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Canadians should brace for coldest winter in almost 15 years: forecast
The Canadian Press ^ | November 30, 2007 | Michael Oliveira

Posted on 11/30/2007 1:55:35 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA

TORONTO - After years of warmer-than-normal winters that spurred constant talk of global warming, winter this year is expected to be the coldest in almost 15 years and should remind everyone of what real Canadian cold feels like, Environment Canada said Friday.

With the exception of only small pockets of northern Canada and southwestern Ontario, this December through February is forecast to be one of the harshest winters in recent memory across the country, said senior climatologist David Phillips.

"It is somewhat remarkable that we're seeing the same situation from coast to coast to almost coast - from Vancouver Island to Bonavista, Nfld., we're showing the country as being colder than normal," Phillips said.

"The last time Canada had a significantly cold winter was back in 1994, more than a decade ago, and this may very well rival that one in terms of coldness."

1994 started with a bang of winter weather and Canadians across the country shivered through temperatures as cold as -42C - and that was before factoring in the wind chill.

Environment Canada's forecast for precipitation suggests much of the country is due for normal amounts of snow, although some cities could get more than usual, including Calgary, Regina and Toronto, which infamously called in the army in January 1999 to deal with a heavy snowfall.

The precipitation forecasts are less reliable, but Phillips said a colder winter would likely result in a lot of white Christmases across the country - defined as two centimetres of snow on the ground at 7 a.m. on Christmas Day.

Even if the forecasts don't hold true, Phillips said the weather will almost certainly be worse than the last couple years for much of the country.

Last year, a number of traditionally cold and snow-covered cities like Quebec City, Ottawa and Timmins, Ont., had a green Christmas for the first time in decades.

And places like Moncton, all of Prince Edward Island and Toronto had only two-thirds of their normal snowfall.

If there is a bright side to the gloomy forecast that most Canadians will probably curse, it's that snow and cold in the winter is good for the economy, Phillips said.

When Canadians see snow outside their windows they'll likely get into the Christmas spirit and start shopping, he said. And others will see the snow and make immediate plans to head south.

"I always think it's good for the economy when weather is behaving like it should, when winters are cold and summers are hot," Phillips said.

"With the Canadian dollar the way it is and with this colder than normal weather, it very well may be that the busiest people in the country are travel agents."

Phillips said the forecast for cold weather is being triggered in part by La Nina, a period of lower than normal temperatures in the Pacific Ocean.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algoreisnotmypope; beer; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingscare; globullwarming; goreisanidiot; junkscience; newiceage; soothsayers; weather
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But, but, but -- what about global warming? Don't fret, the GW alarmists have that covered -- this is just an example of "climate change". Clearly, a cold winter proves global warming is happening -- if you can't figure that out, then you must be a denier!

Notice how they mention La Nina as a probable cause -- but, when we have a warm winter, it's because of "global warming" -- not El Niño.

1 posted on 11/30/2007 1:55:40 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Well, this should be good for the Ice Road. “Ice Road Truckers” is one of my favorite History Channel series.


2 posted on 11/30/2007 1:56:51 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Ping


3 posted on 11/30/2007 1:58:04 PM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: fanfan

Your list, for.


4 posted on 11/30/2007 1:58:55 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I’m glad I put a block heater in my car this summer...


5 posted on 11/30/2007 1:58:55 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: hsalaw

They should invite the pompous windbag Algore up for a week. I’d like to see 300 pounds moving down the ice...


6 posted on 11/30/2007 1:59:02 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: hsalaw

Yeah baby! Colder temperature = greater weight per axle! Let’s rock!


7 posted on 11/30/2007 2:00:15 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

What year was the major ice storm up there that took down all the high line towers runnning into one of the big cities?

Saw a show on History or National Geographic about it. After the first couple of days up there things were starting to look a little grim.


8 posted on 11/30/2007 2:02:09 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Must be caused by global warming.


9 posted on 11/30/2007 2:02:47 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: mvpel

I lived in the far north for decades & I had a block heater, oil pan heater, electric battery blanket and interior warmer. When I moved to Victoria, people would ask me about the plugs sticking out from the grill of my SUV — they thought it was an electric vehicle.


10 posted on 11/30/2007 2:04:41 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Impossible!!! The globe is warming. This news agency is wacked!!! lol.


11 posted on 11/30/2007 2:05:11 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I wonder if that means the northern US will be colder or warmer than usual? Could be warmer down here, if this forecast means that the jet stream will keep the artic air mass up north over Canada.


12 posted on 11/30/2007 2:05:45 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

AlGore says no!


13 posted on 11/30/2007 2:06:02 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Well, it’s in the forties and raining here in SoCal, and we should have below freezing temps over the weekend.


14 posted on 11/30/2007 2:06:59 PM PST by Argus
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Opps, I forgot to mention the trickle charger mounted next to the battery. (A partially discharged battery will freeze in no time, at 50 below — even with a blanket.)


15 posted on 11/30/2007 2:08:06 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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"Winter's here, so stock up on beer early and often"

16 posted on 11/30/2007 2:08:50 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: hsalaw

That!, takes some cojones!


17 posted on 11/30/2007 2:09:32 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: All
"Canadians should brace for coldest winter in almost 15 years: forecast"

"Do not listen to lies from the mouth of the Satan Media!"


18 posted on 11/30/2007 2:10:09 PM PST by avacado
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

That cold wave is bad news for Canada.

First, Canada is threatened by old beer refrigerators:
Study: Canadian Beer Drinkers Threaten Planet
Fox News ^ | November 29, 2007
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1932415/posts

Now there’ll be concern about making sure the beer doesn’t freeze!


19 posted on 11/30/2007 2:10:30 PM PST by VOA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Actually it's a double confirmation of global warming. South America -- Argentina, Chile, Bolivia -- also had 100-year record cold weather last winter (our summer).
20 posted on 11/30/2007 2:10:40 PM PST by AZLiberty (President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA; SAJ

Of course, nat gas gets pummeled on the news.....right?


21 posted on 11/30/2007 2:10:45 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This post sold by weight, not volume. Content may have settled during shipment.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Bush's fault!
22 posted on 11/30/2007 2:12:33 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: PeteB570
Check out "The Weather," a PBS series from a few years back. The section on cold is pretty wild. At one point, the host is in a refrigerated chamber in a pair of shorts and sandals. They drop the temperture to around zero, I think. He lasts maybe 1/2 before hypothermia kicks in, and it's not pretty. Later on, there is a bit about the ice storm.
23 posted on 11/30/2007 2:15:44 PM PST by Othniel (Mohammad: False Prophet and Smeghead Deluxe....)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Over Thanksgiving we had snow falling for two days and very low temps....my smart-alick son said he didn’t know how much more global warming he could stand.
24 posted on 11/30/2007 2:17:28 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: 1rudeboy; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; conniew; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ..
Thanks 1rudeboy!

I think. ;-)


25 posted on 11/30/2007 2:18:36 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

you should see the canadian licensed cars down here in socal!


26 posted on 11/30/2007 2:19:01 PM PST by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: PeteB570
What year was the major ice storm up there that took down all the high line towers runnning into one of the big cities?

January 1998. Mostly Ottawa and Montreal.

Power was out for up to 3 weeks depending on how rural your property was.

I was without power for 6 days.

27 posted on 11/30/2007 2:21:30 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: VOA
Now there’ll be concern about making sure the beer doesn’t freeze!

That is why we needed a beer fridge.

28 posted on 11/30/2007 2:23:27 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

Let’s see if the Canadian Winter Weather forecasters are any better than American Hurricane forecasters at what they do..........Ya’ll might have a heat wave........


29 posted on 11/30/2007 2:26:24 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: fanfan
And the ice wasn’t just on the wires. Relatives in Ottawa had to evacuate after their power went out — they drove to visit other relatives for the duration. It was a harrowing experience; and they had a lifetime of experience driving on snow and ice, plus good snow tires.
30 posted on 11/30/2007 2:26:39 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: fanfan; PeteB570

“I was without power for 6 days.”

Eight days at home for us; four days at the office. We were lucky at home as we have a gas hot water heater so at least we had that. Towards the end it was getting a bit grim. I remember the sound of the trees coming down, sounded like field pieces going off and for the first couple of days we had regular green flashes of light as transformers exploded.


31 posted on 11/30/2007 2:27:22 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Red Badger
Good point.

We know that 3 day forecasts are suspect — but 100 year forecasts are solid (if done by Al Gore and the UN). Seasonal forecasts should be less accurate than 100 year ones, and more accurate than 3 day forecasts.

< /end deranged Goreian babble >

32 posted on 11/30/2007 2:29:55 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: mvpel
I’m glad I put a block heater in my car this summer...

As long as you're running a cord out there.......Consider adding an electric heating blanket too. They can be purchased on ebay for not much money, and install easily.

The difference of a warm battery is amazing.

33 posted on 11/30/2007 2:33:21 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Here’s my prediction for Canadian Winter:

It’s gonna be very cold.

Here’s my prediction for Florida Winter:

It’s gonna be warmer than Canada’s...............


34 posted on 11/30/2007 2:34:48 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger
.Ya’ll might have a heat wave........

I read today that Environment Canada has a 46% correct forecast rate. That's less than a guess.

A heat wave would be nice as long as we don't get any freezing rain. I LIKE electricity.

35 posted on 11/30/2007 2:35:46 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

New Song:

I’m dreaming of a white Easter,
Just like the ones I used to know......


36 posted on 11/30/2007 2:37:44 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
And the ice wasn’t just on the wires. Relatives in Ottawa had to evacuate after their power went out — they drove to visit other relatives for the duration. It was a harrowing experience; and they had a lifetime of experience driving on snow and ice, plus good snow tires.

At the time, we kept our wood pile under a 100 foot pine. One of us would run over and grab some wood, and the other would keep an eye on the tree for falling branches. LOL.

37 posted on 11/30/2007 2:38:12 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

“That is why we needed a beer fridge.”

I think you’ve found a way to play with the minds (?) of the enviro-extremists.

Tell them that “part of the year, it’s NOT a beer fridge...
it’s an ESSENTIAL beer DEFROSTER!”.


38 posted on 11/30/2007 2:38:52 PM PST by VOA
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To: napscoordinator
Can there be any doubt this is just part of another insidious misinformation campaign?


39 posted on 11/30/2007 2:39:03 PM PST by Iron Munro ( (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.))
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
I lived in the far north for decades & I had a block heater, oil pan heater, electric battery blanket and interior warmer.

Also popular in the colder areas of Canada ... car ports, or unattached garages. Car owners didn't want their vehicles to thaw out ... rather keep the underside frozen up to prevent rust. A good block heater, electric battery blanket guaranteed a reasonably quick start up in the AM. An aside, I remember going to school when the temperature was minus 40F ... where I live now a snowflake or two drift down and school openings are delayed or school is canceled ... unbelievable.

40 posted on 11/30/2007 2:39:21 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: Argus

I’m here in SoCal too....want to go out and dance in the rain. I couldn’t believe my ears this morning at 3am when it started...RAIN!!!


41 posted on 11/30/2007 2:41:07 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Hoping my 'carbon footprint' has crushed a few liberals)
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To: PeteB570

April 1997. Power lines down all over N. Dakota and Minnesota, too. Winds 70 MPH, temps -20F, for almost four whole days. The storm was blizzard Hannah—the eighth blizzard of the winter, each one of which set a record for severity on the dates it occurred. The Grand Forks flood and fire occurred a month later when the record snow melted quickly in early May.


42 posted on 11/30/2007 2:41:12 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Kolokotronis
I remember the sound of the trees coming down, sounded like field pieces going off and for the first couple of days we had regular green flashes of light as transformers exploded.

Us too. On the second day, a tree fell on our phone line, and Bell said it would be weeks before they could get to us.

Luckily, I saw a Bell truck on our street the next day.

I bribed them with hot chocolate, and they had the line fixed in under 15 mins.

Towards the end it was getting a bit grim.

Tell me. We lost power Monday morning, and then it came back on Wed. afternoon. We all had showers, and started to relax, when it went off again until Saturday.

43 posted on 11/30/2007 2:43:39 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Conservative4Ever

It’s just starting to break up here but we got a good long soak and it’s great. Hope it’s the harbinger of much more to come, knock wood.


44 posted on 11/30/2007 2:44:36 PM PST by Argus
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To: VOA

Exackery!


45 posted on 11/30/2007 2:45:10 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Global warming strikes again...


46 posted on 11/30/2007 2:45:56 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: Cicero
I wonder if that means the northern US will be colder or warmer than usual?

FWIW, we actually had very vivid COLORS in the leaves down here in Central Alabama this year, and that is usually an indicator of a cold winter for us. SO, if it is cold in Canada and Cold in the south, chances are it will be cold in between.

47 posted on 11/30/2007 2:46:05 PM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: hsalaw

Same here. I love Ice Road Truckers.


48 posted on 11/30/2007 2:46:10 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: Conservative4Ever

Mud slides next


49 posted on 11/30/2007 2:49:34 PM PST by Waco
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To: commish
FWIW, we actually had very vivid COLORS in the leaves down here in Central Alabama this year, and that is usually an indicator of a cold winter for us. SO, if it is cold in Canada and Cold in the south, chances are it will be cold in between.

Interesting. I realized the same thing about North Texas. Normally we get green and brown leaves. This year I saw red, yellow, gold, light brown, black .... reminded me of DC in the fall.

50 posted on 11/30/2007 2:51:53 PM PST by Centurion2000 (False modesty is as great a sin as false pride.)
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