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ABC News' "Nightline" and Vanity Fair Team Up to Report on the War in Afghanistan on Nov. 12
American Patriots ^ | 11 10 2007 | U. S. Government dispatch

Posted on 11/11/2007 6:03:08 PM PST by maine-iac7

Exclusive: The Other War -- Vanity Fair And ABC's Brian Ross Team Up To Report On The Untold Story Of The War In Afghanistan, On "Nightline," Monday, November 12...In a special Veterans Day edition of "Nightline," Vanity Fair and ABC News' Chief Investigative Correspondent Brian Ross partner to take a harrowing look at the 'other' war, seldom talked about, in eastern Afghanistan. Over a six month period, Vanity Fair's Sebastian Junger and Tim Hetherington were embedded with the Second Platoon of the 173rd Airborne and given unprecedented access to the ongoing ground war. They witness first-hand the daily physical and emotional struggles of these soldiers and follow the platoon's terrifying fight against the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

Last month our camera was on the front line of a major battle that resulted in the deaths of three Americans and the wounding of six others during "Operation Rock Avalanche." The report brings viewers inside soldiers' lives in one of the most dangerous regions of the war on terror in Afghanistan, at a time when the major U.S. ally in the region, Pakistan, roils in dire political crisis ..."Nightline," MONDAY, NOVEMBER 12, at 11:35 p.m., ET/PT on the ABC


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 173rd; abcnews; afghanistan; banglist; nightline; oef; rockavalanche; troops; vanityfair; wot
These embeds reportedly have done a great job - they followed "The Rock" of the 2nd/503rd, 173rd Airborne ("Sky Soldiers") - in the Kunar Province, north eastern Afghanistan, smack up against the Pakistan Border - "The Rock" is stationed at KOP (Korengal [Valley] Outpost. aka "Taliban Central" as Bin Laden considers it home = ...They have been under fire since their first week there - June - and in a firefight the last two months every day be 3. ...Watch and see what our troops are made of -
1 posted on 11/11/2007 6:03:09 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: maine-iac7

"The Rock" , Battle co., 2nd/503rd, 173rd Airborne = "Sky Soldiers" = deployed to Afghanistan June 2007 for 15 months

2 posted on 11/11/2007 6:05:58 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Dog; shield

Make note to watch if you can - AO is the most dangerous in all of Stan -


3 posted on 11/11/2007 6:09:20 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: maine-iac7

well right off the bat I’ll say no freakin way this will be a good report - Vanity Fair is so liberal it’s publisher uses the mag as an obvious liberal platform each and every month. Just read his own comments. And Nightline? C’mon.


4 posted on 11/11/2007 6:09:30 PM PST by RDTF ("Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear". Mark Twain)
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To: maine-iac7

dang. some of those guys look like kids just out of asut...


5 posted on 11/11/2007 6:13:24 PM PST by frankenMonkey (101st Army Dad)
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To: maine-iac7

Thanks for posting...I’ll try to remember to watch it.

Another naive question for the gun-experts in the forum...
What’s the piece the soldier standing at the right has?

My naive, inexpert-gun-enthusiast wild guess is some sort of M-14...
but I’ve probably totally off-course.


6 posted on 11/11/2007 6:14:07 PM PST by VOA
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To: frankenMonkey

asut = osut.


7 posted on 11/11/2007 6:14:19 PM PST by frankenMonkey (101st Army Dad)
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To: RDTF

Wish I could watch it. I only had a brief overlap with the 173rd, but they struck me as a professional, solid unit. And KOP is in a TOUGH area - lots of mortars, lots of IEDs.


8 posted on 11/11/2007 6:22:18 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I'm not sweating global warming!)
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To: RDTF
just going by what some who were there say = wont know until I see it - but wont NOT watch it because I might get offended - I think I owe the troops that much - I try not to prejudge everything -

I'm gonna take off my helmet and watch it "

C'mon"

9 posted on 11/11/2007 6:28:17 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: VOA
Maybe we'll find out tomorrow night - one thing for sure, looks like a good guy to have your back!

"The Rock" is an "Early Response Team" - lots of extra training

10 posted on 11/11/2007 6:30:59 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: frankenMonkey
asut = osut


11 posted on 11/11/2007 6:32:03 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: RDTF

Yep. I agree. I have long since given up trying to be open-minded about this. Like Charlie Brown kicking the football, time and time again I watched some program on Nightline or PBS with high hopes, only to get pissed off after watching it because they just could NOT resist putting their politics into it.

Case in point, I watched a special on PBS on Carol Burnett the other night. Now, I simply don’t watch television anymore except for football games and such. But my wife was laughing and suggested I come in and watch, because she knows I have always thought Carol Burnett to be pretty funny.

I watched for a while, enjoyed it, and with no warning, it immediately veered into “the fight of female actresses against the male dominated film industry”. There it stayed, until ten minutes later I got up with disgust and walked out to do something else.

They did the same thing with the Ken Burns WWII series. They pull that with everything.

Now I can appreciate hearing about Carol Burnett and her obstacles she overcame to get to the big time. And I appreciate that many minorities did yeoman work during WWII under difficult circumstances and served their country well.

I appreciate those things for what they are...color blind and gender blind.

Liberals have to present EVERY DAMNED THING through their own political prism of class, sex, race, you name it.

So, to expect they might change their spots and present things as they are and not through their damned political prism is, for me, just too much to expect.


12 posted on 11/11/2007 6:33:15 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Wish I could watch it. I only had a brief overlap with the 173rd, but they struck me as a professional, solid unit. And KOP is in a TOUGH area - lots of mortars, lots of IEDs.

I'm going to TIVO it - already got it programmed -and tape it and then get it on DVD

13 posted on 11/11/2007 6:34:10 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: RDTF

Vanity Fair is an elitist liberal rag.


14 posted on 11/11/2007 6:35:00 PM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: VOA

It looks like a modified M14 known as an M21.


15 posted on 11/11/2007 6:38:03 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: maine-iac7; RDTF; rlmorel
"ABC News' "Nightline" and Vanity Fair Team Up to PILE ON the War in Afghanistan

There, fixed it.

16 posted on 11/11/2007 6:38:08 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: DevSix
They should have joined up with NATO...then they could see what sissies are all about...will not fight...

I do not trust nightline...nasty loon liars...

17 posted on 11/11/2007 6:39:41 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Old Sarge

I just do not trust them at all to be objective.

Especially not Vanity Fair.


18 posted on 11/11/2007 6:40:53 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: popdonnelly
Vanity Fair is an elitist liberal rag.

Can't dispute that, but the troops of "The Rock" AREN'T - and they, in my mind,TRUMP whatever I may think about ABC, etc...

This is about out TROOPS, folks...,

to self: "for crying out loud, horse poopy"

But far be it for me to insist anyone watch -

19 posted on 11/11/2007 6:40:57 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7

I really do hope for their sake that the spin is a positive one, they deserve nothing less. But don’t hold your breath.


20 posted on 11/11/2007 6:41:43 PM PST by RDTF ("Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear". Mark Twain)
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To: Recon Dad
It looks like a modified M14 known as an M21.

Team sniper?

21 posted on 11/11/2007 6:41:46 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: rlmorel

Ditto what you said. Nice rant. Totally concur.


22 posted on 11/11/2007 6:43:21 PM PST by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: rlmorel
Thank you for that most excellent rant rimorel...

The politics of correctness is here to stay when even a tribute to a funny lady is dragged into it...

23 posted on 11/11/2007 6:50:06 PM PST by pandemoniumreigns
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To: Prince Caspian; RDTF
All the "ranting" aside - neither of you - or others saying similar - have said you may watch it...just curious.


24 posted on 11/11/2007 6:50:23 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Recon Dad

“It looks like a modified M14 known as an M21.”

Looks like you’ve likely nailed it.
There are some in circulation in Afghanistan and Iraq.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:0NOT8ab2005-01-26.jpg


25 posted on 11/11/2007 6:52:15 PM PST by VOA
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To: maine-iac7

sure - I will. The subject matter is terrific. But, I’m expecting to be really ticked off at the liberal bias they can’t help but thrown in to muddy it up and take away from what should be the focus. Would love to be wrong.


26 posted on 11/11/2007 6:55:35 PM PST by RDTF ("Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear". Mark Twain)
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To: pandemoniumreigns
Thank you for that most excellent rant ...

It would seem that many of you are intent on turning this thread into a 'rant' on ABC = and intent on not getting offended rather than the attention being on our troops?

I hope some can put their ire aside for a tiny bit of time - and want to see what is it our troops are going through for us - and freedom...

But I have noticed the past few months - I guess since the infamous FR purge last spring? - that there seems to be more nattering nabobs in FR than there used to be...

Helmet ON...

27 posted on 11/11/2007 7:00:04 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7
I'll try to watch it, but I'm not holding out for any kind of "late surge conversion" from these guys...

Liberal is as Liberal Does...

28 posted on 11/11/2007 7:00:39 PM PST by pandemoniumreigns
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To: shield
Which is why you won’t find NATO (outside of a very select few) operating in Kunar or Nuristan -
29 posted on 11/11/2007 7:01:31 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: maine-iac7

Wait oh .. How is Bush doing on Afghanistan? Liberal silence... Iraq is turned around Liberal Silence...

What everyone here that calls themselves a Conservative should do is write Congress Reps, Newspapers, March do anything that you can do to get the attention of the media that The Liberals are on the wrong side of History remind everyone that if the Democrats had their way redeploying troops out of Iraq in 05/06... In their words Iraq was lost if they had their way Iraq would now be a bastion of terrorist training camps and Iranian strength... which would have easily migrated into Afghanistan to harm our remaining troops their....


30 posted on 11/11/2007 7:01:59 PM PST by tomnbeverly (The sour sounds of liberal whining is sure to scare away any chance of success.)
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To: DevSix
Which is why you won’t find NATO (outside of a very select few) operating in Kunar or Nuristan -

Got that right - just wish they hadn't committed troops - that we counted on, numbers wise - and then not deliver.

But then again, I don't know's I'd want to count on one of them to watch my back

..

31 posted on 11/11/2007 7:06:03 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: tomnbeverly
so right.

Did you catch Karl Rove's column this week blasting the demRats on all that?

Loved it! Hope he'll continue.

(Hey, demRAts, Carl's baaaccck. And you can't indite him for being a columnist.)

Indeed, as a columnist, his tongue/pen is free to call 'em as he sees 'em...

32 posted on 11/11/2007 7:10:37 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: rlmorel
I simply don’t watch television anymore except for football games

If they turn the lights on.

33 posted on 11/11/2007 7:18:29 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: maine-iac7
The "natering nabobs" dig aside...

The MSM in this country is obviously not on the side of our guys. Regardless of their effort or successes, the media plays only to the basest of the Americans fears. The surge isn't working, three Marines killed by ied today, political progess in in Bagdad stagnant, yada yada yada...

The MSN in this country is devoted to the liberal, leftist line and I do not expect that this pogram will be any different....Thats all... of course I support our guys and would love to see a NightLine piece that gives them credit for their accomplishments...I just don't see it happening...

34 posted on 11/11/2007 7:24:41 PM PST by pandemoniumreigns
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To: ASA Vet
Nightline (I’m well aware) But could be worth checking out nonetheless.
35 posted on 11/11/2007 7:38:11 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: Prince Caspian

I wish it were not so. OTOH, not watching TV DOES give me more time to hone my understanding of various issues. At least I feel I am educating myself during my online time (rants not withstanding)


36 posted on 11/11/2007 7:39:21 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: maine-iac7

Amen, glad he’s out there... now we need others...


37 posted on 11/11/2007 7:39:29 PM PST by tomnbeverly (The sour sounds of liberal whining is sure to scare away any chance of success.)
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To: DevSix

Yep, mine was located in eastern Stan...yet, he spoke of the wussies of NATO...


38 posted on 11/11/2007 7:47:06 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: maine-iac7

I know what you mean, but...I simply will not watch it. I don’t feel that I need to support the troops by watching it...I am glad for the men who are highlighted, it will give them a chance to be seen...make a connection with the folks back home, get some recognition and such.

I support the troops each and every day in my discourse with people...when I see someone in uniform, I am sure to greet them and let them know I am grateful for anything they do, whether driving a supply truck between bases in Texas or humping a rock-strewn mountain in Afghanistan.

I get down to Walter Reed when I can to support the DC chapter...I correspond with my legislators and write letters to the editors, although that is admittedly a bit of a masturbatory process here in Massachusetts.

I understand your viewpoint, but...I am not going to watch it. I would like to be surprised, but don’t see how I would be after the last four and a half years of watching those kinds of things and seeing the exact opposite.

If Oliver North is hosting it on Fox...yes, I will watch. Not Brian Ross, and definitely not Vanity Fair. (Yes, the Brian Ross of the “...three-part series on the existence of secret CIA prisons in Eastern Europe where top al Qaeda figures were held...”)


39 posted on 11/11/2007 7:50:38 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: VOA

It’s an M-21 (a modified M-14). I have an M-25 very similar (more of a match rifle), but semi-auto.


40 posted on 11/11/2007 8:00:31 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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