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Photo puts Romney at pro-choice event
Boston Herald ^ | Dec. 18, 2007 | By Dave Wedge

Posted on 12/18/2007 12:31:36 PM PST by jdm

A photograph of GOP presidential contender Mitt Romney at a 1994 Planned Parenthood fundraiser has surfaced, once again raising questions about the former Bay State’s governor’s abortion flip-flopping.

The picture, a copy of which was obtained by the Herald, shows Romney and his wife Ann at a house party fundraiser in Cohasset with Nicki Nichols Gamble, who was the president of the Planned Parenthood League of Massachusetts at the time. Romney has already downplayed ties to Planned Parenthood after revelations that Ann Romney donated $150 to the group.

Gamble said the pic was snapped at an event at GOP activist Eleanor Bleakie’s house and that she “clearly” remembered speaking with Romney at the event. At the time, Romney was running as a pro-choice Republican against U.S. Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.).

“My recollection is that we talked about his senate candidacy and the fact that he was supporting Roe v. Wade and a choice agenda at the time,” Gamble told the Herald. “It was a Planned Parenthood event. We were there to discuss our programs and our advocacy.”

The event was held the same day Ann Romney wrote a check to the pro-choice group. Romney has previously said he had “no recollection” of his wife writing the check to Planned Parenthood.

Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom called the flap “a dog bites man story.”

“Governor Romney used to have a different position on abortion,” Fehrnstrom said. “He is now firmly pro-life and has made it clear that as President he will advocate for a culture that welcomes life and protects the sanctity of life. This is the same path that Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush followed.”

Because of his abortion shift, Romney has been branded a flip-flopper by his GOP primary opponents, as well Democrats. Romney has stated he became pro-life in 2004 during the stem cell debate in Massachusetts.

Beyond attending the event, Romney filled out a 2002 questionaire for the Planned Parenthood Advocacy Fund in which he said he supported Roe v. Wade, sex education in schools and increased access to emergency contraception.

“With Mitt Romney, this has been more than a flip-flop. This has been an extreme makeover,” said Planned Parenthood spokesman Angus McQuilken. “What voters need to know about Mitt Romney is this: where he stands on any issue is always a moving target.”


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Mitt Romney at a fund-raising event hosted by the president of Planned Parenthood
League of Massachusetts Nicki Nichols Gamble (back to camera), in 1994 in Cohasset.

1 posted on 12/18/2007 12:31:41 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

I’m not a Mitt supporter, but if he says that his position has changed, and that he is pro-life now, what his position was in ‘94 becomes a moot point.

Mitt’s detractors sound like they’re getting desperate.


2 posted on 12/18/2007 12:37:02 PM PST by mkjessup (Hunter-Bolton '08 !! Patriots who will settle for nothing less than *Victory* in the War on Terror!)
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To: jdm

A “picture is worth a thousand words.”


3 posted on 12/18/2007 12:38:58 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: mkjessup

If you read the entire article you’ll see that he was pro-choice up until at least 2002, perhaps even ‘04.


4 posted on 12/18/2007 12:39:24 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

He needed to say one thing to get elected in Massachusetts, and another to get elected nationally.

That seems like the simplest explanation to me.

Maybe he actually would be pro-life in office, because that is the more expedient position at the national level. But I’m afraid he might just try to dodge the issue.


5 posted on 12/18/2007 12:44:44 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: jdm
If you read the entire article you’ll see that he was pro-choice up until at least 2002, perhaps even ‘04.

I was pro-choice until I came to know Jesus Christ as my personal savior. Did Romney get saved somewhere between '02 and '04? Has he stated his reason for changing position?
6 posted on 12/18/2007 12:45:26 PM PST by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: jdm
If you read the entire article you’ll see that he was pro-choice up until at least 2002, perhaps even ‘04.

I was pro-choice until I came to know Jesus Christ as my personal savior. Did Romney get saved somewhere between '02 and '04? Has he stated his reason for changing position?
7 posted on 12/18/2007 12:45:30 PM PST by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: jdm

I did read the entire Mitt-bashing screed, and whether it was ‘94, ‘02 or ‘04, he has clearly stated that his position is pro-life now.

This is insane, I’m not even a supporter of Mitt but here I am defending him against one more piece of ‘gotcha’ journalism posted by someone with an obvious agenda.


8 posted on 12/18/2007 12:46:20 PM PST by mkjessup (Hunter-Bolton '08 !! Patriots who will settle for nothing less than *Victory* in the War on Terror!)
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To: mkjessup

I guess it’s a question of honestly changing your view vs. saying what needs to be said to get elected.

Each of us will have to decide on our own which one a candidate fits. George H.W. Bush was pro-abortion before teaming with Reagan.


9 posted on 12/18/2007 12:46:23 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: mkjessup
I’m not a Mitt supporter, but if he says that his position has changed, and that he is pro-life now, what his position was in ‘94 becomes a moot point.

Good grief, Romney has flip-flopped on virtually every issue. He ran as liberal, governed as a liberal and, within in six short years, now is trying to portray himself as a conservative.

Anyone buying that is fool. Flip is no different than Bill Clinton and would betray conservatives whenever necessary if he got into office because Romney cares only about what is best for him.

10 posted on 12/18/2007 12:46:53 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Sopater
Has he stated his reason for changing position?

He figured that conservatives in "flyover country" were all stupid and would believe him.

11 posted on 12/18/2007 12:47:27 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: jdm

I’m pretty sure I was pro-choice until late ‘93 or early ‘94. People change. Romney’s changes just appear more convenient than most.


12 posted on 12/18/2007 12:47:34 PM PST by Gil4 ("There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism" - Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: jdm

I’m just curious...is it really possible for a president to change our abortion laws and thinking, in one term?


13 posted on 12/18/2007 12:48:06 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr
I’m just curious...is it really possible for a president to change our abortion laws and thinking, in one term?

Yes.

14 posted on 12/18/2007 12:48:57 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: jdm
If you read the entire article you’ll see that he was pro-choice up until at least 2002, perhaps even ‘04.

That's not accurate:

In March, 2005, Romney signed an annual proclamation establishing a ''Right to Privacy Day" to mark the anniversary of Baird v. Eisenstadt, a 1972 Supreme Court ruling legalizing birth control for unmarried people. Interestingly, Romney's staff deleted references to Roe v. Wade from the previous year's proclamation. - Boston Globe, 3/25/2005

Romney converted to the pro-life position and conservatism when he decided to run for President.

15 posted on 12/18/2007 12:49:45 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: jdm
I don’t doubt the picture, but that could have been taken at a pancake eating contest in Quahog for all I know.
16 posted on 12/18/2007 12:50:54 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: jdm

Was this before or after Fred tried to ditch the GOP platform?


17 posted on 12/18/2007 12:51:48 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: wagglebee

How? Why hasn’t it happened by now, we’ve had pro-life presidents?


18 posted on 12/18/2007 12:52:02 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Cicero

So lying to get into office is ok....


19 posted on 12/18/2007 12:53:58 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: Gil4
I’m pretty sure I was pro-choice until late ‘93 or early ‘94. People change. Romney’s changes just appear more convenient than most.

Try 2005.

20 posted on 12/18/2007 12:54:17 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal superfecta: huckabee, romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: pissant

During I think...


21 posted on 12/18/2007 12:55:11 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: Ol' Sparky

He did not govern as a Liberal, Club for Growth and Heritage foundation ranked him quite him. Quit peddling lies in this forum, Romney is a fiscal conservative rated favourably by the Heritage foundation.


22 posted on 12/18/2007 12:55:28 PM PST by GregH
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To: mkjessup
I’m not a Mitt supporter, but if he says that his position has changed, and that he is pro-life now, what his position was in ‘94 becomes a moot point.

The problem I'm seeing, is not only this, but his prior support of the Brady bill and the assault weapons ban. Can't vote for anyone who supported that.
23 posted on 12/18/2007 12:55:35 PM PST by jrg
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To: ejonesie22

Politicians telling lies!!! Impossible


24 posted on 12/18/2007 12:55:49 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr

I know, shocking ain’t it...


25 posted on 12/18/2007 12:56:34 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: Ol' Sparky

26 posted on 12/18/2007 12:56:41 PM PST by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: mkjessup
I’m not a Mitt supporter, but if he says that his position has changed, and that he is pro-life now, what his position was in ‘94 becomes a moot point. Mitt’s detractors sound like they’re getting desperate.

No, it is just one more instance of a Northeastern liberal moving to the right in the primary to fool voters then in the general election moving back to the left.

Not a moot point, been done so many times in the past that it is now so scrutinized that nobody trust them when they say they have changed their positions and had a come to Jesus moment, because it never last....they lie.

No desperation, just no believability!

27 posted on 12/18/2007 12:59:14 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Cicero
He needed to say one thing to get elected in Massachusetts, and another to get elected nationally.

That's pretty much what I said on the thread that was locked.

That seems like the simplest explanation to me.

Yep.

28 posted on 12/18/2007 12:59:34 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: Cicero; jdm
Maybe he actually would be pro-life in office,

What actions exactly does that require to "BE" pro-life in office?

Answer: None.

President can't do anything but sit there and preside over legal abortions until it's overturned.

And even then. The day Roe is overturned, there will still be abortions legal in Mass and California and New York, etc, etc.

Was Reagan Pro-life? While thousands of abortions were performed legally during his exectutive branch tenure. Is Bush Pro-Life?

Will everyone be happy if a "Pro-Life" prez is elected and Roe is not overturned, or a const amend isn't passed? Because a pro-life/pro-death pres doesn't preclude or control either of those things.

29 posted on 12/18/2007 1:00:13 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: GregH
He did not govern as a Liberal, Club for Growth and Heritage foundation ranked him quite him.

You're misinformed or lying:

"His first budget, presented under a cloud of a $2 billion deficit, balanced the budget with some spending cuts, but a $500 million increase in various fees was the largest component of the budget fix." Cato Institute annual Fiscal Policy Report Card - America's Governors, 2004. Romney was rated a "C" overall by Cato.

Conservatives don't push for socialized health care:

Republican Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney is trying to accomplish in his final year in office what Democrats can only dream of these days: boosting government spending on and regulation of health care and requiring individuals to purchase government-designed policies. Romney's plan, which is backed by such liberals as Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, Mass.), is being pitched as a compact between citizens and the state. - National Review Online, 1/26/2006

30 posted on 12/18/2007 1:00:21 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: mkjessup
Mitt has been lying about the check right up through today.

Why was Mitt lying about his and his wife's funding of Planned Parenthood?

Isn't that a pretty stupid thing to lie about?

Oh well, he got caught again. Bet his supporters will find a new way to rationalize his lies.

31 posted on 12/18/2007 1:00:47 PM PST by JohnnyZ (victim victim Mitt victim victim Romneyvictim victim victim so persecuted, poor me!)
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To: jdm

I agree he flip-flopped on abortion simply for political reasons. But to be fair..there is no way he would have been elected to Governor of MA with any kind of pro-life position.
Despite his recent change in position..I seriously believe Romney would appoint better judges to the courts than Rudy or McCain, which is the crucial issue pro-lifers need to be concerned about at the presidential level. Had a conservative been named to the court instead of either Souter, O’Connor or Kennedy, Roe v. Wade would have been overturned during the Casey decision.


32 posted on 12/18/2007 1:01:16 PM PST by Fast Ed97
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To: jdm
The thing that bothers me about all this is....

WHat's to keep him from another "moment of consciousness" over the promises being made during this campaign? "I was for closing the border, but when it came to me to do that, I just couldn't and realized how wrong I have been."

Spit. That's part of the reason I was calling him the Republican John Kerry...
33 posted on 12/18/2007 1:01:45 PM PST by Khepri (Sure, we want to go home. The shortest way home is through Damascus and Tehran.)
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To: stuartcr

We are one supreme court justice away from having the votes to overturn Roe v. Wade. John Paul Stevens will be 88 years old in April and he has had some health problems, it is almost a certainty that he will die or retire before 2012.


34 posted on 12/18/2007 1:01:49 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: mkjessup
I’m not a Mitt supporter, but if he says that his position has changed, and that he is pro-life now, what his position was in ‘94 becomes a moot point.
I agree. This is some really stupid stuff here. The guy said he previously had that opinion and now here comes the Moron Squad to prove to the world that he previously had that opinion.

It's the kind of stupidity that makes us all look bad.

35 posted on 12/18/2007 1:02:15 PM PST by samtheman (Huckabee: Praise the Lord, Raise the Taxes, and Open the Borders.)
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To: GregH
Romney is a fiscal conservative rated favourably by the Heritage foundation.

Fiscal conservatives don't support government funding of abortion, as Romney did.

36 posted on 12/18/2007 1:02:31 PM PST by JohnnyZ (victim victim Mitt victim victim Romneyvictim victim victim so persecuted, poor me!)
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To: wagglebee

You honestly think it will be overturned if a pro-life candidate gets elected?


37 posted on 12/18/2007 1:02:53 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

A similar of yours has already been addressed in another thread, you are spamming and lying.

CATO is a Libertarian institution, their endorsement counts for little.

Heritage Foundation and Club for Growth are conservative organisations and they rank Romney quite favourably on his fiscal policies.


38 posted on 12/18/2007 1:03:46 PM PST by GregH
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To: jdm
$150 from Mitt is almost like a statement of opposition.

Almost.

39 posted on 12/18/2007 1:04:25 PM PST by Defiant (Huckabee puts the goober back in gubernatorial.)
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To: stuartcr

I absolutely think that with a fifth pro-life vote on the Supreme Court and the right case that Roe v. Wade will be overturned.


40 posted on 12/18/2007 1:04:51 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: JohnnyZ

You mean that Romney did nothing to halt a program which already was there even before he was governor.


41 posted on 12/18/2007 1:05:20 PM PST by GregH
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To: GregH
I'll do that when you stop spamming and lying about this RINO. You're a Mitt Wit Kool-Aid drinker.

The facts aren't going about this fraud.

Maybe you could tell us, though, how Willard ended up on the top 10 RINO list of Human Events magazine just two short years ago:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=11129

Top 10 RINOs (Republicans in Name Only)

8. Gov. Mitt Romney (Mass.) Has said, “I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country.” Supports civil unions and stringent gun laws. After visiting Houston, he criticized the city’s aesthetics, saying, “This is what happens when you don’t have zoning.”

42 posted on 12/18/2007 1:08:00 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: jdm

Mitt is a flip-flopper. His answer on why he changed positions relates to stem cell research and cloning.

Worse than being a flip-flopper, he claims not to be a flip-flopper. His meet the press interview was full of questions about flip-flopping, and I don’t think he gave good answers and in fact filibustered.

Here are a bunch of negative quotes about Romney from nationalreview. They endorsed him, but have said a bunch of negative things about him. It’s ridiculous that they endorse him given these comments: http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?p=35

Here are 2, the rest are at the website:

Jonah Goldberg:

I’m sorry but Romney still comes across like a well-cast actor in a movie of the week about a guy running for president.

Peter Robinson:

Romney’s Catastrophic Answer: “I’ve always been personally pro-life.” That sure isn’t what he tried to convey in his debate with Ted Kennedy, citing his mother’s pro-choice activities and the death of a family friend as the result of a botched abortion. Courtesy of YouTube, hundreds of thousands have now seen that debate with Kennedy, watching with their own eyes as Romney asserted a personally pro-choice position. But he still can’t admit it? A highly intelligent, immensely accomplished, and hugely likeable candidate. But this? Appalling.


43 posted on 12/18/2007 1:08:32 PM PST by KeithCu
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To: sam_paine

***Because a pro-life/pro-death pres doesn’t preclude or control either of those things.***

Doesn’t the president have a tiny part in the nomination of SCOTUS?


44 posted on 12/18/2007 1:11:09 PM PST by Lord_Calvinus
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To: jdm

He’s dead Jim.


45 posted on 12/18/2007 1:11:24 PM PST by gpapa
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To: Lord_Calvinus
***Because a pro-life/pro-death pres doesn’t preclude or control either of those things.*** Doesn’t the president have a tiny part in the nomination of SCOTUS?

Sandra Day O'Connor.

46 posted on 12/18/2007 1:12:07 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Fast Ed97; jdm
I agree he flip-flopped on abortion simply for political reasons. But to be fair..there is no way he would have been elected to Governor of MA with any kind of pro-life position

(Yeah, that's what we want in a nominee...a candidate with great Gumby flexibility)

47 posted on 12/18/2007 1:12:20 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: sam_paine

Nonsense.

The first day clinton got into office, he reversed Reagan’s Mexico City policy and renewed American tax support for the UN baby killers, including forced abortions in China.

Clinton also repeatedly vetoed the partial birth abortion bill.

Bush, in contrast, has regularly vetoed taxpayer funding for fetal stem cell research, a bogus medical procedure whose only purpose is to make baby killing seem more attractive.

Clinton appointed Ruth Bader Ginsburg to the Supreme Court.

Bush appointed Roberts and Alito.

No, the president can’t put an immediate end to abortion, but he is in a very influential position to increase or restrain it.

Giuliani, despite his empty talk about strict constructionists, would never appoint a pro-life justice to the court. And Romney’s record is dicey. What would he do if there was serious resistance to another conservative justice in the Senate? Back down, probably, and blame it on the Democrats, exactly as he did while governor of Massachusetts.


48 posted on 12/18/2007 1:13:17 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Posting same thing thread after thread is Spamming and you do that quite well. You are a fraud for doing so.

Heritage Foundation and Club for Growth are conservative organisations, CATO is not. If you think Libertarian positions are important then i suggest that you get on the Ron-Paul train and support his candidacy.

Stop pasting cut and paste links and try to do some logical thinking if it is possible for you to do so. There is NO evidence that Mitt is a fiscal liberal , he is a solid fiscal conservative by cutting taxes, govt programs,stimulating growth and raising fees to balance the budget.


49 posted on 12/18/2007 1:14:01 PM PST by GregH
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To: GregH
You mean that Romney did nothing to halt a program which already was there even before he was governor

No, I mean Mitt came out and said he actively supported government funding of abortion when he was seeking endorsements from pro-abortion groups.

What kind of fiscal conservative says hey, we've got high taxes and a budget deficit, but the government really needs to pay for abortions!

50 posted on 12/18/2007 1:16:05 PM PST by JohnnyZ (victim victim Mitt victim victim Romneyvictim victim victim so persecuted, poor me!)
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