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Posted on 12/04/2007 8:49:42 AM PST by NYer
I just taught a class on this movie....... Pullman seems to be a very hate-filled man.......
This movie does not appeal to me at all.......
Pullman is an evil man and a vicious anti-Catholic bigot, and no Christian should give that man a dime.
Thanks for posting this. It made me realize some of the roots of Herbert’s “Dune” as well.
There are definite parallels between Nietzsche’s work and these books, but some of the points in this article are a stretch.
Until I read the mainstream reviews, I was considering taking my little kids to see this movie. Then I learned of the author’s militant atheism. I waffled. Then I read the reviews that say most of the anti-religious tone was not very readily apparent, because the movie was poorly done and disjointed. So I figured, the kids might still like the CGI animals, etc, the “Narnianess” of it. Then I read about some of the brutal fight scenes in it. So that did it, I probably will NOT take the kids to this movie, even if I think the atheism would go over their heads, I think the suckage of the movie, plus at least one graphically violent scene at the end, makes it a no-go.
Interesting.
I read the first in the series, which most have agreed is well written. Parts of even it bothered me, though.
Couldn’t get more than a few dozen pages into the second book, as the subtext became increasingly more obvious.
What I find most intriguing is the fact that the lust for power to dominate others, presented by Pullman (at least according to this reviewer) as the ultimate good, is portrayed by Tolkien in the Lord of the Rings as the ultimate evil from which all others spring. The Ring itself is the embodiment of coercion and domination. In LOTR the good guys don’t force others to follow them even when it looks like doing so might be necessary to defeat absolute evil.
“You know, Nietzsche tells us that out of chaos comes order.” - Howard Johnson
“Blow it out your ass Howard.” - Olsen Johnson
As I have said, if there is a skull and crossbones on the package of rat poison, do I really need to eat it to know it is bad for me?
Nietzsche: “God is dead.”
God: “Nietzsche is dead.”
There’s a lot if islamic subtext in the “Dune” nooks. Not subtle at all.
“Howard Johnson is right!”
Darth Vader had a lust for power, as well. In the beginning, it was to use that power for the greater good. Given time, that power became all that mattered, until it controlled him. A parable for our times, surely.
Nietzsche: “God is dead.”
God: “Nietzsche is dead.”
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All I want for Christmas is for one person who posts the above to actually know the context in which Nietzsche first wrote “God is dead”.
Hint: It was an observation.
Does might make right - or does right make might?
I think you have me confused with someone else! I wouldn’t give a dime to my enemy and to the enemy of what I hold dear.
reference for the forum...about the article’s author:
Mark T. Newman
http://www.movieministry.com/about.php
Newman terms himself a “film interpreter” (not a critic).
Looks to me like he’s trying to fill a slightly different niche than
Ted Baehr (sp?) who comments on film a lot from a Christian worldview.
But Newman seems to be going a bit further in a deeper examination of
film themes and concepts.
As I understand it, Nietsche was commenting on the fact that Europeans no longer modified their conduct from fear of God.
IOW, while belief was still publicly pronounced, people behaved as if God was dead.
I believe he was right in this observation. Of course, since then in Europe even the public proclamation of belief has disappeared. In America, we may now be somewhere around where Europe was when Nietzsche wrote.
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