Ragnhild Karlsson
Posted on 11/30/2007 10:26:00 AM PST by WesternCulture
Two Swedish women who want to be allowed go topless in the nation's swimming pools have had their case rejected by Sweden's equality watchdog.
A ruling released on Friday underlined that women's bodies were different from men's:
"There is a physical difference between a woman's upper body and that of a man," said Equal Opportunities Ombudsman Anne-Marie Bergström.
"There is also a great difference between how people in general perceive men's and women's bodies. It is therefore hard to maintain that [the topless bathers] were in a comparable situation to men who bathed with naked upper bodies."
Ragnhild Karlsson, 22, who brought the case, told The Local on Friday that she was unsurprised by the ruling:
"Of course we are disappointed, but I understand that from a legal perspective they can't pursue this case. Still, I think it's sad that society is the way it is - that men don't have to cover their upper bodies but women do," she said.
The case reached the watchdog in September after Karlsson and her friend Kristin Karlsson, 21, went for a topless swim at the Fyrishov swimming pool in Uppsala.
A female lifeguard caught sight of the pair and told to put their tops back on or leave the pool. They chose to leave the pool.
The women complained to the ombudsman, saying that if men can show their chests, women should be allowed to do so as well.
But the watchdog said different rules were applied to men and women in most cultures:
"Women's bodies have more often been the subject sexually objectification, decrees and dress-codes. In our society, the female body is sexualized in a way that the male body is not. This is demonstrated in pornography and in parts of the rest of the media."
Bergström said that the fact that women's bodies were objectified "is a sign of a lack of equality and hampers the process of building an equal society."
Despite rejecting the women's case, Bergström it was good that they had raised the question:
"The case has achieved a lot of attention and it is good that we can have a discussion about unequal rules for the bodies of men and women."
The women behind the protest say they are pleased with their campaign, despite Friday's verdict.
The case has provoked "lots of positive reactions," said Karlsson. One result has been the 'Bara Bröst' network, which campaigns for women's breasts to be 'desexualized'. The name translates both as both as 'Bare Breasts' and 'Just Breasts'.
"We've had a few negative reactions too," she added.
"There have been quite a few un-serious comments from men who say 'this is OK for attractive women, but not for ugly women," she said.
Karlsson pointed out that men can walk around bare-chested "no matter what they look like." She also pointed out that they want topless bathing to be "an individual decision."
"We're not saying that everyone should go topless."
Meanwhile, the campaign for equality is set to continue.
"We are going to pursue this through political means," said Karlsson.
“”There is a physical difference between a woman’s upper body and that of a man,” said Equal Opportunities Ombudsman Anne-Marie Bergström.”
- In Sweden and probably in the rest of today’s world, there’s a lack of equal opportunities for receiving a well paid job that consists in making incompetent investigations into non-existing problems.
I demand to see the evidence!....................
Rules.
I’ve seen their picture and they’re guitly as sin!
Trust me....you DON’T want to see the evidence.
So they should wear a t-shirt? Someone will complain about the wet t-shirts then...
No you don’t. Trust me on this one.
In the 70’s, a friend of mine spent time in Sweden. She said topless sun bathing seemed to be the norm in Sweden. A influx of immigrants has shifted the paradigm somewhat
There is a physical difference between the neck of a man and woman. Burquas for all.
Ragnhild Karlsson
No (fill in your favorite profanity)________ Sherlock...........
I was completely behind them on this. In a manner of speaking.
BE WARNED:
- You CAN find images of these female protestors by clicking the keywords above, but you will not find them appealing.
No you don’t.
So these lesbians are saying that they are not sexually aroused by naked breasts???
I'm from Missouri so show me! Well, I am not really from Missouri but I still want to see the evidence.
I’d hit it..... with a burning golf shoe.
Unless you're into women who look like surly 12 year old boys.
Thanks for the warning.
or a Mack truck.
I wonder if anyone has noticed tht there is also a slight difference between the lower bodies, too?
Foto: Rolf Hamilton Ragnhild Karlsson och Kristin Karlsson.
One result has been the ‘Bara Bröst’ network, which campaigns for women’s breasts to be ‘desexualized’”
I can think of few causes which would deserve less support than this one....
At one end of the spectrum there is hedonism. At the other end of the spectrum there is Wahhabist fascism.
In the middle, between the extremes, there is common decency and modesty.
This is a victory for moderation, and for the Swedish parents who would like to take their young children to the pool without having to subject them to a substandard Playboy pictorial.
Much better looking than the real women in question.
Looks like (s)he could be Jerry O’Connell’s little brother.
Not these two you don’t!
put her back in! she aint done yet!!
That skinny one would make for a VERY substandard pictorial.
Not all of them, where do you think I found it?
Original is here though for those wanting a source.
http://www2.unt.se/article/1,1786,MC=77-AV_ID=654366,00.html?from=most_read
OKAY, WHICH ONE’S THE GUY?...................
I’d don’t think even DreamWorks would take on that picture airbrushing.
A chick named Rolf?
No, a photographer named Rolf Hamilton .
Some years ago here in Rochester, NY we had the “Topfree Seven” win their case to go topless. Needless to say, they would do humanity a favor by leaving them on.
PS: Colour me surprised. Did the equal opportunities Ombudsperson really say this: "There is a physical difference between a woman's upper body and that of a man". That's a giant leap for sanity.
Oh, I thought Rolf Hamilton was sweedish for 'thin faced female swine". My apologies.
Well I could post a picture of my Swede/Finn wife in a tube top, but then you’d all be running around with your hormones rage’n
I was going to just suggest they move to Austin Texas where it
IS legal for women to bathe topless at our municipal pools but after seeing the photo of them......never mind!
“I was going to just suggest they move to Austin Texas where it IS legal for women to bathe topless at our municipal pools”
- One day, Texas will be Sweden and Sweden will Texas.
This is the meny of a very popular restaurant in my home city, Gothenburg/Göteborg (and it’s not exactly the only wannabe texan ‘steakhouse’ over here):
http://www.restaurangguiden.com/gbg/linnesta/texaslonghorn/grillRG.aspx
I’m gonna have to side with the women on this one.
In the words of John Candy in the Movie Splash, when Tom Hanks asked him what he thought about women appearing naked in public? “I’m for it of course.”
Tell them to come to TEXAS! Female toplessness is 100% legal, ALL the time, ANYWHERE in public.
“Tell them to come to TEXAS! Female toplessness is 100% legal, ALL the time, ANYWHERE in public.”
- Are Vikings who enjoy good steaks allowed to enter as well?
Texas is a part of the US I really would like to experience.
Regards.
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