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Retired U.S. commander speaks out for Democrats
Reuters ^ | Nov 24 | Randall Mikkelsen

Posted on 11/24/2007 6:11:38 PM PST by Aristotelian

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The general who led U.S. forces in Iraq after the invasion launched by Republican President George W. Bush spoke out for Democrats on Saturday, backing legislation aimed at withdrawing American troops.

Retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, in the Democratic weekly radio address, acknowledged that Bush's escalation strategy this year had improved security in Iraq. But he said Iraqi political leaders had failed to make "hard choices necessary to bring peace to their country."

"There is no evidence that the Iraqis will choose to do so in the near future or that we have an ability to force that result," said Sanchez, an increasingly vocal critic of what he called Bush administration policy failures in Iraq.

He endorsed the latest attempt by Democrats in the House of Representatives to use Iraq-war funding legislation to push for a reduction of U.S. troops. . . .

But Sanchez urged a rapid cut in the U.S. military presence by shifting the troops' main mission away from combat, and he said the House measure "makes the proper preparation" for a troop reduction.

"It is well past time to adopt a new approach in Iraq that will improve chances to produce stability in the Middle East," he said. "I urge our political leaders to put aside partisan considerations and unite to lessen the burden our troops and their families have been under for nearly five years." ...

Sanchez commanded the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq from June 2003 until July 2004 as the anti-U.S. insurgency took hold. He retired in 2006 and blamed the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal for wrecking his career.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: radioaddress; ricardosanchez; sanchezclark; surrendercrat
Sounds like he's making a down payment on a safe Democratic House seat come next November.
1 posted on 11/24/2007 6:11:39 PM PST by Aristotelian
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To: Aristotelian
I bet if he’d been endorsing the Republicans, the reporter would have managed to fit a reference to Abu Ghraib in the lead paragraph.
2 posted on 11/24/2007 6:13:37 PM PST by Aristotelian
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To: Aristotelian
Sanchez was responsible for a lot the problems we had.

Petreaus had corrected it.

Sanchez is a failure. I am glad he retired.

3 posted on 11/24/2007 6:17:12 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Aristotelian

Gosh, since leftists claim we’ve killed a million innocent Iraqis, I’d love to ask him how he sleeps at night knowing he’s “responsible”.


4 posted on 11/24/2007 6:17:41 PM PST by boop (Who doesn't love poison pot pies?)
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To: Aristotelian

When is his BOOK coming out?


5 posted on 11/24/2007 6:18:57 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: Jet Jaguar

Jet Jaguar wrote:
“Sanchez was responsible for a lot the problems we had.

Petreaus had corrected it.

Sanchez is a failure. I am glad he retired.”

Wasn’t he in charge during the Abu Ghraib fiasco? More importantly, what makes him an expert on the current situation in Iraq? Is he still getting daily briefings from the commanders in the field? I think not.

The MSM is only making him a big deal because he’s opposed to the administration. If he was speaking in favor of the war, you wouldn’t hear a peep about him.


6 posted on 11/24/2007 6:19:56 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: Aristotelian
Hoping for a cushy position in the Defense Department when Hillary takes control?
7 posted on 11/24/2007 6:21:05 PM PST by kempo (I)
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To: CitizenUSA

True.


8 posted on 11/24/2007 6:23:03 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Aristotelian
he said Iraqi political leaders had failed to make "hard choices necessary to bring peace to their country."

Don't you just love these generals that know all about politics, and these politicians that know all about war.

You really have to wonder if their true talents haven't been wasted.

9 posted on 11/24/2007 6:24:00 PM PST by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I’m glad he retired. I’d be happier if he had been fired first.


10 posted on 11/24/2007 6:26:12 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Mitt is a political Kama Sutra)
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To: Aristotelian
"He retired in 2006 and blamed the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal for wrecking his career. "

Well, DUH!

11 posted on 11/24/2007 6:28:12 PM PST by matthew fuller (Crop-circles, killer rabbits and UFO'S are caused by GLOBAL WARMING!)
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To: CitizenUSA
The MSM is only making him a big deal because he’s opposed to the administration. If he was speaking in favor of the war, you wouldn’t hear a peep about him.

Well said...The MSM has been covering every word he's said since he spoke out against the Iraq policy. Sour grapes, IMO.

12 posted on 11/24/2007 6:29:52 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Sanchez is a failure. I am glad he retired.

He should have been fired. Anyone more concerned about their troops not wearing seatbelts in a combat zone than actually defeating the enemy should have been shipped home the first minute he berated an officer in front of his soldiers for not wearing his seatbelt.

13 posted on 11/24/2007 6:31:09 PM PST by FreedomCalls (Texas: "We close at five.")
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To: Aristotelian
Sanchez commanded the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq from June 2003 until July 2004 as the anti-U.S. insurgency took hold. He retired in 2006 and blamed the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal for wrecking his career.

Well, things certainly got better after he "retired". I guess he is looking for a sympathetic crowd. Or maybe just a pathetic crowd.

14 posted on 11/24/2007 6:32:23 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Aristotelian

Sanchez was a CLintonista liberal affirmative action promotion who accomplished nothing in Iraq, retired below his inflated self-image due to Abu Ghraib, and now has a big axe to grind. He is of the Weasely Clark school of sucking up to Demagogues at the expense of the military. Can anyone imagine he would be getting any MSM attention if he leaned conservative and was calling for Congress and the MSM to stop weakening the war effort?? If a retired general were speaking out in staunch support of General Petraeus and the great progress in Iraq it would be ignored by the MSM, of course.


15 posted on 11/24/2007 6:32:50 PM PST by Enchante (Democrat terror-fighting motto: "BLEAT - CHEAT - RETREAT - DEFEAT")
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To: FreedomCalls

Bump to your post.


16 posted on 11/24/2007 6:32:53 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: FreedomCalls

“I know that these new combat units have good leaders and troops,” says a senior sergeant who has been in Iraq for 10 months. “But the higher-ups are pushing them to be passive and not take the fight to the enemy. The rest of the bad news is what we call the ‘Colonel West Syndrome.’ For example, the other night when we were conducting a raid, a target was standing behind a steel door as our guys breached it, and the door smacked him in the face and messed up his head. When we turned him into the detention center, the MPs there accused us of abusing this clown, kicking off an investigation that got pretty ugly.”

“Gen. Sanchez tore up my very-squared-away battalion commander for not wearing his Hummer seat belt,” says another sergeant who’s now finishing up a tour with a parachute brigade — the famed 173rd Airborne — that made a hairy night-combat jump into Bashur at the beginning of the war and has been in the thick of it ever since.

“Hello? Where has this general been?” asked the sergeant. “The terrorists over here have a bad habit of shooting at us — we have to be able to unass our vehicles in a hurry.”

From your link.


17 posted on 11/24/2007 6:35:08 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: FreedomCalls

UNREAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


“Gen. Sanchez tore up my very-squared-away battalion commander for not wearing his Hummer seat belt,” says another sergeant who’s now finishing up a tour with a parachute brigade — the famed 173rd Airborne — that made a hairy night-combat jump into Bashur at the beginning of the war and has been in the thick of it ever since.

“Hello? Where has this general been?” asked the sergeant. “The terrorists over here have a bad habit of shooting at us — we have to be able to unass our vehicles in a hurry.”

No question that battling guerrillas requires an exceptionally disciplined force and that parade-ground regs don’t extend longevity on a guerrilla battlefield. The brass need to get down and talk to their fine noncoms quick smart. The sergeants know how to keep up the initiative — while keeping U.S. casualties down.


18 posted on 11/24/2007 6:35:50 PM PST by Enchante (Democrat terror-fighting motto: "BLEAT - CHEAT - RETREAT - DEFEAT")
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To: kempo
Hoping for a cushy position in the Defense Department when Hillary takes control?

What defense department?

19 posted on 11/24/2007 6:39:49 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: BallyBill

BallyBill wrote: “I guess he is looking for a sympathetic crowd. Or maybe just a pathetic crowd.”

He certainly found the latter—Democrats.


20 posted on 11/24/2007 6:44:51 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: Aristotelian

What’s interesting about these Reuters articles is, the juicy parts claimed in the headlines are never in quotes. We get the “he said” stuff from the writer but no relevant quotes. Plenty of quotes here but all the relevant stuff is “he said” without actual quotes. Propaganda 101.


21 posted on 11/24/2007 6:57:18 PM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Aristotelian
Sanchez needs the war to fail to redeem himself.

If it were to succeed after he was removed it would put the blame for the failure up to that point on him for all of history.

And why should anyone listen to the man responsible for Abu Ghraib, which did more damage to the cause and our international standing than anything else that happened during the war to date?

22 posted on 11/24/2007 7:01:47 PM PST by DB
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To: Jet Jaguar

Exactly. Sanchez fumbled the ball, and now he’s pointing fingers. What a cockroach.


23 posted on 11/24/2007 7:05:42 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Aristotelian

When he says the Iraqi legislature has proven unwilling and unable to make the necessary hard choices, I am sure he must be comparing them to the highly capable, competent and productive democratic Congress here in the United States.

snicker snicker


24 posted on 11/24/2007 7:20:58 PM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: Aristotelian

“If General McClellan does not want to use the army, I would like to borrow it for a time.”

—Abraham Lincoln


25 posted on 11/24/2007 7:33:48 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Enchante

If a retired general were speaking out in staunch support of General Petraeus and the great progress in Iraq it would be ignored by the MSM, of course.

Speaking of that subject. Has the MSM been trotting out any quotes from Gen. Tommy Franks lately?

Chirp, chirp.

26 posted on 11/24/2007 7:36:14 PM PST by dancusa (For liberals there is no end to their rights and no beginning to their responsibilities.)
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To: Aristotelian
Sanchez commanded the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq from June 2003 until July 2004 as the anti-U.S. insurgency took hold.

Cause and effect.

27 posted on 11/24/2007 7:42:21 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.)
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To: Aristotelian
But he said Iraqi political leaders had failed to make "hard choices necessary to bring peace to their country."...'Rats can continue to make this phony claim 'til they're blue in the face, but the basic fact is that Sunnis and Shia are now working more and more closely with each other to evict Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups from control in Iraq - once we finally hit the critical point where Iraqis felt secure enough to turn against the terrorists instead of cowering, cooperation and even some cordiality between these two formerly warring groups marks real political progress beyond that determined by some arbitrary "benchmarks" set up by the bureaucrats.......
28 posted on 11/24/2007 9:01:11 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Aristotelian

A true McClellan.


29 posted on 11/24/2007 9:02:47 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: BallyBill

He’s part of the reason we were losing, that’s why Democrats like him :-)


30 posted on 11/24/2007 9:15:49 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Aristotelian

Ha! Sanchez again. He was another big Bush mistake, but at least Bush did rectify his mistake fairly quickly.


31 posted on 11/24/2007 9:18:46 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: DB
And why should anyone listen to the man responsible for Abu Ghraib, which did more damage to the cause and our international standing than anything else that happened during the war to date?

The Abu Ghraib scandle was created by the RATs and the MSM. If the Abu Ghraib thing was what torpedoed this guy career, then why is he sucking up to the RATs? That's the part I don't understand.

32 posted on 11/25/2007 2:24:01 AM PST by NurdlyPeon (Thompson / Hunter in 2008)
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To: Aristotelian

He endorsed the latest attempt by Democrats in the House of Representatives to use Iraq-war funding legislation

Lack of loyalty to the American Troops, even Rep. Walz(Mn, D), retired Command Sergeant Major, 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion got wise about being loyal once,

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10634318

June 1, 2007

Walz went ahead last week and voted for the supplemental war funding. At events back in Walz’s district during the Memorial Day break, many of Walz’s constituents agreed with his votes.


33 posted on 11/25/2007 3:04:07 AM PST by Son House ($$Proud Member of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: Aristotelian
"He blamed the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal for wrecking his career."

I'm sure. And his failure to support the Commander-in-Chief's policies was not a factor.

34 posted on 11/25/2007 5:53:17 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: Aristotelian

When I knew “Major” Sanchez here in Panama (we both worked out of DCSIM), he wanted to leave the military, go back to Texas, and go into politics. I never asked him what side he was on. For one thing, I didn’t think it was proper. I don’t know why. Now I know what side he’s on. For some reason, it does not surprise me. It had nothing to do with what he said or did. It was just a gut feeling.


35 posted on 11/25/2007 5:58:07 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Aristotelian
Retired U.S. commander speaks out for Democrats


36 posted on 11/25/2007 6:13:32 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Enchante
“Gen. Sanchez tore up my very-squared-away battalion commander for not wearing his Hummer seat belt,” says another sergeant who’s now finishing up a tour with a parachute brigade — the famed 173rd Airborne — that made a hairy night-combat jump into Bashur at the beginning of the war and has been in the thick of it ever since.

“Hello? Where has this general been?” asked the sergeant. “The terrorists over here have a bad habit of shooting at us — we have to be able to unass our vehicles in a hurry.”

It seems that the General was far away from the realities of the battlefield.

General Sanchez once again mirrors George B. McClelland. During the Battle of Malvern Hill, when the Union Army was fighting for its life with its back against the James River, McClelland was on the gunboat USS Galena which, at one point during the fighting, was 10 miles down river.


37 posted on 11/25/2007 6:28:22 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius

Wearing a seatbelt was the only one who survived Princess Diana’s car crash. He was their security guard. And...He was the one who was NOT suppose to wear a seatbelt so he could get out of the car quickly. He was no dummy. As the car was speeding out of control, he locked in.

I see the General’s point. If a military vehicle were to crash or rollover, how many would survive without their seat belts? He probably saved many lives.

I’m on his side.

He always worried about his troops.


38 posted on 11/25/2007 10:05:14 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Aristotelian
Bush gave soooooo damn many chances to Lesser-Thans in order to foster goodwill and what do they do...BITE HIM in the ASS!

WHAT kind of Commander tells the ENEMY what their TIMETABLE is??? IDIOT!

39 posted on 11/25/2007 10:07:36 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Seatbelts aren’t the issue, the issue is that General Sanchez didn’t get the job done and now he’s trying to see to it that General Patraeus has a harder time getting the job done, just like every other left wing loon in this country. His MO is exactly the same, destructive criticism laced with Bush derangment syndrome.


40 posted on 11/25/2007 10:12:11 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Wearing a seatbelt was the only one who survived Princess Diana’s car crash. He was their security guard. And...He was the one who was NOT suppose to wear a seatbelt so he could get out of the car quickly. He was no dummy. As the car was speeding out of control, he locked in. I see the General’s point. If a military vehicle were to crash or rollover, how many would survive without their seat belts? He probably saved many lives. I’m on his side. He always worried about his troops.

While he "was worried about his troops", he was also out of touch with the changing realities of the battlefield under his command.

What might be of benefit in Place A, Situation 3 might be a real danger in Place D, Situation 2.

In this particualr war, with the tactics of this particular enemy, the troops that were actually in the fighting, day in and day out, and not "in the rear with the gear", have discovered by deadly trial and error that the danger of death by roll-over or after a 60 MPH crash was far less than the danger of death by small arms fire or burning to death after an IED has hit your vehicle because you spent 4 extra seconds fumbling with your seatbelt before you could "de-ass" your vehicle.

Regardles of that point, you DO NOT publicly criticize an officer or an NCO in front of the troops that must trust that officer or NCO with their lives when he leads them into battle.

41 posted on 11/25/2007 10:33:52 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius

I appreciate your comments.

Thank you.

(Can’t type much more. I just cut a finger cooking and there is blood all over the place. My keyboard is becoming flooded with blood. No joke.)


42 posted on 11/25/2007 10:51:41 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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