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Laid-Back Surfer Dude May Be Next Einstein
Fox News ^ | November 19, 2007

Posted on 11/16/2007 2:43:16 PM PST by Zakeet

A surfer dude with no fixed address may be this century's Einstein.

A. Garrett Lisi, a physicist who divides his time between surfing in Maui and teaching snowboarding in Lake Tahoe, has come up with what may be the Grand Unified Theory.

That's the "holy grail" of physics that scientists have been searching for ever since Albert Einstein presented his General Theory of Relativity nearly 100 years ago.

Even more remarkable is that Lisi, who has a Ph.D. but no permanent university affiliation, solves the problem without resorting to exotic dimensions, string theory or exceptionally complex mathematics.

A successful Grand Unified Theory would use a series of equations to show how the four fundamental forces of nature — gravity, electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces — relate to each other.

Electromagnetism and the weak nuclear force, which controls radioactivity, were linked more than 30 years ago, and some progress has been made with linking them to the strong nuclear force, which binds protons together in the atomic nucleus.

But gravity has always been an outlier. Not only have all attempts to link gravity to the other three forces failed, but physicists still can't agree on what gravity actually is or how it works.

Lisi solves this by using the E8 lattice, an eight-dimensional structure visualized earlier this year in a widely circulated paper.

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"The moment this happened my brain exploded with the
implications and the beauty of the thing," Lisi tells New
Scientist magazine. "I thought: 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

1 posted on 11/16/2007 2:43:17 PM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

“And then a tree grew out of my neck”


2 posted on 11/16/2007 2:45:28 PM PST by agere_contra (Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
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To: Zakeet

I’ll get back to you all once I completely understand the E=MC2 thing.


3 posted on 11/16/2007 2:45:33 PM PST by torchthemummy ("A Tagline Presidential Endorsement Forfeits A Presumption Of Objectivity")
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To: torchthemummy

F=MA


4 posted on 11/16/2007 2:47:42 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Zakeet

It’s not a theory of everything unless it can explain women.


5 posted on 11/16/2007 2:48:15 PM PST by DManA
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To: torchthemummy

“I’ll get back to you all once I completely understand the E=MC2 thing.”

Energy = Mass * Number

Number = big


6 posted on 11/16/2007 2:48:34 PM PST by Hunterite
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To: agere_contra

“And then a tree grew out of my neck”

lol


7 posted on 11/16/2007 2:49:00 PM PST by Hunterite
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To: Zakeet

Can this guy tell us the speed of gravity?


8 posted on 11/16/2007 2:49:49 PM PST by Jacquerie (All Muslims are suspect.)
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To: Zakeet

42


9 posted on 11/16/2007 2:51:35 PM PST by OSHA (Liberals will lick the boot on their necks if they think the other boot is on yours and mine.)
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To: Zakeet

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1925926/posts


10 posted on 11/16/2007 2:52:23 PM PST by em2vn
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To: Zakeet

He gives slacker surfer/boarder dudes a good name. I want him for a young relative’s husband.


11 posted on 11/16/2007 2:54:14 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: Zakeet
It is exciting even if you can't understand it *~*

Look at this (what is about)

12 posted on 11/16/2007 2:55:21 PM PST by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTON'S!!!)
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To: OSHA

Ah, yes. 42. The meaning of life.


13 posted on 11/16/2007 2:56:32 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Zakeet

He can call it “Spiccoli’s theory of relativity” If Im here and your here then its “Our time”


14 posted on 11/16/2007 2:58:17 PM PST by racnpartsales4u ("His sex organs took the heaviest blow," an unidentified nurse told the newspaper.)
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To: OSHA

A Babel fish wispered that answer in my ear. Who knew?


15 posted on 11/16/2007 3:00:19 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Zakeet

It sounds as though this character was created by Dean Koontz.


16 posted on 11/16/2007 3:01:52 PM PST by MSF BU
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To: yoe

watching that video makes it seem likely that in addition to surfing, there are also illegal drugs involved in this discovery.


17 posted on 11/16/2007 3:02:10 PM PST by RobFromGa (It's the Spending, Stupid! (not the method of collection))
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To: Jacquerie

Shoot, I can do that. 32ft^sec^sec. Gallileo had that one more or less pegged. Of course, that’s only on Earth.

Relativity came from a patent clerk. Why couldn’t the first plausible GUT (Grand Unification Theory) come from a surfer? A surfer with an earned doctorate in the field. Newton found gravity while napping under an apple tree. Why couldn’t Lisi have his eureka moment while riding a wave?

I’m not signing on to this, but it’s an interesting development, one that I plan to keep watching.


18 posted on 11/16/2007 3:02:11 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Zakeet
but physicists still can't agree on what gravity actually is or how it works.

Gravity is a hole in space.............

19 posted on 11/16/2007 3:04:34 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: ReignOfError
Newton found gravity while napping under an apple tree

I heard he actually fell out of the apple tree.............

20 posted on 11/16/2007 3:05:34 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Zakeet
The moment this happened my brain exploded with the implications and the beauty of the thing," Lisi tells New Scientist magazine. "I thought: 'Holy crap, that's it!

I've had moments like that.
I call it having an intellectual orgasm.
:)
21 posted on 11/16/2007 3:12:00 PM PST by MaryFromMichigan
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Nope, its when the drugs kick in.


22 posted on 11/16/2007 3:13:57 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Jacquerie
Can this guy tell us the speed of gravity?

That (among many ther things, of course) would be required of any T.O.E. Or, alternatively, an explanation of why the question does not make sense.

23 posted on 11/16/2007 3:14:23 PM PST by Erasmus (My simplifying explanation had the disconcerting side effect of making the subject incomprehensible.)
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To: ReignOfError

Psst. I asked for the speed of gravity, not acceleration due to earth’s gravity.

If a mass is created at the far side of the galaxy, how long does it take for the gravity force between that body an our earth to interact? Is is faster or slower than the speed of light?

If I am correctly informed, Hawking hasn’t figured this one out.


24 posted on 11/16/2007 3:15:49 PM PST by Jacquerie
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To: Zakeet

This exciting breakthrough theory of creation is what I have been waiting years to see. Wow!


25 posted on 11/16/2007 3:20:42 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: Erasmus

See #24. The concept is not difficult.


26 posted on 11/16/2007 3:25:17 PM PST by Jacquerie
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To: Zakeet
Interesting. I'm reading Einstein currently. Bookmarked for later reading.
27 posted on 11/16/2007 3:27:08 PM PST by Chipper
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To: Jacquerie
Can this guy tell us the speed of gravity?

probably he's found anti-gravity - a long lost secret


28 posted on 11/16/2007 3:28:14 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Jacquerie
As I understand it, there is a gravitational force between every particle of mass in the universe. How the mass is created at the far side of the universe puzzles me, but, there wouldn’t be a speed of gravity. The attraction of gravity has always existed, since creation itself.
29 posted on 11/16/2007 3:30:21 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Zakeet

Fascinating!


30 posted on 11/16/2007 3:32:49 PM PST by Lord_Calvinus
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To: yoe
Look at this...

The video is mind blowing - does anyone want to take bets on how long it takes to try to debunk/bury this because it has an "inconvenient base pattern"?

Is this another inconvenient case of science and theology coming together?

31 posted on 11/16/2007 3:33:18 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: agere_contra
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
32 posted on 11/16/2007 3:33:25 PM PST by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: fhayek
Mass can be created from energy. E=MC^2. Think big bang.
33 posted on 11/16/2007 3:34:53 PM PST by Jacquerie (Convince me that murderous Islam deserves 1st Amendment protection.)
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To: torchthemummy
E=MC2

Split the atom and go boom.

34 posted on 11/16/2007 3:35:01 PM PST by Petronski (Willardcare abortions $50 each, $25 per twin. Ask for S&H Stamps!)
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To: Zakeet
a Ph.D. but no permanent university affiliation

The secret to his success - no controls

35 posted on 11/16/2007 3:36:09 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Zakeet

bfl


36 posted on 11/16/2007 3:37:19 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Zakeet
I was once working on a grand unifying theory but then I ran out of beer .......
37 posted on 11/16/2007 3:40:01 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: (n) The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: agere_contra

And a white line came out of my butt.

That was funny. Nice one.


38 posted on 11/16/2007 3:44:02 PM PST by mad puppy (I'd rather live a day on my feet than a year on my knees)
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To: Zakeet

Dood. I was doin’a 1080 on the half pipe when it hit me.


39 posted on 11/16/2007 3:46:49 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Zakeet
"The moment this happened my brain exploded with the implications and the beauty of the thing," Lisi tells New Scientist magazine. "I thought: 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

Then he added, "all we are is dust in the wind, dude."

40 posted on 11/16/2007 3:48:19 PM PST by infidel29 (Voting for Paul? Might as well make it Ru Paul, he's got better legs.)
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To: Zakeet
As a physicist, I have always thought the unification theory wouldn’t be any more complex than E=MC^2. God’s scheme wan’t meant to be hard to express, just hard to rationalize.
41 posted on 11/16/2007 3:48:56 PM PST by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: MSF BU

I thought about “Ratty,” from “They Thirst,” too. (Maybe that was McCammon.)


42 posted on 11/16/2007 3:49:01 PM PST by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: Zakeet

The “theory of everything” reminds me of “the set of all sets”.....things that fog up my mind’s windshield.


43 posted on 11/16/2007 3:55:11 PM PST by macamadamia
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To: Zakeet
Archimedes: Eureka!
Newton: Ouch!
Bell: Watson? Is that you? Hello? Speak up! Is anyone there? Is this thing on?
Einstein: I am tinking dat i may be onto somtink here vit de squared thingie.
Lisi: Whoa dude! Sweeeeeeet!
44 posted on 11/16/2007 3:55:22 PM PST by OSHA (Liberals will lick the boot on their necks if they think the other boot is on yours and mine.)
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To: yoe

I just watched the youtube video, and there is no way a human brain came up with that. I bow to Ruxnar, the surfing alien.


45 posted on 11/16/2007 3:59:02 PM PST by Defiant ("Expectorate" has Specter in it.)
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To: Jacquerie
It's easy. We are not connected by gravity to some object far, far away. We are connected by gravity to something that is nearby. And it is connected to us, and things on the other side of us. And those things are connected to nearby objects. And on and on, all the way to the far side of the universe.

At least, that's what I can come up with on 30 seconds pondering.

Actually, I haven't a clue--but you could tell that, couldn't you?

46 posted on 11/16/2007 4:02:20 PM PST by Defiant ("Expectorate" has Specter in it.)
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To: maine-iac7

As long as you are asking questions, I have some: How did they fit everything in the entire universe into a tiny pinpoint before the big bang? What was outside the pinpoint? And how does that turtle manage to keep the entire world on his back?


47 posted on 11/16/2007 4:14:11 PM PST by Defiant ("Expectorate" has Specter in it.)
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To: Erasmus

” Can this guy tell us the speed of gravity?”

The speed of gravity is exactly the speed of light.


48 posted on 11/16/2007 4:16:28 PM PST by Hunterite
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To: Defiant

“It’s easy. We are not connected by gravity to some object far, far away. We are connected by gravity to something that is nearby. And it is connected to us, and things on the other side of us. And those things are connected to nearby objects. And on and on, all the way to the far side of the universe.

At least, that’s what I can come up with on 30 seconds pondering.”

Your guess is as good as anyones. In fact that is what some astrophysicist have postulated, that gravity drops off at galactic distances. Hey the strong nuclear force does it, why not.

This is all crazy and nuts. I hate modern physics.


49 posted on 11/16/2007 4:20:32 PM PST by Hunterite
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To: torchthemummy

Me too. I have no clue.


50 posted on 11/16/2007 4:20:55 PM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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