Ron Paul breaks into the light as freedom warrior

Tribune-Review ^ | David Brown

[Salena Zito]

Ron Paul breaks into the light as freedom warrior By David M. Brown TRIBUNE-REVIEW Sunday, November 11, 2007

DES MOINES -- It used to be easy to portray Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul as a quixotic champion of a hopeless cause. But Don Quixote never raised $4.2 million in a single day.

The parody of someone tilting at windmills hardly fits now that Paul is raising serious amounts of campaign cash. He's using it to fortify grassroots efforts in the important early caucus state of Iowa and to buy TV ads in New Hampshire and other key battleground states.

The Green Tree native who garnered just 432,000 votes in 1988, when he ran for president as a Libertarian, has 100,000 volunteers today.

[PreciousLiberty]

I’ll give Ron Paul credit for a good publicity stunt (having his supporters delay donations for weeks so he could set a “one day contribution record”).

For the most part though, Ron Paul is a non-starter. The polls show it, and he certainly won’t be the Republican nominee.

[YOUGOTIT]

I would vote for HC before I would vote for a al-Qaeda supporter.

[Drango]

anyone know any good shrimp jokes? Post ‘em here....

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

Nope, I don't think so.

Ron Paul's Old Newsletter Revealed.

[CheyennePress]

Ron Paul actually never set the one-day record for donations in this campaign cycle. I don’t know where his supporters are coming up with that. There has to be some serious caveats to the terms.

Mitt Romney, for instance, raised 6.5-million in a day earlier in this campaign. And I don’t even know if that’s the record. You didn’t hear Romney’s camp calling it such.

http://dailynewsrush.newsvine.com/_news/2007/01/08/511798-the-six-million-dollar-man-mitt-romneys-six-million-dollar-day

[NurdlyPeon]

I look at this the same way I look at fireworks. If someone is willing to spend millions of dollars just to entertain me, who am I to say no? Spend on, Ron, spend on...

[Tarpon]

I still think daffy duck is funnier. Oh wait, you telling me this isn’t a cartoon? How do you know?

[mkjessup]

Permit me to be the first:

[RoadKingSE]

It used to be easy to portray Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul as a quixotic

"He said Ron Paul is a quixotic. Heh heh! I am the great Cornholio."

[W04Man]

Freedom Warrior?????........ NOT

Bump!

FRED VETS, SIGN UP TODAY AT:

[infidel29]

The money rasised was not "grass roots" money, the event was organized by a leftist, whose name I can't recall at the moment, from Florida who just announced he's moving to New Hampshire temporarily, an effort to derail Mitt Romney and ensure Roody will be the (R) nominee.

Then the Clintons can let loose the sh*tstorm of negativity on him. This will cause a split in the right and a base for Paul to run as a third party candidate. Thus giving America another Clinton in the Wite House.

DON'T FALL FOR PAUL!!!

[Allegra]

Ron Paul actually never set the one-day record for donations in this campaign cycle. I don’t know where his supporters are coming up with that.

They tend to make things up in hopes of duping a couple of the gullibel types into believing what they say.

[kindred]

Ron Paul is the leader of the moonbats who always cite such ridiculous conspiracy theories and generally believe Alex Jones is telling the truth.

[humblegunner]

Ron Paul breaks into the light as freedom warrior

Those crazy Al Qaedas and their freedom warriors!

[kindred]

And I too believe that Ron Paul is a leftist who like so many liberals pretend to be conservatives. They beleive and talk and act like liberals. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, there is a very good chance it is a duck.

[George W. Bush]

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Selena has posted a nice article from a writer at her paper.

[ex-Texan]

This new George Carlin video may have something to do with Ron Paul's growing success raising campaign donations:

George Carlin Says "Wake Up America!

The Anti-Major Party Message is gaining converts.

Warning: Graphic Carlin Language . . .

[George W. Bush]

I would vote for HC before I would vote for a al-Qaeda supporter.

Yet another Xlinton FReeper. Nice.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

See how this purported "freedom warrior" fumes and splutters indignantly over the PLO being designated a terrorist organization; slanders the late Jesse Helms as having been "bought and paid for" by Israel; and other disturbingly revealing (and damning) beliefs -- in his own words.

[Salena Zito]

:)

[NCSteve]

Yet another Xlinton FReeper. Nice.

Most of them are these days. None of them actually want the things this site is supposed to stand for, they just like talking about it. Well, occasionally talking about it, between posting the same tired, sophomoric jabs at everyone who is not their favored child for next year.

In truth, they are all a bunch of Clinton supporters. They all support whichever sacrificial lamb is being offered by the GOP establishment next year, without actually posing a threat to the Beast in Pants Suits. A vote for anyone in the GOP primary who is not Ron Paul is a vote for Hillary Clinton.

[Beckwith]

Have you noticed a big drop in postings from Paulistas on this site ever since he has been exposed as a raving lunatic?

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

A vote for anyone in the GOP primary who is not Ron Paul is a vote for Hillary Clinton.

[George W. Bush]

The grassroots, despite their orgy of fundraising earlier in the week, is determined to have another moneybomb today. Here's an autoupdating graph, showing donations up sharply, especially for a Sunday morning. You can click the graph for a full set of about 40 online fundraising graphs.

Watch in horror as those Dirty Hippies spam poor Ron Paul with their filthy fiat money again.

C'mon, Kent, it's Veteran's Day. Cough it up for the vets. Or go cough it up for another GOP candidate.

Happy Armistice Day, everybody!

[Popman]

Ron Paul breaks into the light as freedom warrior

I think that headline is just about the funniest thing I've seen in a while

Sounds like it was written by a 14 year old sitting in mommy basement playing a RPG game

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

C'mon, Kent, it's Veteran's Day. Cough it up for the vets. Or go cough it up for another GOP candidate.

Donated to a genuine patriot last Friday, thanks: DUNCAN HUNTER! ;)

[CJ Wolf]

“Mitt Romney, for instance, raised 6.5-million in a day earlier in this campaign. And I don’t even know if that’s the record. You didn’t hear Romney’s camp calling it such.”

Well Mitt did no such thing. If you read your article it was pledges to contribute toward his campaign if he ran...

From your article...”At the same time, raising such a large sum of money in one day — with the caveat that part of the money has been pledged and not actually delivered”

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Nope, I don't think so.

Ron Paul's Old Newsletter Revealed.

Looks as if somebody didn't do his or her homework, cause this nonsense was long ago DEBUNKED.

Glad to see you're back Salena. Did you have a column in today's Trib? i'll be checking it out later. Keep the faith babe.

[longtermmemmory]

...and Mr. Hsu’s post man really did donate $50,000 dollars to hillary.

I suspect ronpauls donations are more shills for concealing big donations rather than actual substance.

ronpaul is just a kook 527

[George W. Bush]

Good to see you, CJ. Don't forget that Ron Paul (and some guy named Huckabee) will be the two interviews today on Deface The Nation.

Schieffer is kind of curmudgeonly at times but he tries to be a little fairer than some of the real libmedia hacks. He also tries to probe and look for the positives in a candidate even though it's clear he's a lib. He's mostly curious, I think, about why anyone would ever vote for any Republican. LOL.

Might be a good interview. I know he did a really excellent interview with Mitt a month or so back.

[canuck_conservative]

Ron Paul IS a real patriot.

He believes the US should fight wars only for US interests, not some foreign country’s - as the Founding Fathers originally advocated, too, and the way GWB WAS before Cheney and the neocons got his ear.

[George W. Bush]

I suspect ronpauls donations are more shills for concealing big donations rather than actual substance.

No, it isn't. It's small donations. Prior to last Monday, only 3% of RP donors were maxxed at $2300. On Monday, it was ~36,000 donating an average of $103 each.

And unlike the other candidates, Dr. Paul will not accept money for the general election at this time. This is how other campaigns inflate their numbers, with fatcats donating $4600. It should be against the law but I guess McCain thought that part of CFR would help him personally.

BTW, there are legal ways to completely circumvent McCain-Feingold-Thompson limits. But RP supporters aren't doing such because we have so few maxxed out donors. Go look at the long lists of maxxed out donors for Giuliani or Romney, for instance. Not that many small donors in there. When you look at Fred or Duncan or Ron Paul or the others, they do much more with small donors. I think that should be noted.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Looks as if somebody didn't do his or her homework, cause this nonsense was long ago DEBUNKED.

Looks as if somebody didn't even bother clicking onto the link in question, in post #5. Those aren't the damning Ron Paul newsletters under discussion.

Paulestinians. You're like Chuck Jones cartoons, only with legs and elbows. Honest to God. ;)

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Ron Paul IS a real patriot.

This your idea of a real patriot, is it...?

Sad.

[Larry Lucido]

Mitt Romney, for instance, raised 6.5-million in a day earlier in this campaign.

You are engaging in duplicitous Ron Paul bashing and are obviously a RINO McRudyomney supporter who hates the Consitution. 100% of Ron's support comes from solders, and the rest from true conservatives who aren't just pretending to be in favor of small government so they can support a surrender monkey.

Besides, Ron Paul raised more money in one day than any other Ron Paul in history.

[rineaux]

I agree

Mitt’s money.

When you look at the 3Q figure for Mitt, you will see his 9 million cash on hand and he only has 17 million dollar debt. You have to wonder how he would spend as president. Time for Mitt to write himself a check to get out of debt.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Looks as if somebody didn't even bother clicking onto the link in question, in post #5. Those aren't the damning Ron Paul newsletters under discussion.

Paulestinians. You're like Chuck Jones cartoons, only with legs and elbows. Honest to God. ;)

Nice try, but it's the same publication, and you have exactly zero assurance that Paul wrote any of those articles.

Funny that nobody seems to want to argue the substance of any of the articles, or present contrary evidence...did you even look at the threads?...

No, they're too busy screaming "anti-Semite" to deal with such trivial matters as whether or not the articles were correct.

If this is the level of argumentation at FR, i feel very frightened for the Republic.

[JerseyHighlander]

Everything Ron Paul said regarding Helms is 100% true. Helms' policy position change regarding Israel was a direct result of Falwell's intervention, Moral Majority founding members took a decidedly pro-Israel stance in 1976, culminating in 1985, and Falwell along with politically active Jewish groups specifically went after Helms as they saw him as a good man.

If you don't know this history, you sound like a partisan monkey. Which on this issue, almost everyone on FR has taken to as a default position.

Ron Paul was NOT alone in questioning the ascendancy of the Moral Majority in the 1980's, nor was he alone in questioning the Pro-Israel positions taken by evangelical Christians in the US during the time. Many of Israel's politicians were equally disturbed by this trend. And for good reason.

And the position Paul took on the matter was not and is not outside the boundaries of rational political discourse. Yet freepers have drifted from the mainstream, so much so that you are attacking anyone who moves outside the policies set by religious political figures over two decades ago.

 

<p>Further, the Jewish support Helms received in the 1984 election cycle was directly linked to Jewish groups associated with Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority. Helms trip to Israel in 1985 was led by Falwell, and was received by Ariel Sharon in Israel.</p>
<p><a href="http://rightweb.irc-online.org/gw/2803">http://rightweb.irc-online.org/gw/2803</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-54895469.html">http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-54895469.html</a>

 

[JerseyHighlander]

At the time the newsletter was written, Ron Paul was going on the best and widelt disseminated information possible regarding the bulldozing of the trenches during the first days of the Gulf War.

Posted by JerseyHighlander to LSUfan On Bloggers & Personal ^ 11/10/2007 4:31:46 PM EST · 14 of 19 ^ Frontline Transcript on the trench bulldozing incidents. NARRATOR: The American 1st Infantry Division had the job of storming the trenches to clear a path for the tanks. To avoid hand-to-hand fighting, they planned to bury the Iraqi defenders alive. Col. LON MAGGART, 1st Infantry Division: A thought occurred to me, we could actually use these plows to fill in the trenches. In fact, I had tested it myself. I got down in the ditch myself and had two tanks plow towards me, just to see what it did. I learned several things and one is I learned that it happens very quickly, so the defender has a choice to make, but he has to make it very quickly. He can either give up and hop out of the trench, he can try to run down the trench and get away, but he better do those quickly because these things move at amazing speed down there. NARRATOR: Along the Iraqi border ran a sand barrier, a berm. Beyond that lay five miles of minefields and then the Iraqi trenches. 1st U.S. SOLDIER: We got the first one, first berm in a minute. 2nd U.S. SOLDIER: That's real good. The second one's a tougher one. NARRATOR: Armored bulldozers and tanks fitted with plows broke through the berm and moved on to the trenches. Eighteen-year-old Joe Queen drove one of the lead bulldozers. JOE QUEEN: What we did is we just took the dirt that the Iraqi soldiers had dug out_ we just pushed that dirt right back into the trench. You could just look at the man's eyes and see fear. You know, you see him scared. You know, you're looking at a man's_ the whites of his eyes as you're going through in the trench with this bulldozer, covering in the trench. And they were firing at the bulldozer and the first bullet that hit the blade, that made me know then, "Hey, look. This is for real. There's no game. Those are real bullets and a bullet would kill you." NARRATOR: After the war, press accounts reported thousands of Iraqis were buried. Most independent analysts estimate it was just hundreds. The Army says it was about 150. JOE QUEEN: You don't think about, "Hey, what about this guy? What about that guy?" He had a chance to get out. He had every opportunity to get out and he took the way to die for his country, just like any American would. NARRATOR: By the end of the ground war's first day, all of Schwarzkopf's horses were on the attack. Gen. NORMAN SCHWARZKOPF: I went to bed that night very satisfied with the fact that the campaign plan was unfolding and that_ that it looked like we were going to have a terrific success and_ you know, and accomplish everything we wanted to accomplish. NARRATOR: In Washington that Sunday, President Bush had received little news. If there were heavy U.S. casualties, it could finish him politically and could even stop the war. RICHARD CHENEY, Secretary of Defense: I got briefed just before I went into the church. The president was right ahead of me. I passed him a note that said, "Mr. President, things are going very well." We all went back to the White House. I got out a map from Time magazine, just sort of showing exactly what was happening, and I was able to tell him there that things were going extraordinarily well. We had assumed that the toughest part of the ground war, in terms of casualties, would have been the early hours of that conflict and, in fact, what we were finding was that the air war had been enormously effective and decimated the Iraqi forces and that they, in fact, were collapsing in front of us. NARRATOR: But in Riyadh the allied commander was having a bad morning.

[Allegra]

You are engaging in duplicitous Ron Paul bashing and are obviously a RINO McRudyomney supporter who hates the Consitution. 100% of Ron's support comes from solders, and the rest from true conservatives who aren't just pretending to be in favor of small government so they can support a surrender monkey.

You forgot to use the word "neocon." Paulistas always use "neocon" when describing us infidels who don't worship at the Altar of Ron Paul.

[Rider on the Rain]

So would I.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Nice try, but it's the same publication,

No one claimed it wasn't; that's not what's being discussed here, obviously. Equal parts desperate and transparent.

and you have exactly zero assurance that Paul wrote any of those articles.

You're stating, for the record, that Ron Paul didn/t write ANY of the issues of The RON PAUL SURVIVAL REPORT shown at the link in question? Because I haven't heard even The Head Prawn Himself make that claim, and I'm going to need a link to some credible source or another before swallowing that one, thank you.

Is this going to be the rote, Pavlovian Ron Paul/Paulestinian response from here on in, whenever yet another humiliatingly bizarre example of the former's geo-political paranoia surfaces anew? "... ummmmmmmmmm... errrrrrrrr... ahhhhhhhh... mustabeensomestafferorsomething, ohisthatthephonegottagobyenow!" Because I gotta tell you, in all honesty: It Is To Laugh.

Funny that nobody seems to want to argue the substance of any of the articles, or present contrary evidence...

In typically adorable splayfooted Paulestinian fashion, you've managed to get all tangled up in your own inherently contradictory non-arguments. If, as you (quasi-)claim, Ron paul isn't the author of said articles, then there's no need for anyone to "refute" same. (Duh.) "Refuting" only becomes a factor once Paul's authorship is finally owned up to established. Which is it, now...?

No, they're too busy screaming "anti-Semite" to deal with such trivial matters as whether or not the articles were

See above.

If this is the level of argumentation at FR, i feel very frightened for the Republic.

No more so than I, most assuredly... and for precisely the same reasons. (*snicker*)

[KevinDavis]

[JerseyHighlander]

People here attempting to smear Ron Paul regarding his position on shutting down the Palestine Information Office are talking incoherently. It’s plainly clear freepers do not know GW Bush’s position on it, Schultz’s court case, the Kemp and Dole bills, Matti Peled’s interference on part of the PIO office in Washington DC, UN interference, and just about every other fact regarding the situation at the time.

Paul put together a very small blurb which is 100% factual, though slightly biased (towards a “freedom first!” bias), and sent it out to his subscribers in teh days before the internet.

LSUFan has attempted a smear campaign without even attempting to construct a narrative that would show how or why what Paul said is wrong, or anti-American, or bad politics, or even “not nice”.

So until someone can build up something more than one line school yard retorts and pictures stolen from other websites, freepers need to give it a rest because you are making this website look ridiculous.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Everything Ron Paul said regarding Helms is 100% true.

You can actually PROVE that Jesse helms was "bought and paid for" by Israel? Really? How exciting -- !!!

Go ahead.

No. Seriously.

Receipts. Bank records. Whatever you've got.

OnetwothreeGO!

[::settles back with popcorn, soda, and a politely expectant smile::]

[steadfastconservative]

How can someone who blames the U.S. for the attacks on 9/11 and who would unilaterally withdraw our troops from Iraq be a freedom warrior? Ron Paul might be a freedom warrior in the sense that he is an advocate of a smaller government at home but he would risk all of our freedoms by having the U.S. run and hide from the Islamofascists abroad.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Paul put together a very small blurb which is 100% factual, though slightly biased (towards a “freedom first!” bias), and sent it out to his subscribers in teh days before the internet.

Ah. So now your story is that Ron PAUL IS, in plain point of fact, the author of said newsletters...?

Here's a helpful, friendly little suggestion: try playing just one side of the net at a time, Mr. McEnroe.

you are making this website look ridiculous.

The irony here is almost palpable. Seriously. ;)

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Quick! JerseyHighlander is going to conclusively prove that Jesse Helms was a helpless, bought-and-paid-for catspaw for Israel! Come see! Come see! ;)