,000 on all sides involved in WWII. What is a 0 between gullible friends?”
LOL I had seriously considered writing ‘ever’ instead of before WWII, then decided to err on the side of caution....
“I got it from one of Rush’s TV shows, remember way back when? He showed some black Congressman speaking, and getting those ‘facts’ into the Congressional Record.”
Ah, that would be the great now retired congressman from the 11th Congressional district of New York, one Major Owens.
An Amos sans Andy: he was hillarious to watch on the floor.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Major_Owens
New math, right?
The population of Africa in whole was in the 100,000,000 range during the 1700s and didn’t reach the 200,000,000 million range until sometime in the middle of the twentieth century. This make the numbers unworkable unless the birth rate on board the slave ships soared to some grotesquely absurd levels.
On the other hand, you weren’t supposed to question the number, you were only meant to feel guilty.
Million man math.
I had this very conversation with a young lady. She had brought this tripe up during a conversation. I simply asked her a few questions, such as how people run a business today. Then I extended the questioning to how was it different 200-300 years ago. I explained the financing of trade ships bound for the new world and how speculators would invest in such trip. Then we discussed the concept of maximizing ROI.
At the end I simply asked, why would they do that? Does it make sense to you? I agreed that This may certainly have been routine for dead bodies or those beyond saving. Cruel and inhumane is certainly hand in hand with the slave trade.
However dumping a viable source of income and reducing the potential ROI for such a horrid trip isn't going to happen. The captain would be held responsible for the results and wouldn't be able to get another job if his reputation got damaged in such a way.
Slavery was a monstrous activity. I only wish those who berate the United States for it's activities related to such 150 years ago would take so much interests in today's slave trade in Africa, Asia and the ME.
“Gort! Klatu Barada Necto”...
Gort could be rather useful, in a surgical application don’t you think???
See posts 15 & 18.
Who are you to question a black congessman on how many slaves have died at sea?
How unseemly of you!
Sarcasm off.
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