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Nominated at the convention?(Vanity)
11/7/07 | self

Posted on 11/07/2007 10:50:27 AM PST by GQuagmire

What are the chances that the Republican nominee for President will be determined at the convention next August? And if so, will that hurt our chances in the general election in November.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; brokeredconvention; elections
I'm asking not get flamed,but it seems as if there won't be a clear cut nominee before the convention.
1 posted on 11/07/2007 10:50:27 AM PST by GQuagmire
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To: GQuagmire
The last "brokered" convention was the Republican convention of 1952. Dwight Eisenhower got the nomination over Robert Taft, Harold Stassen and a number of other favorite sons and dark horses.

Check out old kinescopes of speeches at that convention, particularly Everett Dirksen's rant against Tom Dewey, the young Nelson Rockefeller and others who wanted Eisenhower instead of Taft, Dirksen's favorite.

Brokered conventions are always exciting, but because they are not scripted, they terrify party professionals. You never know what is going to happen and how the press is going to spin it.

2 posted on 11/07/2007 10:57:10 AM PST by Publius (A = A)
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To: Common Tator

Ping. What are your memories of the brokered conventions of the 1940’s?


3 posted on 11/07/2007 10:57:44 AM PST by Publius (A = A)
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To: GQuagmire

It’ll be basically over by the first couple of weeks in February..............


4 posted on 11/07/2007 10:59:53 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

and the winner is....................?


5 posted on 11/07/2007 11:01:14 AM PST by GQuagmire (Giggety,Giggety,Giggety)
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To: GQuagmire

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/primaries/


6 posted on 11/07/2007 11:02:42 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: GQuagmire

Your guess is as good as mine at this point in time.........I’m hoping for a FRed Thompson landslide...............


7 posted on 11/07/2007 11:03:40 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: GQuagmire

Really low chance


8 posted on 11/07/2007 11:06:39 AM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

Alright, who is it going to be?


9 posted on 11/07/2007 11:10:27 AM PST by GQuagmire (Giggety,Giggety,Giggety)
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To: GQuagmire

Fred Thompson


10 posted on 11/07/2007 11:13:40 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: GQuagmire

I can see only one scenario where someone was nominated at the national convention. If something changed just prior to it and Dick “Darth” Cheney decided to run. I would be delighted if that happened.


11 posted on 11/07/2007 11:22:29 AM PST by McGruff (A "Big Time" Fred Thompson supporter!)
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To: GQuagmire

Actually, I would prefer a GOP grass roots movement that stood up “favorite son” candidates in every state primary on a campaign of (and electing delegates on) a primary platform of “None of the Above”.

Then as it progressed to obtaining a majority, it could become a pre-convention coalition that looked for the GOP dark horse - based on conservative principals, immigration and complete border enforcement before “reform” on general immigration rules, immediate expanded immigration for the highly skilled - including H2b reform, and with those attributes and positions (and others) found in a great communicator. And the overly ambitious existing leadership class need not apply.


12 posted on 11/07/2007 11:31:01 AM PST by Wuli
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To: GQuagmire

I’m actually HOPING for a good old fashioned convention fight.


13 posted on 11/07/2007 11:39:42 AM PST by Grunthor (Liberals need to be reminded that The Holy Bible is more than just God’s opinion.)
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To: Publius
The last "brokered" convention was the Republican convention of 1952.

Even that convention only took 1 ballot, since the decision was made in a vote on delegate credentials, where a number of state delegations for Taft were thrown out and Eisenhower delegates were seated instead.

Just before that point they started choosing candidates on the basis of a simple majority, instead of the previously required two-thirds majority. When it took 2/3, and there were a lot of states who ran local guys as favorite sons, deadlocks were frequent, and candidates were often chosen by back room deals in '[cigar]smoke-filled rooms'. In addition the vast majority of delegates were chosen by party caucuses without primaries. Back in the 1920's one democrat convention took over 100 ballots, at a rate of two or three ballots a day. If that happenned this time, we won't have a nominee until October.

14 posted on 11/07/2007 11:41:21 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Ron Paul Criminality: http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/10/paul_bot)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla; Grunthor

If there is a brokered convention,the lamestream media will be all over the Republicans.....can’t get their house in order,disorganized,blah,blah,blah......


15 posted on 11/07/2007 11:45:33 AM PST by GQuagmire (Giggety,Giggety,Giggety)
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To: GQuagmire

I don’t care about the LSM, I want to see a knock-down, drag-out, battle Royale between the 3 or 4 top candidates at the convention, franbkly it would be the most excitement at one of these things since Pat Buchanons’ speech in ‘92.


16 posted on 11/07/2007 11:57:41 AM PST by Grunthor (Liberals need to be reminded that The Holy Bible is more than just God’s opinion.)
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To: GQuagmire

Intrade has a new set of contracts, covering the possibility of brokered conventions. Bid is at 15%, ask is at 25%, earlier sold at 50%.

Brokered Party Conventions in 2008

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The 2008 Republican Pres. Nominee to be selected at a Brokered Convention M 15.0 25.0 50.0 2 new

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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts


17 posted on 12/19/2007 11:56:58 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: GQuagmire

I don’t see a problem with the nomination being decided at the convention. With any luck, we could also get the primaries back to a reasonable schedule, instead of having the two nominees determined at the same time baseball spring training is just starting. This rush to decision time is a national mistake, and the sooner we get over it, the better.


18 posted on 12/20/2007 12:03:06 AM PST by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember what you said.)
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To: GQuagmire

I think it would be a disater against Hillary but probably not Obama. The news junkie in me would love to see a brokered convention and it is possible that all the drama would attract voters who normally tune conventions out. But I don’t believe it suits the GOP very well unless a darkhorse “compromise” candidate came forth that most could live with and actually unify the party base. It would need to be somebody already vetted and financially capable of putting together a campaign almost overnight. Can’t tell you who that man could be.


19 posted on 12/20/2007 12:17:49 AM PST by Tall_Texan (No Third Term For Bill Clinton!)
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