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Conservative groups blast MD county's 'gender identity' proposal (guys in the girls' restroom)
OneNewsNow ^ | 7 Nov 07 | Jim Brown and Jody Brown

Posted on 11/14/2007 7:59:05 AM PST by xzins

A large Maryland county near Washington, DC, will soon decide whether to declare transgender people a "protected class" under law and become the latest in a growing list of jurisdictions nationally to ban discrimination on the basis of "gender identity and expression."

The Montgomery County Council is scheduled to vote next Tuesday (November 13) on a bill that would add "gender identity" to the county's existing non-discrimination policy. The measure (Bill 23-07) is being pushed by the homosexual activist group Equality Maryland and by three Council members, including one who has a transgendered male staff member.

Two conservatives groups -- Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays (PFOX) and Citizens for a Responsible Curriculum (CRC) -- are protesting the bill. CRC director Michelle Turner says the proposal does not take into consideration the "safety and well-being of women and young girls."

"The proposed bill as it is right now would allow transgenders to use the restroom, shower room, locker room of the gender that they are 'feeling' that day or at that time," she explains. "Meaning a man, if he is 'feeling' like a woman -- even though he still has male genitalia -- would be permitted access to the women's locker room, shower room, and bathroom."

Turner takes issue with the Council's decision to even bring the matter to a vote. "We find it very disconcerting that they would not have any problem with a man, even though dressed as a woman, being in a shower room with women and girls, putting their own safety at risk there," says the CRC director. "We believe that individuals who are going through this are, as the American Psychiatric Association states, suffering from a gender identity disorder."

Dr. Ruth Jacobs, an infectious disease specialist and CRC representative, testified before members of the Council last week, telling them that the American Psychiatric Association recognizes "gender identity disorder" as a mental illness. Jacobs told the Council that no one has studied the long-term effects on children, for example, when early on in their education they are introduced to gender change as something that is normal and healthy. "This bill forces the school to hire a mentally ill person," she stated.

A former transgender from PFOX also testified against the bill at the hearing. According to a press release from PFOX, those opposing the measure have been told that, under the bill, it could be considered "harassment" to challenge a male's entry into a female area.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: harassment; sexuality
This is certainly sexual harassment, but not of the deviant. It creates an intimidating sexual environment (sexual harassment) for the females especially, but also for males.

It should be illegal for a male to put on a dress and get to enter the female restroom. It should be illegal for a female to put on some trousers and go eyeball the urinals.

1 posted on 11/14/2007 7:59:06 AM PST by xzins
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To: xzins

Which restroom would a gay male with a sexual preference for women use?


2 posted on 11/14/2007 8:00:41 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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To: xzins

More fun and games in the People’s Republic of Maryland - Montgomery County is about the most extreme jurisdiction in this sorry-assed state.


3 posted on 11/14/2007 8:01:26 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: xzins

Man, I feel like a Woman!

Seriously...this leaves things SO open for a totally, 100% straight pervert to declare himself a ‘woman’ to enter the ladies’ room.


4 posted on 11/14/2007 8:02:12 AM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: xzins
by three Council members, including one who has a transgendered male staff member.

A simple "No comment" would be most prudent here.

5 posted on 11/14/2007 8:02:51 AM PST by OSHA (Liberals will lick the boot on their necks if they think the other boot is on yours and mine.)
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To: xzins; Owl_Eagle; Sam's Army; Lazamataz; Darksheare; pissant; najida; r-q-tek86; blackie; ...
"The proposed bill as it is right now would allow transgenders to use the restroom, shower room, locker room of the gender that they are 'feeling' that day or at that time," she explains. "Meaning a man, if he is 'feeling' like a woman -- even though he still has male genitalia -- would be permitted access to the women's locker room, shower room, and bathroom."

I am guessing that a lot of men are going to feel quite womanly when the hot chicks hit the showers.

WTF.....PING!!!

6 posted on 11/14/2007 8:03:20 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.../ Get well Soon John Force!!!)
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To: xzins

They are even doing this in California too. It should be by medical certification, not by “feelings like i feel like a woman today i should be able to enter the ladies room”. I am likely going to call Senator Kuehl stating that im going to sign the petition to repeal her law.


7 posted on 11/14/2007 8:19:09 AM PST by Munson
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Lazamataz; pissant
I was born way too early. First they have all these hot teachers who like teen aged boys. Now, they’re considering letting the boys shower with the girls. LIFE IS UNFAIR!
8 posted on 11/14/2007 8:32:26 AM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

They don’t “feel like a woman”.

They’d “like to feel a woman”.


9 posted on 11/14/2007 8:34:36 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: gridlock

I think, in all fairness to all persuasions, we should do away with sexual proclivity and deviance (hetero OR homo) as a specified protected class....i.e., Male and Female are the ONLY recognized genders, NO freebies for deviates, NO special protections for lifestyles.....PERIOD.


10 posted on 11/14/2007 8:35:26 AM PST by traditional1
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To: xzins

“This is certainly sexual harassment, but not of the deviant. It creates an intimidating sexual environment (sexual harassment) for the females especially, but also for males.”

Exactly. Modest women (and men) will be left to save their clothing from dangling into the toilet as they change behind a closed stall door. Those who need to relieve themselves (hereby dubbed Squatting-Americans) must wait their turn for the rare stall to become available. Showers? Feh. Who traps themselves nekkid in a tiled rapechute? That can wait til you’re in the privacy and safety of home. Meanwhile, the selfish freak who should be in the other-gendered locker room has the entire space to himself.


11 posted on 11/14/2007 8:37:04 AM PST by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: traditional1

Killjoy!


12 posted on 11/14/2007 8:38:01 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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To: Titan Magroyne

My college dorm went to co-ed floors my first year there. The floors were built with only one bathroom, so they went with co-ed bath/shower rooms on each floor. In deference to the ladies, they removed the urinals and went all-stall. The showers had individual drying areas, so you could dry off and dress in private, if you wanted to. A surprising number of residents, both male and female, chose not to.

This was 26 years ago. But it was Berkeley, CA, so go figure.


13 posted on 11/14/2007 8:44:33 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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To: gridlock

So were there seperate closed shower stalls for the genders or what? Or was it a one person at a time type of thing?


14 posted on 11/14/2007 8:46:17 AM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: gridlock
Imagine THIS entering the shower room at YOUR gym, or standing at the adjacent urinal:


15 posted on 11/14/2007 8:47:40 AM PST by traditional1
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To: RockinRight

They were individual showers, but we did not always use them one person at a time, if you catch my drift...


16 posted on 11/14/2007 8:48:00 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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To: Enterprise

There, there now....It’ll be OK!!!!


17 posted on 11/14/2007 8:51:45 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.../ Get well Soon John Force!!!)
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To: xzins

Cool, what kid is going to complain about this .... LOL.

Liberals should be given a lobotomy at birth to prevent the human race from becoming infected with whatever causes this disease known as liberalism.


18 posted on 11/14/2007 8:54:07 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: xzins

Don’t you think the end result of this type of crap will be coed bathrooms? Bathrooms I, myself, will never use.


19 posted on 11/14/2007 9:00:54 AM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
I am guessing that a lot of men are going to feel quite womanly when the hot chicks hit the showers.

Not to be overly graphic, or nothin' but I think it would quickly become apparent that I was again "Feeling like a man".

Owl_Eagle

If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.

20 posted on 11/14/2007 9:02:21 AM PST by Owl_Eagle (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Owl_Eagle

hee hee....built in towel rack action....


21 posted on 11/14/2007 9:05:29 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.../ Get well Soon John Force!!!)
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To: Snoopers-868th; P-Marlowe

I think there’s law against a guy going into the girls’ facilities. (Anyone know them?)

In any case, it would quickly put an end to it if folks would just file charges against deviants caught in the wrong room.

Bring it to public consciousness, and it’ll remind everyone why they support those laws, and it’ll make ignorant politicians look ignorant in public.


22 posted on 11/14/2007 9:10:48 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True Supporters of the Troops will pray for US to Win!)
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To: xzins

I guess things are going to have to get SO BAD (i.e. MUCH WORSE) to wake up enough voters to put a stop to all this lunacy and throw the idiots out once and for all.


23 posted on 11/14/2007 9:14:02 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: traditional1

Bullseye. You nailed it.

You can lop things off or sew things on or put on dresses or wear make-up, but you’re never gonna change an XY into an XX.


24 posted on 11/14/2007 9:14:27 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True Supporters of the Troops will pray for US to Win!)
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To: xzins

All this because some idiots really think that sex is changeable. You are born a “whatever” and can be made whatever you want to be.
Yeah, right. Just let one of us go into the ladies room, get arrested, and claim that we were “feeling our feminine side that day”. Not that we wanted to take a peek at the women, nooooohhhhh. We will be arrested as fast as you can say transgender.


25 posted on 11/14/2007 9:14:41 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

See #24


26 posted on 11/14/2007 9:15:56 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True Supporters of the Troops will pray for US to Win!)
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To: Munson
They are even doing this in California too. It should be by medical certification, not by “feelings like i feel like a woman today i should be able to enter the ladies room”. I am likely going to call Senator Kuehl stating that im going to sign the petition to repeal her law.

It shouldn't be either by medical ceritification or by "feelings". To start with there is no medical test, except for a patient telling a doctor he "feels he is a woman in a man's body", to determine this kind of phycosis. This is a mental illness and should be treated, not indulged. If a male has male parts hanging between his legs, he is them deifinitely a male, not a woman regardless of what a Doctor says or the way he feels.

A man who wants his dick cut off is crazy and there is no other way to see it unless you are so stupid that you buy into the crap about being born in the wrong body.

Put these people in a mental institution where they belong. Isn't stopping someone from harming themselves or others the criteria for committing someone? If getting a body part whacked off isn't harming ones self I don't know what would be. The people trying to pass these insane PC laws need to be thrown out, not voted out thrown out, of office as fast as we can arrange it. Time for the sane folks to take back their country.

27 posted on 11/14/2007 9:45:33 AM PST by calex59 (N)
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To: OSHA
one who has a transgendered male staff member.

Double "no comment," indeed! LOL!

28 posted on 11/14/2007 9:51:11 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: xzins

What about XXYs?


29 posted on 11/14/2007 9:55:09 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

They are not a result of surgery.


30 posted on 11/14/2007 9:56:58 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True Supporters of the Troops will pray for US to Win!)
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To: xzins
When one of my sisters-in-law started at a state funded college they had same-sex bathrooms in the dorms. Poor kid went almost a week without going, then when she broke down she wore her roommate's shoes so anybody peeking under wouldn't know who it was.

She transferred out asap.

31 posted on 11/14/2007 10:03:52 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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I guess things are going to have to get SO BAD (i.e. MUCH WORSE) to wake up enough voters to put a stop to all this lunacy and throw the idiots out once and for all.

Not likely IMO. Maryland is loaded with liberals and DemocRATs.

32 posted on 11/14/2007 11:18:34 AM PST by beachn4fun (With the holidays fast approaching, remember the deployed troops. A care package shows you care.)
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To: gridlock

I’d have considered that an unteneble situation. Even at college age with a tight bod, I was way too shy for that nonsense.


33 posted on 11/14/2007 11:42:47 AM PST by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

I am sure Moose could straighten it out. /S


34 posted on 11/14/2007 12:18:09 PM PST by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
I am guessing that a lot of men are going to feel quite womanly when the hot chicks hit the showers.

Q : If he sports wood in the shower, does that make him a lesbian ???

35 posted on 11/14/2007 12:45:07 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: Gilbo_3

Male lesbian....hmmmmmm, maybe.


36 posted on 11/14/2007 12:48:21 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.../ Get well Soon John Force!!!)
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