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Knife At Lunch Gets 10-Year-Old Girl Arrested At School
WFTV.COM ^ | 12/14/07 | WFTV.COM

Posted on 12/17/2007 12:36:23 PM PST by DFG

OCALA, Fla. -- A 10-year old Ocala girl brought her lunch to school and a small kitchen knife to cut it. She now faces a felony charge after being arrested. The school and the sheriff's office disagree on the reason for the arrest.

School officials say the 5th grader was brown-bagging it. She brought a piece of steak for her lunch, but she also brought a steak knife. That's when deputies were called.

It happened in the cafeteria at Sunrise Elementary School. The 10-year-old used the knife to cut the meat.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: discipline; florida; pc; threadnumber3; zerotolerance
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Zero-tolerance run amok.
1 posted on 12/17/2007 12:36:24 PM PST by DFG
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To: DFG

Good grief!


2 posted on 12/17/2007 12:37:54 PM PST by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: DFG
She brought a piece of steak for her lunch

What the hell. What happened to PB&J for kids sack lunch.

Oh yea and Zero-tolerance does more harm then good.

3 posted on 12/17/2007 12:39:09 PM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: DFG

Are there kitchen utensils of any kind on the school property?


4 posted on 12/17/2007 12:39:31 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: DFG

Whew. That was a close call. Good thing the authorities were able to deflect this mass-murderess’s plot.

TC


5 posted on 12/17/2007 12:39:56 PM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: DFG

At first glance, I thought the TV station was WTFV which would’ve been oddly fitting. At least she wasn’t drug running, like passing out aspirin or something. I bet those charges would be worse.


6 posted on 12/17/2007 12:39:57 PM PST by faloi
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To: DFG

Thus what happens when Teachers are not allowed to use common sense.


7 posted on 12/17/2007 12:40:15 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: DFG

Sheriff’s just blindly enforce any law...what happened to unjust laws and the duty of LEO to use their brain?


8 posted on 12/17/2007 12:40:24 PM PST by George from New England
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To: massgopguy
Are there kitchen utensils of any kind on the school property?

Shhhh, don't mention that! They'll have to give the kids nothing but vitamin-fortified gruel!

9 posted on 12/17/2007 12:40:49 PM PST by Tax-chick (Every committee wants to take over the world.)
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To: DFG
"Anytime there's a weapon on campus, yes, we have to report it and we aggressively report it because we don't want to take any chances, regardless," Christian said.

It was no more a weapon then a baseball bat used by a baseball team to play baseball.

Both can be pretty deadly if used as a weapon, but if not used that way, they are not in fact weapons.

10 posted on 12/17/2007 12:41:25 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: DFG

RUN AWAY!!!


11 posted on 12/17/2007 12:41:32 PM PST by TexGuy
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To: DFG

steak? not fair, my mom never sent me with anything but PB&J.


12 posted on 12/17/2007 12:41:51 PM PST by absolootezer0 (white male christian hetero married gun toting SUV driving motorcycle riding conservative smoker)
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To: Domandred

“What happened to PB&J for kids sack lunch.”

Threat of lawsuits from some students with peanut allergies has banned peanut products from some schools.

That said, What’s wrong with bringing a piece of leftover steak to school for lunch?


13 posted on 12/17/2007 12:42:06 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: DFG

Old story:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1939699/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1939701/posts


14 posted on 12/17/2007 12:42:36 PM PST by donna (Obama on cocaine: "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it.")
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To: Tax-chick

How many knives do you have in your school?


15 posted on 12/17/2007 12:42:42 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: DFG

This is why public schools should not exist. They hire fools to run them.


16 posted on 12/17/2007 12:42:55 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: George from New England

I used to think that a good way to bring about the repeal of stupid laws would be to strictly enforce them to create a backlash. Having seen where zero-tolerance is going, I gave up on the notion.


17 posted on 12/17/2007 12:43:09 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Dozens, and that doesn’t count the ones for knife-throwing class.


18 posted on 12/17/2007 12:43:26 PM PST by Tax-chick (Every committee wants to take over the world.)
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To: faloi
I thought the TV station was WTFV which would’ve been oddly fitting.

K-WHAT? Unbuilt Maui TV station lands questionable call letters

FR flashback

19 posted on 12/17/2007 12:44:14 PM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: Domandred

What happened to PB&J for kids sack lunch.

Peanut butter is probably banned due to a student years prior with a food allergy.


20 posted on 12/17/2007 12:44:16 PM PST by READINABLUESTATE ("life is dangerous")
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To: DFG

The Orlando Sentinel version of this story says that the girl cried when she was arrested. I think she’s been scarred for life by the system. Time to abolish the system.


21 posted on 12/17/2007 12:45:01 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: DFG

Since when did we as a nation become afraid of 10 year-olds with cutlrey?


22 posted on 12/17/2007 12:45:22 PM PST by benjamin032
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To: DFG
Old Klingon proverb: A running 10 year old girl with a knife can slit a thousand throats in day
23 posted on 12/17/2007 12:45:50 PM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: George from New England
...what happened to unjust laws and the duty of LEO to use their brain?

Ask for a trial by jury. They'll teach those LEO's and LE (liberal educators) some lessons.

24 posted on 12/17/2007 12:45:57 PM PST by Loud Mime (Hell on Earth: Clinton here, Putin there)
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To: theDentist
Thus what happens when Teachers are not allowed to use common sense.

They can't "use common sense" - if they make ANY judgement outside of the strict zero-tolerance policy, they will not be backed up by the school and will be personally liable for any consequences that occur due to their "common sense" judgement.

I'm not saying it's smart, or right, I'm just saying that's how it is. Once again, blame lawyers.

25 posted on 12/17/2007 12:45:58 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: DFG

Gov. Crist would be smart to pardon her and get it over.


26 posted on 12/17/2007 12:46:27 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Squawk 8888

A good way to get ANY stupid law/rule revoked is to make it apply to those who make the rules.

However, for the most part, they insulate themselves from this.


27 posted on 12/17/2007 12:47:02 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: DFG
Are we raising uncivilized cretins? What's wrong with packing in the full array of accoutrements for a formal setting?

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28 posted on 12/17/2007 12:47:26 PM PST by Sax
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To: DFG

If the knife had a serrated blade and a black handle it was an “Assault knife”.


29 posted on 12/17/2007 12:48:23 PM PST by CrappieLuck
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To: theDentist
The teachers are sufficiently indoctrinated to the point of having no common sense. The article:

"She did not use it inappropriately. She did not threaten anyone with it. She didn't pull it out and brandish it. Nothing of that nature," explained Marion County School Spokesman Kevin Christian.

But a couple of teachers took the utensil and called the sheriff. When deputies arrived, they were unable to get the child's parents on the phone, so they arrested her and took her to the county's juvenile assessment center.

30 posted on 12/17/2007 12:48:46 PM PST by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must NOT be Dismayed)
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To: DFG

The school district needs to write a quick check. If it’s too small, the sheriff should dig into his wallet.


31 posted on 12/17/2007 12:48:51 PM PST by PAR35
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To: DFG

Another example of socialists run amok. Why everyone in this country doesn’t homeschool or send their kids to parochial/private schools, I’ll never know! Why put your children into the clutches of the proto-communist NEA?


32 posted on 12/17/2007 12:49:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: DFG
Boy have things gone crazy. When I was in High School in the late 1970’s it wasn’t unusual to see in the student parking lot pick-up trucks with hunting rifles ready for the weekend hunting trip, or to shooting practice with the Schools gun club, which we had. We never thought twice about it.
33 posted on 12/17/2007 12:49:05 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: DFG
The school and the sheriff's office disagree on the reason for the arrest.

Two government entities fighting over which can overreact more to a non-event.

34 posted on 12/17/2007 12:49:39 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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I have mixed feelings on this.

On the one hand a little common-sense from school officials (and police) should be excersized. what in the heck do they want her to use, a plastic knife?

On the other hand, a steak knife is not a butter knife and could easily inflict serious damage if used as a weapon.

If the girl’s parents knew she was taking a steak knife to school, they should have known better given the times in which we live. How ‘bout cutting up the steak before leaving for school?


35 posted on 12/17/2007 12:49:50 PM PST by jeffj
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To: CrappieLuck

Did it have a bayonet lug, or would that be redundant on a knife?

Detachable serations?


36 posted on 12/17/2007 12:50:02 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Sax

“Would ya’ please pass the jelly?”


37 posted on 12/17/2007 12:50:08 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: DFG

Get old sparky warmed up.


38 posted on 12/17/2007 12:50:36 PM PST by boomop1
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
"How many knives do you have in your school?"

When I went to high school (70's) I probably carried my small swiss army knife in my pocket about 60% of the time. It was a "mini" with only two blades that was very handy. If I saw a teacher trying to cut something I wouldn't have thought twice about offering the pocketknife to them and the teacher wouldn't have thought twice about accepting it to do the job. It was as natural as a wallet, chewing gum, spare change or any other thing people carry around in their pockets. Now you get ARRESTED for it?

39 posted on 12/17/2007 12:53:32 PM PST by joebuck
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To: MrB

Perhaps a bright orange tip could have avoided such confusion and panic


40 posted on 12/17/2007 12:53:43 PM PST by CrappieLuck
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To: DFG
Surely Child Protective Services will now want to inspect the parents home for more unsecured deadly steak knives.

SWAT needs to be called in.

41 posted on 12/17/2007 12:54:03 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: DFG

Note my tag line.


42 posted on 12/17/2007 12:54:22 PM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: DFG
She now faces a felony charge after being arrested - it is a felony to have a steak knife?
43 posted on 12/17/2007 12:55:10 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: DFG

“Zero Tolerance” is amok by definition. Everybody cheers it at first, cuz we’re gonna kick some “bad guy” ass. And then the reality of it sets in.


44 posted on 12/17/2007 12:56:37 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: SF Republican

It’s a felony to bring a “weapon” into a school, I assume.


45 posted on 12/17/2007 12:56:44 PM PST by Tax-chick (Every committee wants to take over the world.)
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To: SF Republican
"it is a felony to have a steak knife?"

Not sure, but I know having one at a gun fight is a capital offense.

46 posted on 12/17/2007 12:57:30 PM PST by joebuck
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To: jeffj

“... a steak knife could easily inflict serious damage if used as a weapon.”

So could a compass (the kind used to draw circles).


47 posted on 12/17/2007 12:59:21 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: DFG

All that she needed to say was that she wanted to use it on George Bush. Not only would she have escaped punishment, but the publik scewl teechurz would have given her all A’s this year.


48 posted on 12/17/2007 1:01:50 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: DFG

In the early 70s I wore a 4” Buck folding hunter on my belt to school every day.

Never once thought of it as a weapon, and nobody every asked me about it.


49 posted on 12/17/2007 1:02:06 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: DFG

Her true crime: Real meat on a school campus


50 posted on 12/17/2007 1:02:22 PM PST by sticker
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