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A Family's Nightmare: Accident Photos of Their Beautiful Daughter Released
ABC News ^ | Nov. 16, 2007 | JIM AVILA, EAMON McNIFF and SCOTT MICHELS

Posted on 12/11/2007 5:39:22 PM PST by McCoMo

A Family's Nightmare: Accident Photos of Their Beautiful Daughter Released Family of Nikki Catsouras Has Sued Investigators for Allegedly Releasing Accident Pictures

Not long after their 18-year-old daughter died in a car accident, Christos and Lesli Catsouras were forced to relive their grief.

They soon began receiving anonymous e-mails and text messages that contained photographs of the accident, including pictures of Nicole Catsouras' decapitated body, still strapped to the crumpled remains of her father's Porsche. A fake MySpace page was created, which at first looked like a tribute to Catsouras but also led to the horrific photos.

"What type of individual would do that?" asked Christos.

The pictures, taken by California Highway Patrol officers and e-mailed outside the department, spread around the Internet, making their way to about 1,600 Web sites, according to an investigator hired by family. The images became so persistent that Lesli Catsouras stopped checking her e-mail. Nikki's three younger sisters were forbidden to use the Internet, and 16-year-old Danielle was taken out of school to be home schooled out of fear that her peers might confront her with the pictures.

"There was threats that people were gonna put the pictures on my locker, in my locker," said Danielle. "I remember her in such a great way, I don't wanna see it and have that image stuck in my head."

"I've stopped using my e-mail," says Lesli Catsouras. "I don't want to see these every single day. …And you know, I take a risk every time I go on the computer."

We talk about Nikki all the time, " said Christos. "We've got pictures of her everywhere, We laugh about her, cry. I always called her Angel."

A judge in California ruled that the Catsouras family's lawsuit against the California Highway Patrol for allegedly releasing the accident scene pictures can go forward. According to Catsouras family attorney Tyler Offenhauser, the ruling is a significant step toward getting justice for Nikki because a jury will now decide whether the CHP must take responsibility for its employees' conduct of disseminating the graphic photos outside the agency.

"They were crime scene pictures that never, ever should have gone out," Christos Catsouras said. "There was a big mistake made by the California Highway Patrol that was never really acknowledged, or they never wanted to help us once that mistake had been made."

The California Highway Patrol declined to comment on the case, citing the pending litigation. Though the CHP has admitted in a letter to the Catsouras family that its dispatchers violated department policy, it has said it is not legally responsible for the Catsourases' anguish.

According to state highway patrol reports, at approximately 1:45 p.m. last Halloween, 15 minutes after taking her father's Porsche 911 for a drive without permission, Nikki Catsouras was traveling 100 mph on State Route 241, near Lake Forest, Calif., when she clipped another car and lost control, slamming into a concrete tollbooth, killing her instantly.


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I hope the family wins any and all lawsuits, against the CHP, bloggers who posted the pics, and especially any and all persons who email these to the family. This is absolutely sickening. I have little sympathy for the girl herself, and generally tend to view things like this as natures way of weeding stupid genes from the gene pool (she was driving 100 mph)... but to disseminate the pictures in this manner is sickening.

Personally, if someone sent pics like this of my child to my family members... they that person had better worry about buying a bullet-proof vest. Getting sued would be the LEAST of their problems.

1 posted on 12/11/2007 5:39:24 PM PST by McCoMo
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To: McCoMo

I don’t think you’d be able to track down everyone who disseminated the photos, but the CHP is, and should be, in trouble for allowing unauthorized persons access to the photos.


2 posted on 12/11/2007 5:43:57 PM PST by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: McCoMo
"There was threats that people were gonna put the pictures on my locker, in my locker," said Danielle.

There was threats? Definitely not homeskooled.

3 posted on 12/11/2007 5:44:41 PM PST by jdm
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To: McCoMo
Already posted here
4 posted on 12/11/2007 5:44:49 PM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: McCoMo

My heart goes out to this family; but I am also realistic in knowing there can and will be no justice served for them.


5 posted on 12/11/2007 5:45:00 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: DocRock

Sorry if I doubled up. Did a search on the girls name and found nothing.


6 posted on 12/11/2007 5:46:08 PM PST by McCoMo
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To: McCoMo

That’s ok, the double post police are always on the job.


7 posted on 12/11/2007 5:47:03 PM PST by skateman (The MSM is bad, except when it serves our purpose..........)
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To: McCoMo

No prob, it was quite a while ago


8 posted on 12/11/2007 5:47:14 PM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: wimpycat

Tracking down the few folks who actually emailed the pics to the mother would not be quite so difficult.

Heads should roll at the CHP.


9 posted on 12/11/2007 5:47:21 PM PST by McCoMo
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To: McCoMo

People are so folking sick these days.


10 posted on 12/11/2007 5:48:29 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: McCoMo
...still strapped to the crumpled remains of her father's Porsche."

It would have been wise to take the T-bird away, before that happened.

11 posted on 12/11/2007 5:49:24 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: McCoMo
The line which really got me was...

"Though the CHP has admitted in a letter to the Catsouras family that its dispatchers violated department policy, it has said it is not legally responsible for the Catsourases' anguish."

Maybe, and maybe not. But there is no doubt they are MORALLY responsible. I hope a jury hangs the CHP out to dry.

13 posted on 12/11/2007 5:51:02 PM PST by McCoMo
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To: McCoMo
You should lighten up... People can post what ever they damn well please. It might be tough for the family, but it might save a life of someone else.

You have surely seen cars that have been wrecked on display... Guess what? It’s hard on the family of the deceased... But it saves lives. Period!

14 posted on 12/11/2007 5:52:16 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: McCoMo
"Nikki Catsouras was traveling 100 mph on State Route 241, near Lake Forest, Calif., when she clipped another car and lost control, slamming into a concrete tollbooth, killing her instantly."

Oh no! Glad no one else was killed.

15 posted on 12/11/2007 5:52:55 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: McCoMo

My taxes my documents.


17 posted on 12/11/2007 5:53:24 PM PST by Porterville (Don't bug me about my grammar, you are not that great.)
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To: babygene

How will emailing pics to the family save lives?


18 posted on 12/11/2007 5:53:54 PM PST by McCoMo
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To: RGSpincich
"When ditzy little chicks steal cars and drive studidly real bad things happen. "

Damn right. Driving studidly is sure to result in a lot of seriesly stuned beebers.

19 posted on 12/11/2007 5:55:13 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: McCoMo

“How will emailing pics to the family save lives?”

Posting them on the web might... It’s still the same as putting a mangled car outside a school on Forth of July weekend.


20 posted on 12/11/2007 5:57:55 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: McCoMo

The parents should stand down and so should you, drama queen.


21 posted on 12/11/2007 5:59:44 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: babygene

Won’t save a single life. Kids always think death is something that will happen to OTHER people.


22 posted on 12/11/2007 6:00:02 PM PST by McCoMo
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To: McCoMo
"Won’t save a single life. Kids always think death is something that will happen to OTHER people. "

Wrong. Some people pay attn.

24 posted on 12/11/2007 6:03:00 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: DocRock
Already posted here

Who cares. Get a life.

25 posted on 12/11/2007 6:03:36 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: spunkets

Intelligent ones... those who pay attention... do not need vivid photos to know that striking a concrete toll booth at 100 mph will likely be fatal.


26 posted on 12/11/2007 6:04:18 PM PST by McCoMo
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To: McCoMo

Thanks for the post.

Don’t worry about rude people around here. Just keep doing your best.


27 posted on 12/11/2007 6:04:33 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: DocRock
Your link goes to a July 7 post.

How in the world did you find it? Search on decapitated?

28 posted on 12/11/2007 6:05:33 PM PST by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: Mr. Brightside

“Don’t worry about rude people”

LOL, I never do.


29 posted on 12/11/2007 6:05:50 PM PST by McCoMo
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To: Mr. Brightside
"Who cares"

Those that may wish to check out the almost 200 posts on that thread.
30 posted on 12/11/2007 6:06:22 PM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: McCoMo
"Intelligent ones... those who pay attention... do not need vivid photos to know that striking a concrete toll booth at 100 mph will likely be fatal. "
31 posted on 12/11/2007 6:07:46 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: McCoMo
"Intelligent ones... those who pay attention... do not need vivid photos to know that striking a concrete toll booth at 100 mph will likely be fatal. "

Intelligent ones appreciate the graphics. The other ones miss the point entirely. BTW, that was mommy and daddy that enabled the generation of that pic in the first place. The CHP had nothing to do with that.

32 posted on 12/11/2007 6:08:35 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: don-o
Look, I read it back then, I knew there was a lot of posts on that thread and I simply searched on “accident photos”. I told McCoMo in post 8 that it was OK and it was a long time ago.
33 posted on 12/11/2007 6:08:40 PM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: All

Everyone show some respect to the family and to each other.


34 posted on 12/11/2007 6:10:32 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Porterville
No, not even close.

Since you seem to not be a fan of basic,decent citizen privacy rights, I take it you would not have a problem if a bunch of sinister hackers decided to concentrate on your every daily move, and publish everything they could possibly attain about your daily routines, in a blog?

That wouldn’t be stalking, would it?
After all, you should have no expectation of any privacy outside of your own fortress!

35 posted on 12/11/2007 6:15:12 PM PST by sarasmom (Not so much)
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To: McCoMo
Would you mind positing the pics, so we can have a look at em?
36 posted on 12/11/2007 6:20:08 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Porterville

Then I suppose I should be able to access your criminal background (INCLUDING juvenile), tax records, any health records or other documents the govt may possess about YOU, after all.. My taxes, My documents.


37 posted on 12/11/2007 6:21:39 PM PST by McCoMo
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To: babygene

i’ve seen the pics. not good. i’m sure you can google them and find them. this is not the proper forum, imho.


38 posted on 12/11/2007 6:22:16 PM PST by thefactor
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To: babygene

I have no desire to even see the pics, let alone post them. I have seen enough dead bodies, first-hand, to suit me. Unlike some people.. I do not have to look at such things to get my rocks off.


39 posted on 12/11/2007 6:23:47 PM PST by McCoMo
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To: McCoMo

It’s very surprising to see the reactions of students when they watch assemblies which show the results of this kind of carelessness.


40 posted on 12/11/2007 6:30:12 PM PST by bannie
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To: McCoMo
“I do not have to look at such things to get my rocks off.”

Didn’t you bring the subject up in the first place? Your talking about pictures that (almost) no one has seen...

41 posted on 12/11/2007 6:30:15 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: McCoMo
I do not have to look at such things to get my rocks off.

Maybe they aren't using them "to get their rocks off" but as a sobering warning to teens about the dangers of speed and not paying attention to the road. They didn't show you Signal 30 or Mechanized Death in Driver's Ed class?

42 posted on 12/11/2007 6:30:34 PM PST by FreedomCalls (Texas: "We close at five.")
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To: babygene

Why do we elevate the people’s right to do and say stupid things which can have devastating effects on others. We seem to be raising a generation of barbarians were it is ok to mock and make fun of anything. For example, there were a shocking number of people who were ready to defend the students who recently dressed up as UVA Murder Victims for Holloween. Its things like this that make me wish that the old customs about dueling had not been abolished - at least back then people had to have some common decensy in what they publically said and did.


43 posted on 12/11/2007 6:32:04 PM PST by dschapin
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To: babygene
It’s still the same as putting a mangled car outside a school on Forth of July weekend.

If they put a decapitated body in the mangled car, I would agree that might be the same thing.

There's a REASON these 'scared straight' type of campaigns don't use photos of identifiable accident victims. It's called respect for the dead and family members of the deceased. Some family members, however, do allow photos of their deceased loved ones to be used for training purposes and for safe driving campaigns. If the family gives permission, that's another story.

I personally don't think these types of photos deter the sort of teens and adults who drive like maniacs, anyway. They think they're invincible and that it can't happen to them. Illegally e-mailing and posting these photos over the internet, in this particular case, I believe served no purpose other than to feed ghoulish tendencies and torment the family. There were no altruistic motives in this case, IMO.

44 posted on 12/11/2007 6:35:33 PM PST by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: FreedomCalls

You think sending the photos to the family was a sobering warning about the dangers of speed? Somehow I get idea that the family has already gotten that message. In spades.


45 posted on 12/11/2007 6:37:16 PM PST by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: McCoMo
Maybe, and maybe not. But there is no doubt they are MORALLY responsible. I hope a jury hangs the CHP out to dry.

They will settle out of court, if it goes to trial they will need to up the names of everyone that touched the pictures. Whom ever is in charge there needs to be fired as well as the district supervisor.

46 posted on 12/11/2007 6:39:05 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: McCoMo

Ignore the posting police. I was on vacation the week that the first thread was posted and missed it completely, no computer available.

The fact that some many people seem so morbidly obsessed with these pictures is really unsettling. The family has enough to deal with. Tormenting them on top of it accomplishes nothing and that’s sick. It’s also a sign of the real sickness of our society that people would circulate stuff like this so prolifically. Too many people have too much time on their hands.


47 posted on 12/11/2007 6:42:56 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: dschapin

“Why do we elevate the people’s right to do and say stupid things which can have devastating effects on others. “

Freedom of speech is not about speech that everyone wants to hear. It’s about speech that is stupid and offends people...


48 posted on 12/11/2007 6:43:23 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: babygene

I’ve seen them. You don’t want to.


49 posted on 12/11/2007 6:44:58 PM PST by Raebie
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To: McCoMo

Some of the replies on this thread are downright repulsive. For God’s sake, a young woman lost her life and people are tormenting her family with gruesome photos of her death...and some here are defending those actions.

I don’t know what the policy is here, but I would HOPE that anyone who would post the photos would be permanently banned.


50 posted on 12/11/2007 6:45:34 PM PST by KJC1
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