Posted on 12/07/2007 10:43:59 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o
Was the book’s villainess named Coulter? And was the book written recently enough that the author would’ve known about our beloved Ann?
"But before she can begin her search for Roger, Lyra is introduced to Mrs. Coulter, a beautiful and bewitching woman. Mrs. Coulter is a scholar and an explorer - seemingly everything that Lyra could ever hope to be. Mrs. Coulter takes Lyra under her wing and employs her as an assistant to help in the next expedition to explore the Arctic North. On the morning she is to leave Jordan College, the Master of the school gives Lyra an alethiometer, a rare and powerful instrument with the power to reveal the truth in all things."
In other words instead of magical creatures with purpose and goodness as in LOTR— we have lots of smelly brown spots scrambling and confused.
I dont care about the politics behind it, but the movie was amazing. And just because a bunch of nutbags say its anti-christian, and put a “fatwa” on it, doesnt make it so. If you are a free thinker who has a brain of his own, you should first see the movie and then judge it by yourself. I personally dont think it is anti-christian, just got some striking resemblance to the catholic-church authority figure. Overall, a highly entertaining and extremely creative movie.
Have you actually seen it before condemning it as a “bore” ? The armored polar bears, the cute innocent but sharp as a razor child Lyra, the fantastic visuals and the very concept of the movie - highly creative !
Loder actually seems to have something of a brain. For real, I mean, not just relative to the average person who appears on MTV. All you need to do is spell “cat” without using a “k” and you’re already in the upper 10% of the MTV class.
Why do you think the movie has anti-Christian overtones? Perhaps that’s what the author intended?
You haven’t done YOUR research before criticism of “nutbag” Christians. You call it “free thinking” but your just “freely stinking.”
Good night.
“The armored polar bears, the cute innocent but sharp as a razor child Lyra, the fantastic visuals and the very concept of the movie - highly creative !”
Yeah, and all the kids will love the creatures, and want to buy the books, and therein lies the problem, as they all get indoctrinated into atheism.
The problem, of course, is that you are also a customer. If everybody went out to see a movie that they wound up hating, the studio would consider the movie a commercial and would be encouraged to produce more of the same. They don't care what you think of the movie. By the time you are done purchasing your ticket, the most important part of your relationship has been concluded, in their eyes.
This is particularly important in this case, because the author or the books has been quite forthright in his statements that the first book/movie is "eye candy", meant to get children involved in the series, and he saves the promotion of his athiest agenda for the second and particularly the third book/movie. If the first movie is a commercial failure, then the second and third movies will never be produced, which would limit the damage done to unsuspecting children.
I suspect you and I may differ on whether filling the minds of children with purposeful and malicious athiest thought qualifies as "damage". As a parent who struggles daily to bring up a Godly and moral child, I certainly consider it to be so. I am not a zealot. I am not a nutbag. I am not a loon. I am a parent who is concerned about his child.
Heeheee,you can’t make this stuff up.Wonder if we can fire him:)
Lord Asriel - Lyra’s father. Lord Asriel had an affair with Mrs. Coulter, Lyra’s mother, and killed Mr. Coulter. Lord Asriel masquerades as Lyra’s uncle early on in the trilogy. Lord Asriel kills Roger Parslow and leads the army of rebels against God. His daemon is Stelmaria, a snow leopard.In other words, this series, aimed at children, worships evil[linking thru to in-depth:]
Modeled after Satan in Milton’s Paradise Lost, Lord Asriel is the gentlemanly devil who plans to overthrow God and establish a Republic of Heaven. In other stories, Asriel would almost certainly be the villain. In Pullman’s trilogy, Asriel is complicated, arrogant, and unlikable, but in many ways he is also a heroic figure.
The name Asriel is derived from Asrael, the name of a biblical angel. In the Bible, Asrael’s appearance heralds the apocalypse. He is also an angel of death who severs human souls from human bodies. Lord Asriel hopes to induce an apocalypse of his own by waging war on God, and he separates Roger’s soul (his daemon) from his body.
In Milton’s Paradise Lost, Satan tempts Eve with the fruit from the tree of knowledge. In Pullman’s trilogy, Lord Asriel’s compelling slides of Dust and the aurora borealis convince Lyra to go on her quest for knowledge. Though Lord Asriel doesn’t ultimately play the serpent to Lyra’s Eve, he does instill in her the thirst for knowledge.
I can't wait to see this movie!!! How did they get Ann Coulter to star in it? Huh??? What? You mean that Nicole Kidman is playing Ann Coulter? Well, that's OK too! Huh? Oh, that's "Mrs. Coulter," not Ann Coulter?
Never mind.
Mark
I grok that. Stranger in a Strange Land was the only one of Heinlein’s books I did not like.
Well, if you insist on saying Philip Pullman is a nutbag:"Pullman has left little doubt about his books' intended thrust in discussions of his work, noting in a 2003 interview that 'my books are about killing God" and in a 2001 interview that he was "trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief."
Source:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp
It seems to me if the author is up front about his intentions and his agenda we should go ahead and take his word for it.
"...and put a “fatwa” on it..." Ha! Save the drama fo' yo' mama. Nobody's attempting to ban tris, censor this, or put a contract on the author. It's safe to remove your tinfoil hat now.
"Overall, a highly entertaining and extremely creative movie."
That's as it may be.
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