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<b>Green Acres </b><br><br> "Darling, I love you, but give me Park Avenue."
WSJ ^ | 12/16/07 | WSJO editorial

Posted on 12/16/2007 12:04:09 AM PST by BIGLOOK

Here's today's quiz: What do Scottie Pippen, David Letterman and Ted Turner have in common? Answer: None of them are farmers, but all three have received thousands of dollars in federal farm subsidies this decade.

We could add to that list of non-farmer farm-aid recipients David Rockefeller, Leonard Lauder of the cosmetics firm, Edgar Bronfman Sr. of the Seagram fortune, and Microsoft cofounder Paul Allen. Our point is that you don't have to drive a tractor, plant seeds, or even live anywhere near rural America to qualify for Uncle Sam's farm largess. And you sure don't have to be poor.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 110th; farmsubsidies; federalspending; usda
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A residual unsolved issue that we'll never see in the presidential debates.
1 posted on 12/16/2007 12:04:12 AM PST by BIGLOOK
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To: george76

Prominent Coloradans .....ping.


2 posted on 12/16/2007 12:06:10 AM PST by BIGLOOK
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To: BIGLOOK
Ted Turner have in common? Answer: None of them are farmers

I'll post essentially what I posted last time this appeared on FR.

I expect better quality from the WSJ. Red Ted is heavily engaged in agriculture. He owns a ranch out west, and last time I looked, he still had several plantations scattered around the south.

3 posted on 12/16/2007 12:07:44 AM PST by PAR35
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To: BIGLOOK

Here’s a link to the previous posting and 68 comments.

Green Acres (562 Farm Subsidy Checks Go To Manhattan)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938173/posts
Posted by shrinkermd
On News/Activism 12/11/2007 7:35:44 PM CST · 68 replies

Wall Street Journal ^ | 11 December 2007 | Editorial Staff
Here’s today’s quiz: What do Scottie Pippen, David Letterman and Ted Turner have in common?


4 posted on 12/16/2007 12:11:27 AM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

He “owns” and he “has”, but these are abstract considerations, and his “involvement” is surely on a similarly abstract plane. The purpose of these subsidies was, and is ( as far as any purpose may be advanced on principle ) to aid “struggling farmers”, not to provide financial opportunities to the super wealthy.


5 posted on 12/16/2007 12:20:22 AM PST by dr_lew
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To: PAR35
I expect better quality from the WSJ. Red Ted is heavily engaged in agriculture. He owns a ranch out west, and last time I looked, he still had several plantations scattered around the south.

He needs government subsidies to operate them??

6 posted on 12/16/2007 12:24:08 AM PST by FreedomCalls (Texas: "We close at five.")
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To: PAR35

I didn’t know this was out before. Just got it off WSJO.


7 posted on 12/16/2007 12:30:54 AM PST by BIGLOOK
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To: PAR35; dr_lew; FreedomCalls

Oh.....and everyone above is right.


8 posted on 12/16/2007 12:33:02 AM PST by BIGLOOK
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To: FreedomCalls
He needs government subsidies to operate them??

If you are a socialist, and the government offers you free money, are you going to think about 'need'?

9 posted on 12/16/2007 12:38:52 AM PST by PAR35
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To: dr_lew
The purpose of these subsidies was, and is ( as far as any purpose may be advanced on principle ) to aid “struggling farmers”

That might be what the politicians tell the gullible, but the laws are carefully drawn to benefit the big contributors as well.

10 posted on 12/16/2007 12:40:27 AM PST by PAR35
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To: BIGLOOK

Well Ted does own the Braves’ “farm” system.


11 posted on 12/16/2007 1:19:33 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: (n) The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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I suppose MLB deserves subsidies too. After the salary payouts what’s left for the poor owners. Concession profits?
12 posted on 12/16/2007 1:25:28 AM PST by BIGLOOK
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To: BIGLOOK

These very wealthy “gentleman farmers” always have the option of simply giving it back, you know. Or doing some Don Imus sort of thing like supporting a rural retreat for the “underpriviliged” kids, which would be a way of maximizing the return of the dollars that would be simply sprinkles on the icing, so to speak.

Most of these payments are for “CRP” land, that is intentionally held out of production, and is sort of a strategic reserve for farmland, meant to artificially reduce the total production of agricultural goods, either as feed grains or as pasture land. This practice is also used to reduce the pressure on “environmentally sensitive” land, subject to flooding or erosion. It is a means of ensuring the level of a “livable” rate of return for land ownership, and is really not that new of an idea, since it was originally instituted in the early days of the New Deal.

These farmland use restriction payments do absolutely nothing for farms below a certain minimum size.


13 posted on 12/16/2007 2:12:34 AM PST by alloysteel (Ignorance is no handicap for some people in a debate. They just get more shrill.)
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To: BIGLOOK

A good website to check on how much money friends and relatives are collecting.

http://farm.ewg.org/farm/index.php?key=nosign


14 posted on 12/16/2007 4:07:04 AM PST by revtown
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To: BIGLOOK

Let’s be fair and call them plantations. ;)


15 posted on 12/16/2007 5:07:08 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( "Do well, but remember to do good.")
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To: PAR35

>>>>Red Ted is heavily engaged in agriculture.

Just how involved is he? Day to day? Does he interview the hands that do the work? Does he plan the crop? Does he plant the crop? Harvest? Just what does he do that engages him so? Being a landowner does not engage one in agriculture.


16 posted on 12/16/2007 5:19:23 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (A dyslexic, agnostic insomniac asks, "Is there a doG?")
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To: BIGLOOK
Just copied the following at a site that tells how to collect subsidies. Do a search for "how to get farm subsidies.

Remember that once you sign up for CREP and you start receiving farm subsidy benefits, you cannot do any farming on your land for the length of the contract (usually 10 to 15 years).

17 posted on 12/16/2007 6:09:38 AM PST by MrPiper
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To: BIGLOOK

This really irritates me. Someone in my estranged family (now you know why) is on this list. He was able to give his wife $500,000.00 in a divorce settlement. We are giving him almost 150,000.


18 posted on 12/16/2007 6:36:01 AM PST by surelyclintonsbaddream (GO MISSOURI TIGERS)
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To: BIGLOOK
thousands of dollars in federal farm subsidies

What are you implying?

19 posted on 12/16/2007 7:01:49 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (screw the left. did I say that already? screw the left.)
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To: BIGLOOK
< b>Green Acres < /b>< br>< br>

Must be cold in Green Acres today.

20 posted on 12/16/2007 7:03:12 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (screw the left. did I say that already? screw the left.)
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