Posted on 12/06/2007 9:49:28 AM PST by mbarker12474
Panelists discuss climate changes, peak oil
By Jake Palmateer Staff Writer
http://www.thedailystar.com/local/local_story_340040035.html
ONEONTA _ "Kill your lawn."
That was one of the recommendations from a panel discussion based around peak oil and climate change held Wednesday night at the First United Methodist Church.
Angelika St. Laurent of Cornell University promoted growing more vegetables and fruits locally _ including on lawns _ as a way to mitigate food-supply problems related to peak oil and climate change. ...
...Hubbert [in the 1950's] accurately predicted that American petroleum production would peak in less than two decades.
... a global peak, which Fleisher said is on the verge of being reached.
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"We've lost our food independence," he said.
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"Chickens in your backyard are great fun," St. Laurent said.
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"I encourage every one of you to have at least a few weeks (of food) stored in your house," Lentz said.
(Excerpt) Read more at thedailystar.com ...
Moron’s I’m going to quit this PC goofy religion.
And this is the reason I call myself a Methodist in exile.
And people waste their time worrying about Mormons?
I’ve been around houses with chickens in the back yard. I hated the smell. I prefer the way the grocery store has ‘em - all dead and everything.
Hillary professes to be a Methodist.
“We’ve had climate change long before we’ve had human influence,” Fleisher said. “The critical thing is ... we may not be causing the climate change, but we are accelerating that change.”
This is where we find ourselves, we must make sacrifices in order to die slower; nobody thinks this can be avoided, they just want to drag it out and watch the suffering.
ELCA Lutherans are buckin’ for that “honor” too.
I agree. Besides, in the backyard they'd eventually thaw and stick up everything.
PCUSA, no?
Which other natioanl churche has taken a stance against Israel?
I got to thinking maybe these are “Santaria Methodists” where they need chickens for sacrifices or something? OK - I’m just kidding and don’t want to offend any real Methodists.
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Unitarian, if you count that as a religion.
Strange how this group of nimwits never reflects upon what they will do when global cooling occurs.
...outlined the concept of peak oil first put forth by M. King Hubbert in the 1950s. Hubbert accurately predicted that American petroleum production would peak in less than two decades.
OK, Hubbert accurately predicted that oil would peak by the 70's.
We're next told:
Today, peak oil generally refers to a global peak, which Fleisher said is on the verge of being reached.So what was 'accurately' predicted to have happened by the 70's is on the verge of happening almost 40 years late.
But, that's OK 'cause it still 'about to happen':
The best-case scenario is that the point at which global oil production reaches terminal decline is a decade or two away, he said.Yep, that sure was an accurate prediction. It was supposed to happen within twenty years, hasn't happened in nearly fifty, but it certainly will in another ten or twenty. What a joke. The only thing that's peaked about American oil production is the political will to allow exploration and drilling.
I grew up in the Methodist Church before the "United" modifier was added. I believe that happened in the early sixties and fairly soon after that they embraced the World Council of Churches. Things have not been the same since. It is still described as a church though.
That’s like saying that your favorite type of food is buffet.
I would love to see them do this here in the Ohio Valley. We have six inches of snow and just experienced a record low temperature last night.
How about the UUs?
Anyone notice which common phrase among environuts is missing?
> Which other natioanl churche has taken a stance against Israel?
United Methodist, et al. The Virginia Conference of the UMC, for example, voted to examine investments with a view to divesting two years ago. Nothing ever came of this, but with this vote the conference declared, imo, itself to be anti-Semitic by official legislative vote.
Most heinous thing the Va Conf has done since 1844, imo.
Mike B.
> I grew up in the Methodist Church before the “United” modifier was added. I believe that happened in the early sixties and fairly soon after that they embraced the World Council of Churches.....
1968. I dunno what role the merger in 1968 played, but since then membership has gradually descended, as it has with the Presbyterian Church, Episcopal Church of the US, and the Evangelical Lutheran Church. Leftist politics and abandonment of Matthew 28:19-20 is the underlying driver.
Actually the 68 merger with the United Brethren probably delayed the liberalization of the Meth. The Brethren are much more spiritual than Meth. They infused a lot of spirit into the “stiff” Meth. One can still tell which of the churches were Brethren and which were Methodist. The liberal foolishment of the leadership is mainly ignored by the people in the pews. Same with a lot of pastors. They try to keep a low profile and preach the Goapel.
The Presbyterian Church, USA is real looney also.
But were any flatulent kangaroos present?
I had a member of our methodist church discuss the importance of the UN and how we’re causing the planet to warm. That was the last time we attended the coffee klatch.
Isn’t Earth worship a form of idolotry?
Could it be that the underlying cause is liberalism? Could the WCC have been the underlying driver that drove the Methodist Church in that direction?
And W's a United Methodist too. So what?
While the Methodist has more than it's share of goofy liberal nonsense, you can't tag this mini-Balifest on the United Methodist Church. The church provided a meeting hall for the Liberal loonies...
"St. Laurent, a researcher at Cornell, Mark Davies of Hartwick College and Jay Fleisher of the State University College at Oneonta were the panelists at the discussion sponsored by the Environmental Work Group of Central New York. The event attracted more than 70 area residents who filled nearly every seat in an upstairs meeting hall at the church."
For all we know, St. Laurent, Davies, and Fleisher are all Episcopaleans or Unitarians or Goreans (i.e., the church of algore) who are meeting in the Methodist church because their churches are too small (certainly the Episcopal churches in my neck of the woods are small and getting smaller still).
You're Freepers. You know how to think. Please don't make any gorean leaps of (ill)logic.
The "United" modifier was not a modifier at all, but a reflection of the merger between the Evangelical United Brethren and the Methodist Church. It has nothing to do with political correctness, which didn't even exist at the time of the merger. The Evangelical United Brethren were essentially German speaking Methodists who finally assimilated to the U.S. and no longer spoke German.
WVNan, you are bang on.
I even found somethig abour Chief Wahoo (the Cleveland Indian’s mascot).. What in blazes does Chief Wahoo have to do wit the day-to-day operations of the UMC?
That document is about 75% leftist nonsense.
Even if I can't spell Gospel. My fingers are tired. Mea culpa.
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