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Texas Mayors Want to Widen Rio Grande
AOL News ^ | November 13, 2007

Posted on 11/13/2007 7:17:59 PM PST by Clintonfatigued

Texan mayors opposed to a planned border fence with Mexico want to widen and deepen the Rio Grande river instead, and say it will be more effective in keeping out illegal immigrants.

The U.S. government aims to build 700 miles of new fencing along the frontier with Mexico to boost security and try to stem the tide of immigration from the south.

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TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: illegalaliens; riogrande

1 posted on 11/13/2007 7:18:00 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: SwinneySwitch; T.L.Sink; EternalVigilance; SandRat; ExTexasRedhead; 2ndDivisionVet

If this is cheaper than building the fence and it works, why not?


2 posted on 11/13/2007 7:18:48 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Clintonfatigued

How about just activate the Riot Act for the border? The situation is that dire.


3 posted on 11/13/2007 7:19:14 PM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Can we stock it with alligators, too?


4 posted on 11/13/2007 7:20:20 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: Clintonfatigued
Texan mayors opposed to a planned border fence with Mexico want to widen and deepen the Rio Grande river instead

uh.....First of all, ya - right...lol

Second of all, why is anyone asking freakin' mayors in Texas what they think about the nations borders?

5 posted on 11/13/2007 7:21:59 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car......with guns.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Pirhanas would be cheaper.


6 posted on 11/13/2007 7:22:05 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Only if they stock it with nile crocodiles.


8 posted on 11/13/2007 7:24:35 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I guess they have never seen one of these!


9 posted on 11/13/2007 7:26:36 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
A wider river would increase the time it takes to cross the Rio Grande from Mexico to up to four or five minutes, making it easier to spot would-be immigrants and allow Border Patrol speed boats to monitor the river and make arrests more easily.

But a government official who requested anonymity said Washington was concerned a bigger river may cost more lives. "A wider, deeper river means more people may drown," the official said.

10 posted on 11/13/2007 7:29:46 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: Clintonfatigued
Yes I think it should be bigger for the patrol boats.
11 posted on 11/13/2007 7:32:22 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: Clintonfatigued

Rio Grand ... Wider and Deeper ... Garbage Bags Now Band in USA!


12 posted on 11/13/2007 7:36:19 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
If this is cheaper than building the fence and it works, why not?

It's easier to swim a river than it is to climb a fence. Not saying it wouldn't help, but I still think a fence would be better.
13 posted on 11/13/2007 7:41:49 PM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I guess this is just to practical?


14 posted on 11/13/2007 7:44:14 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

These Mayors have basically declared their allegiance to Mexico.


15 posted on 11/13/2007 7:46:10 PM PST by DesScorp
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To: Clintonfatigued

Don’t forget to stock it with gators


16 posted on 11/13/2007 7:48:29 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: Red_Devil 232

That’s EXACTLY what we need. None of this sissy chain-link stuff.


17 posted on 11/13/2007 7:52:33 PM PST by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi)
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To: RedCell
We should fire Boeing and Halliburton and hire an Israeli construction firm!
18 posted on 11/13/2007 8:00:51 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Butt holes are looking for a cash cow.


19 posted on 11/13/2007 8:02:56 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Clintonfatigued

To be serious, it is just about the dumbest thing they have come up with lately. You cannot make a river wider are deeper. You can only build damns for people to walk across and small lakes. Low IQ mayors should be the title.


20 posted on 11/13/2007 8:06:37 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: org.whodat

Wider and deeper huh?, well I guess if they can find a tree nearly, this million dollar ‘solution’ wont work. I think a ‘trespassers beware of pitbulls’ sign would be cheaper and more effective


21 posted on 11/13/2007 8:14:55 PM PST by mriguy67
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To: Red_Devil 232

Maybe a replica of the Great Wall of China would be nice...could double as a tourist attraction.


22 posted on 11/13/2007 8:21:26 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: org.whodat

So, I guess they are saying they can control a river, even though they say it’s impossible to build a fence?


23 posted on 11/13/2007 8:25:38 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: Clintonfatigued
Wider,deeper filled with piranha and still build the fence.
24 posted on 11/13/2007 8:27:34 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Wider and deeper seems to imply more water. So my question is, where do we get all this extra water that we will be dumping into the Gulf of Mexico?

A deeper riverbed, without more water, means nothing. And the south west United States is not exactly the wettest place on earth. I think this is just a plan to scuttle the border fence.


25 posted on 11/13/2007 8:36:06 PM PST by redheadtoo
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

And more effective.


26 posted on 11/13/2007 8:40:09 PM PST by Mike-o-Matic
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To: Mike-o-Matic

Seems to me that setting explosives on the riverbanks would also slow down the invasion...we’re at war with miraders, I’m not going to be politically correct.


27 posted on 11/13/2007 8:51:10 PM PST by princess leah
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To: Clintonfatigued

And put crocodiles in it!!!!!


28 posted on 11/13/2007 8:51:56 PM PST by Tribune7 (Dems want to rob from the poor to give to the rich)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Great. Dig a channel and line it with concertina wire. Cheaper than a fence.
29 posted on 11/13/2007 8:59:45 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: DesScorp

“These Mayors have basically declared their allegiance to Mexico.”

Just about. They need to be told that what crosses the border doesn’t stay at the border, and that the border is the US/Mexico border, not the Texas, Arizona, NM, California town/US border. But I’m afraid we don’t have the right people in Washington to tell them that, at least for now.


30 posted on 11/13/2007 9:26:08 PM PST by Will88
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To: Clintonfatigued
If this is cheaper than building the fence and it works, why not?

Why? sometimes there is so little water in the river, and it flows so slowly that it may not matter how much the river bed is widened and deepened. But I have not seen the Rio Grande since 1973.

31 posted on 11/13/2007 10:44:23 PM PST by valkyry1
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To: org.whodat
You cannot make a river wider are deeper.

They probably don't expect their half-baked idea to actually be implemented.

The Colorado River from the bottom of Marble Canyon, in the Upper Grand Canyon

32 posted on 11/13/2007 11:12:54 PM PST by FreePoster (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: valkyry1

I was at Big Bend maybe 4 years ago. A person could wade across without getting their shirt wet. That was during January. It was perhaps 30 feet across. There use to be a boat that some enterprising Mexicans would pick up gringos and take across the river to the little town. Plenty of cheap cold beer and lots of women. But 9/11 shut that down. No boats were allowed to be used for crossing. I know that the Rio “Grande” varies in size along its path, but I haven’t seen anything yet to be impressed about.


33 posted on 11/13/2007 11:33:05 PM PST by neb52
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To: FreePoster

Those canyons make a good barrier for a couple of miles. There is no where to get out until you come out from the canyon. Then you are in flat prairie/desert land. It makes for good rafting though.


34 posted on 11/13/2007 11:35:02 PM PST by neb52
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To: neb52
Where I saw the Rio Rio Grande River, it was somewhere around Roma or Rio Grande City or maybe near Zapata.

It might have been 100’ or so across.

The last I was ever one the Mexican side of the border towns, was back in the mid 1970’s. I would have been in my early to mid 20’s, and serving with the 2/1 Cav ‘BlackHawks’ as a Cobra-Huey crew chief.

And while there was an element of mystique danger and unknown, the Mexicans I think still loved us overall ... Well they loved me anyway :-)

35 posted on 11/14/2007 12:17:03 AM PST by valkyry1
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To: Red_Devil 232
That looks similar to the walls of that Mexican prison outside the outskirts of Mazatlan, except those walls look to be 80’ high.
36 posted on 11/14/2007 12:23:43 AM PST by valkyry1
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To: FreePoster
They probably don't expect their half-baked idea to actually be implemented.

If you had read a little further meat-head, you would have found that I said all you could do is build dams for illegals to walk across and small lakes.

37 posted on 11/14/2007 4:42:38 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Have you ever heard of row boats and canoes?


38 posted on 11/14/2007 5:41:44 AM PST by libstripper
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Because they’re on the nation’s borders and their communities are more affected by illegal aliens than any other.


39 posted on 11/14/2007 7:23:50 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Clintonfatigued
No, it doesn't work that way.  Little local mayors of podunk towns do not set national policy.  Especially considering that some of these mayors have attempted to thwart the process in the past.

No one asks San Francisco about naval policy because it has navy bases and is on the water.

40 posted on 11/14/2007 8:03:22 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car......with guns.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; FryingPan101; AnimalLover; backtothestreets; Olephart; pulaskibush; ...

Widen and deepen? Sounds like Falcon Lake!


41 posted on 11/14/2007 8:54:26 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: Will88
They need to be told that what crosses the border doesn’t stay at the border,

Dang right. Those guys put up with them for 15 minutes. I am here in Dallas and we have been putting up with them for 15 years.

42 posted on 11/14/2007 9:05:16 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Apparently these mayors never heard of Cubans.


43 posted on 11/14/2007 10:08:52 AM PST by mowowie
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To: JamesP81

When I was 10 years old I used to swim across a river while holding onto a 3 foot piece of 2X10. No problems at all.


44 posted on 11/14/2007 10:52:41 AM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: B4Ranch
When I was 10 years old I used to swim across a river while holding onto a 3 foot piece of 2X10. No problems at all.

When I was about that age, I'd swim out into the middle of the Tennesse River just for fun. No life jacket, nothing to hang on to.
45 posted on 11/14/2007 10:55:53 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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