2004 Presidential race with proper red/Democrat; blue/Republican color scheme (not those switcheroo colors).
Posted on 12/13/2007 6:52:45 PM PST by LdSentinal
JACKSON — Mike Moore, viewed by many Mississippi Democrats as their best hope to capture a U.S. Senate seat held since 1989 by a Republican, said Thursday afternoon he would not be a candidate for the post.
Moore, who served four terms as state attorney general, had said earlier he was considering running for the Senate seat that is being vacated by Republican Trent Lott. Moore stepped down as attorney general four years ago and is now in private law practice in Jackson.
"The polls show I could win; and I would have the money I needed to win the race," Moore said. "It all just came down to whether it was best for me and my family.
"The truth is, I made my decision four years ago, and it has been a good one for my family and me."
Moore said he believes he can continue to make a difference in private law practice and while serving on various boards and commissions.
Good.
Mike Moore is out. They have only one high profile rodent left who has a shot, and that’s Ronnie Musgrove.
Phew! I kept hearing that Moore was almost worshipped in that state or something.
We should be able to beat Musgrove, unless the guy who gets Lott’s seat is totally inept.
Lott hasn’t even announced an official retirement date, yet. He said sometime in December, but there’s only 17 days left. It also has some potential impact, since if he resigns prior to January 3rd, the special election may have to be held well before November. Lott’s departure is causing major headaches because of that question.
As for likely candidates, I hope it isn’t Roger Wicker for us, as he has some potential baggage.
This is a HUGE break! And I don’t think that Ronnie Musgrove is as strong as he’s alleged to be.
The only one IMHO who would have a shot at winning is Congressman Gene Taylor, and he’s almost a Republican, anyway.
Taylor is an unbalanced individual. “Almost Republicans” don’t vote for Pelosi for Speaker, either.
I can’t see a state that went 78% for Bush in 2004 and has gone GOP since 1980 in all national elections and senate races going Dem for anyone.
The demographics for Mississipppi are such that a certain 62% of the state population votes 85-90% GOP and the other 38% votes 10% GOP.....lol...some really old Hiram Revels fans with good memories...
anyhow...I bet the Dems don’t give Mississippi much thought statewide
I think Moore just doesn’t want to take the pay cut.
2004 Presidential race with proper red/Democrat; blue/Republican color scheme (not those switcheroo colors).
The white vote in Mississippi is like Utah.
yes....i did mess up the general %...an oversight...trying to catch up here in late night free time
Not exactly. In MS, it's almost entirely on racial lines with little overlap (61% White, 37% Black). If UT voted the same way, it would be literally 90%+ GOP (94% White, 1% Black). They voted 72% for Dubya to Kerry's 26%. Of course, there was one county in UT that voted 90% for Dubya to 10% for Kerry (Rich County, a rural county bordering on Wyoming). I guess that's as close to heaven on Earth as you can get for Republicans. ;-D
I have never looked that up....I had Freepers lecture me back in 2004 that whites in Utah voted more for Bush than in Mississippi....they lied....those dogs
is there any state more Utah than Utah besides Mississippi?
btw....blacks used to be 38% in my home state...has it goen down and why?
Your mouth must water when you’re on the US Election Atlas, DJ! ;^)
I love it when the anti-Dixie Freepers bring up the fact that the South voted for Carter in 1976. That’s the only presidential election in the past forty years where the South voted mostly for the Democrat (who ran as a conservative, by the way), and they dredge it up. It doesn’t bother them that the Northeast voted mostly Democrat in most of the elections during that same time frame, including the past four elections where they voted almost unanimously Democrat. The fact that the South did so once, thirty years ago, is unforgivable and proves Dixie should be tossed aside by the Republicans.
The white vote in Dixie from men like me and our spouses is all that keeps them nation from falling off the abyss...us and Indiana and Utah and Idaho.
and southerners like me are the most derided anyhwere...even here...go figure
one thing you learn around here despite all the talk about truth and reason and pragmatism and ideology....
is that folk’s opinions are shaped laregly by where they come from, what they are and their view of God.....the facts are shaped by folks to suit those notions more than standing on their own empiricism.
scratch underneath here and you see opinions that reflect what people are
Heh, yeah, that's not possible. There's quite a number of White liberals in Salt Lake City with nothing comparable in MS (save perhaps the pig-ignorant backwoods hillbillies that think the GOP is the party of Sherman, Blanche Bruce and Hiram Revels).
"is there any state more Utah than Utah besides Mississippi?"
I'm thinking Idaho, but they're having a leftist element move in. Boise is getting taken over.
"btw....blacks used to be 38% in my home state...has it goen down and why?"
Used to be higher than that, as with South Carolina, both states once had overall majority Black populations (reflected in the Reconstruction era political representation), but from that period on, the Black population declined as there was obviously going to be little opportunity and, of course, the blatant oppression and racism, which led most to move North to places like Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, etc (whereas SC and East Coast Blacks moved to Baltimore, Philly, Newark & New York). Especially after the Great Flood back in the '20s, that sent huge numbers of Blacks out of the state (that red section of the map above in the Delta used to have counties with far greater populations 70-80 years ago than they have today). I would think the numbers are probably levelling off. Of course, there are a lot of Whites fleeing Memphis and swelling the population of some of the northern MS counties adjacent, so that might be enough to tip it a point.
It’s great visiting a site where they get it right. Dave Leip wasn’t about to sit there and convert his umpteen maps to the post-2000 media colors. Bless his heart for that.
You knowing Nashville as I do, it’s a damn good thing I don’t vote like the folks “where I came from”, or I’d be voting Democrat. It’s quite lonely being a Nashville Republican. :-(
Taylor’s an effeminate, troop-bashing little punk. I could kick his @ss, and I weigh 150 on a good day.
why would he run? he is gonna make millions for the rest of his life with little if any stress (or any real time involved). Is being one of many senators really worth it?
You’re quite an exception and you know it.
Me on the other hand...am a stereotype as are most folks.
Assuming that blacks were 35% of MS voters in 2004 (which is a fair estimate, since blacks are 37% of the total MS population but have a higher percentage below age 18 and a higher percentage of felons and other non-voters than do whites) and that they gave President Bush 10% of the vote in 2004, that means that non-black voters in MS (almost all of whom are white Anglos) gave President Bush 85% of the vote in 2004. No other group in any other state gave President Bush such a high percentage of the vote (unless you count small sub-groups, such as the Dutch in Iowa and Michigan or Cubans in South Florida, or white Anglos in West Texas but not in Texas as a whole).
btw....NRT and I will lunch today in Lebanon as is our wont weekly and as usual when FR comes up, we will discuss your Go-To rep on local and regional politics.
I have to head out but I can further elaborate my gut about how folks here often just expound on where their heart leads them in the first place
the key is to find where all this can converge...and I think that’s harder today
The Red spots must be where MS black folks live.
I’m glad Moore is out of the race. The seat leans GOP. I wish Gene Taylor would go for the Seante seat. that way we’ll get a two for one deal. And Trent Lott will finally atoned for his blunder back in 1988.
Mmm, yeah. But not always a positive. Having greater insight doesn't equate with having a better time of it than just an average rube.
I can’t imagine South FL Cubans voting 85% for Dubya !
I think I’m better on out-of-state stuff. I find it’s easier to pontificate on things far away. I tend to cringe looking at the local. Hope you fellas enjoy your lunch. ;-)
As for Trent Lott and the loss of his House seat, you forgot that Republican Larkin Smith did win that seat that Lott vacated, but nobody knew Smith's love of small planes would cut his Congressional tenure so short. Running Smith's widow, that Lott passed over, might not have guaranteed us holding the seat over Taylor (Smith's original 1988 opponent). When she ended up running later, she lost badly.
“I can’t imagine South FL Cubans voting 85% for Dubya !”
I’d presume that was a bit lower than 85% if only because, unfortunately, some of the younger native FL-born Cuban-Americans were trending somewhat away from their GOP parents. Dubya’s current (and misguided) policy on those fleeing Cuba (wet foot, dry foot) has obviously eroded support for the GOP amongst them. Although I have become increasingly anti-illegal (especially since July), I tend to give some sympathy to those literally fleeing for their lives from totalitarian regimes (I also have similar sympathy for Haitians, although that’s not quite the same political situation as with Cuba). Mexico doesn’t meet that by any stretch of the imagination.
Wow!
You’re right...it is huge!
I don’t think Ronnie will be strong, either.
Taylor is the more appealing ‘Rat candidate.
Wheeee! No Moore Mike!!!
"Obi Wan DJ - you're our only hope!"
Of course, pursuant to the federal Cuba Adjustment Act, Cubans that make it to the U.S. are not illegal aliens.
It was rank hypocrisy for Clinton to deem U.S. coastal waters to be the United States for every conceivable purpose, yet not to be the U.S. for purposes of the Cuba Adjustment Act. It is also shameful that President Bush has continued that idiotic policy. If Cubans escaping a Communist tyranny make it to U.S. territorial waters, it is cruel to send them back to Castro where their fate is even worse than it was before.
Yup. And, of course, the Elián González matter, which still boils my blood. Probably the singlemost evil thing the Clinton Administration did. Of course, that little boy’s forceable abduction to Cuba probably made Dubya President by tipping enough Cuban-American votes in FL against Gore.
Some cause for celebration.
More so than tipping wavering Cuban-American voters our way, it energized the constituency and increased turnout; they all made sure that their grandparents had a ride to the polls to go and vote Republican. That’s what all of the Rudyphiles don’t understand-—even if most conservatives hold their noses and vote for Rudy (which may or may not be the case), they won’t be engaged in the type of informal get-out-the-vote activities that win elections. (And, of course, Rudy would also turn off all of those socially conservative traditional Democrats that need a reason to pull the lever for the GOP candidate, and running someone just as socially liberal as the Democrats certainly would’n’t give them a reason to abandon the Democrat candidates.)
“Of course, there are a lot of Whites fleeing Memphis and swelling the population of some of the northern MS counties adjacent, so that might be enough to tip it a point.”
Hope I live long enough to see that make some positive changes in Marshall and Benton Counties. I’m not racist at all but there are a lot of people with political power there that are really in need of an upgrade.
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