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The Robertson Effect? (by Hugh Hewitt)
Townhall.com ^ | November 8, 2007 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 11/08/2007 12:13:54 PM PST by EveningStar

When Rudy Giuliani captured the endorsement of Christian Coalition founder and 700 Club host Pat Robertson Wednesday, many heads turned. Why did it happen? What does it mean?...

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008endorsements; christiancoalition; christianvote; hewitt; hughhewitt; patrobertson; rinostampede; rudygiuliani
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1 posted on 11/08/2007 12:13:55 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

It means Robertson is senile?!


2 posted on 11/08/2007 12:14:54 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time! (http://www.byj.co.kr))
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To: Tamar1973

Or desperate for significance.


3 posted on 11/08/2007 12:16:11 PM PST by Grut
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To: EveningStar
Hopefully it means that all questions regarding Pat Robertson’s cognitive abilities have been cleared up for conservative Evangelicals.

Time to hang it up, Pat.

4 posted on 11/08/2007 12:16:35 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: EveningStar
He must have bought into the “Anyone but Hillary” rage and decided to support the guy that certain polls say can beat her. It’s the only reason I can think of, if that isn’t it then he has gone completely against everything he stood for.
5 posted on 11/08/2007 12:22:04 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

So ALL conservative evangelicals respect Pat Robertson’s opinion? Give me a break.


6 posted on 11/08/2007 12:22:31 PM PST by He'sComingBack!
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To: EveningStar

A rooty toot endorses the Rudy Toot. What a thrill!


7 posted on 11/08/2007 12:22:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Oh, why can't a woman be more like a man?)
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To: TigersEye

It’s another post by Hugh trying to minimize anyone but Mitt.

The fact is that Pat still has tons of people that will follow him to the ends of the earth. This probably has an effect on them. I’m just glad I’m not one of those people.


8 posted on 11/08/2007 12:25:14 PM PST by spacekicker
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To: spacekicker
I'd sooner vote for Mitt than Rudy. In fact I won't vote for Rudy. Ever!

My preference is Duncan Hunter with Thompson running a distant and extremely weak second.

9 posted on 11/08/2007 12:27:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Oh, why can't a woman be more like a man?)
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To: EveningStar

It means little more than, “Pat Robertson’s brain has left the building...”

Why only the mention of Guiliani and Romney?

I would hope that the folks over at TownHall aren’t limiting their selection to these two. Yikes.


10 posted on 11/08/2007 12:27:47 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: EveningStar

It means that rooite told him he would visit the Whithouse often and that he could be the next “Billy Graham” (in pat’s mind).

LLS


11 posted on 11/08/2007 12:29:21 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: He'sComingBack!

“So ALL conservative evangelicals respect Pat Robertson’s opinion?”

No, but those who did now have their issues cleared up.


12 posted on 11/08/2007 12:31:22 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: spacekicker
It’s another post by Hugh trying to minimize anyone but Mitt.

This and other views by Hugh have left him useless to the right IMO. I listen to the guy once in a while, but just about always come away with the same conclusion.

On some things he's good, but what value is that if it's just going to lead people to think his views on this type of matter is also reasoned?

13 posted on 11/08/2007 12:31:37 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: EveningStar
What I find most amusing about the recent spate of endorsements is that FR is full of people declaring the Evangelicals will vote one way or another in lockstep. Then, when a prominent Evangelical comes out with something like this, the same folks are out declaring how they are able to think for themselves, and would never follow such leaders.
14 posted on 11/08/2007 12:40:44 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: EveningStar

This is one of those endorsements that only hurts the endorser.


15 posted on 11/08/2007 12:43:40 PM PST by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“On some things he’s good, but what value is that if it’s just going to lead people to think his views on this type of matter is also reasoned?”


Hugh doesn’t analyze, he only cheer leads, the first election I went through with him (early 90s?) he was so convincing and positive about the outcome that I distrusted my own take on the situation. Hugh turned out to be totally wrong, I have learned that he only has one speed, “salesman”.


16 posted on 11/08/2007 12:50:53 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: SampleMan

I agree with you!!There is no other way to put it..CBN will lose and it will be because of this..He might as well have backed Hillary Clinton..


17 posted on 11/08/2007 12:52:28 PM PST by PLD
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To: ansel12

Well he’s too much of a (political) party animal for me. If it’s handed down from on high by the RP, count Hugh on board. I haven’t been able to back that idea at all since 1992.

I agree with you, and what he is selling I find I’m not able to buy, all too often.


18 posted on 11/08/2007 12:54:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: Grut
There are 250,000 grandmas nationwide that see this as significant.

Those votes won't matter much.

However, IMO there'll be a wave of voters on Feb 5th that endorse Rudy in spite of religious differences.

Remember, until Reagan the evangelical south typically voted dim.

It's a relatively small percentage of people that will vote AGAINST Rudy due to his position on abortion or gays. Far more will vote against him because of his hard-line stance against the jihad.

Whether the socons care to admit it or not, Rudy would put many traditionally blue states in play in the general election, including CA and NY.

I don't believe he'd lose a single red state in the process.

19 posted on 11/08/2007 1:01:41 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Tamar1973
It means Robertson is senile?!

AAARRRRGGGH! Ya beat me to it.

Obviously, that is INDEED what it means!


20 posted on 11/08/2007 1:02:23 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: LexBaird

I guess what you are missing is the concept of having principles.


21 posted on 11/08/2007 1:02:24 PM PST by Sloth (Democrats and GOPers are to government what Jeffrey Dahmer and Michael Jackson are to babysitting)
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To: LexBaird
LOL, yes, sort of like when many here declare for years that they hate the GOP, have total disdain for “party members” and refuse to fund the RNC, and then fret about the supposed breakup or splitting of the party!
22 posted on 11/08/2007 1:02:36 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: DoughtyOne
OTOH, I think Hugh has the best guest line-up in talk radio. Some really fine minds and analysis.

Even though Hugh is big for Romney, I thought he was pretty candid in reporting that Robertson does still have a lot of influence among evangelicals.

23 posted on 11/08/2007 1:06:09 PM PST by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: EveningStar
What does it mean?..

It means that Pat Robertson is willing to trade his immortal soul for temporal power.

G-d help Pat in his quest for worldly power.

Pat is in league with the Evil One.

Pat now supports the American genicide.

The murder of 3500 innocent babies a day.

shalom b'shem Yah'shua
24 posted on 11/08/2007 1:06:45 PM PST by XeniaSt (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: EveningStar

Pat Robertson succumbed to fear.


25 posted on 11/08/2007 1:09:47 PM PST by donna (Duncan Hunter: US Army, 1969-1971, with service in Vietnam)
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To: donna

Most people would agree that Pat Robertson is three times as well know as Dobson is . . and three times as influential.


26 posted on 11/08/2007 1:15:14 PM PST by americanflyer1234
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To: colorado tanker

I know that Hugh has a good following and I’m not here to dump on any of them. I’m simply expressing my view of him. I don’t think Hugh is evil. I think he supports what he thinks is sound policy. I just firmly disagree more than I’d like to think I should have to.

He does have a good interview line-up. I’ll grant you that, but he also interviews folks who agree with him when their views seriously grate me. Some of those interviews make me want to take a hammer radio. LOL

Thanks for the comments.


27 posted on 11/08/2007 1:19:05 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: EveningStar

28 posted on 11/08/2007 1:21:18 PM PST by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy... I'm the cartoonist for iowapresidentialwatch.com)
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To: americanflyer1234

Pat Robertson ran for president so more non-Christian’s know of him. That could make them think that the endorsement of Rudy will have more clout with Christians than it really does.


29 posted on 11/08/2007 1:22:05 PM PST by donna (Duncan Hunter: US Army, 1969-1971, with service in Vietnam)
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To: Mariner
his hard-line stance against the jihad.

Apparently, Rudy is not "hard-line" enough to repudiate the support of a man (Robertson) who wrote an article blaming America for 911. Pat has renounced the article but still has it proudly on his website.

30 posted on 11/08/2007 1:25:24 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: Mariner

I meant to say that Pat has NOT renounced the article.


31 posted on 11/08/2007 1:26:46 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: All
Pat can believe what he wants to believe. Rudy nominated 75
judges when he was mayor of NYC at an 8-1 Dem to Pub ratio.
32 posted on 11/08/2007 1:29:40 PM PST by TigersEye (Oh, why can't a woman be more like a man?)
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To: EveningStar

It might be important for sheeple who follow leaders rather than the Word. I could hardly care less about Pat Robertson or any pharisee.


33 posted on 11/08/2007 1:36:42 PM PST by Seruzawa (Attila the Hun... wasn't he a liberal?)
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To: EveningStar

How about, it means Hillary has a Pat Robertson file and she wants him to support Rudy?


34 posted on 11/08/2007 1:38:14 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Call me a pro-life zealot with a 1-track mind.)
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To: americanflyer1234
Most people would agree that Pat Robertson is three times as well know as Dobson is . . and three times as influential.

That should even out after this endorsement.
35 posted on 11/08/2007 1:43:58 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: americanflyer1234
Most people would agree that Pat Robertson is three times as well know as Dobson is . . and three times as influential

"Most" people don't pay any attention at all to these religion merchants.

36 posted on 11/08/2007 1:44:42 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: DoughtyOne
I will concede Hugh is at times a cheerleader and he really blew the Harriet Myers fiasco.

There are times I want to rip the radio out when he's interviewing Irwin, the liberal law professor. OTOH, listening to Irwin falls into the "know thine enemy" category.

Out here he plays in evening drive time when the main competition is a soft banter, sports-oriented show, so I do listen to him often (unless I've gotten my fill of news and politics on FR, that is).

37 posted on 11/08/2007 1:59:48 PM PST by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: EveningStar

I don’t understand how any conservative could trust Guiliani regarding Supreme Court nominations.


38 posted on 11/08/2007 2:06:00 PM PST by stevem
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To: colorado tanker

I agree with your toughts here. For the well grounded, there is a some benefit from listening to Hugh. I have listened to him interview that guy also, and it can drive you nuts to be sure.


39 posted on 11/08/2007 2:06:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: Abathar
"He must have bought into the “Anyone but Hillary” rage and decided to support the guy that certain polls say can beat her. It’s the only reason I can think of, if that isn’t it then he has gone completely against everything he stood for."

Even if that is why he did, he's gone against everything he CLAIMED he stood for, IMHO.

40 posted on 11/08/2007 2:54:46 PM PST by sweet_diane (We lived our little drama.... and thankfully it is over. Thank you Coach Saban!)
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To: EveningStar
What does it mean?...

You'd rather have Mitt get it?

You'd rather have McCain get it?

You'd rather have Paul get it?

You'd rather have Fred get it?

41 posted on 11/08/2007 2:54:50 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LibLieSlayer
"It means that rooite told him he would visit the Whithouse often and that he could be the next “Billy Graham” (in pat’s mind)."

I've never had much use for 'tv preachers', yet Billy Graham was different. Pat Robertson couldn't even come close to filling those shoes, IMHO.

42 posted on 11/08/2007 2:57:33 PM PST by sweet_diane (We lived our little drama.... and thankfully it is over. Thank you Coach Saban!)
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To: EveningStar
"The MSM has never, ever come close to understanding the evangelical voter. MSM thinks of the group as a sort of carnival of gap-toothed, snake-handling, rural post box owning weed chewers. They will assume that Robertson is a general with many divisions, and representative of a much more significant following than he has. Robertson's endorsement will thus be reported as a breakthrough for Giuliani, and a reassurance to fence-sitters that the mayor's got the momentum they were hoping to see."

I disagree. The MSM will tout the endorsement because they want Joodi to be the Republican candidate. He is the most liberal.

yitbos

43 posted on 11/08/2007 3:12:15 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: sweet_diane

Yes, Billy Graham is truly a man of GOD in a sea of posers.

LLS


44 posted on 11/08/2007 3:21:22 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Elsie

Did you read the article?


45 posted on 11/08/2007 3:37:48 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Sloth
I guess what you are missing is the concept of having principles.

And I guess you are missing the concept of irony.

46 posted on 11/08/2007 5:24:10 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: EveningStar

yes


47 posted on 11/08/2007 6:11:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

good :)


48 posted on 11/08/2007 6:12:03 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: spacekicker
The fact is that Pat still has tons of people that will follow him to the ends of the earth.

If only they would...
49 posted on 11/09/2007 3:44:29 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: EveningStar

50 posted on 11/09/2007 7:40:26 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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