Some good news -- for a change.
Posted on 11/04/2007 7:58:19 AM PST by Zakeet
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - New research reports posted on the American Cancer Society's Web site late Tuesday suggest that a Florida man with no medical training may have invented a machine that could lead to a cure for cancer. "It gives me goose bumps that there might be a better way to do this and it looks like it's happening," said John Kanzius, inventor of the machine.
Kanzius, 63, is a former broadcast executive from Pennsylvania who wondered if his background in physics and radio could come in handy in treating the disease from which he suffers himself.
Created in his Sanibel Island, Fla., garage, Kanzius' contraption kills cancer cells using non-invasive radio waves, WPBF News 25 reported.
Kanzius explained that the science of his machine uses a solution filled with nanoparticles, each of which measure no more than one-billionth of a meter. A test subject would be injected with either gold or carbon nanoparticles, which would make their way through the body and attach to the cancerous cells. The test subject would then enter the machine and receive a dose of radio frequency waves, theoretically heating and killing the cancerous cells in moments and leaving nearby cells untouched.
In a recent experiment using his invention, scientists at the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Texas, received some promising results.
According to a report due to be released in Decemeber in the American Cancer Society's Journal, Cancer, during the experiment, six rabbits with liver tumors were injected with a nanoparticle solution and placed inside Kanzius' radio-frequency machine. Two minutes later, the tumors were completely gone and there was no major damage to the surrounding healthy cells, according to the report.
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Some good news -- for a change.
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“I believe EVERY SINGLE other Republican candidate would be just as tough on terrorism “
I do not doubt your beliefe. All I’m saying is that Rudy has demonstrated his leadership. I seem to be the only one counting on evidence while everyone is dismissing either his demonstrated leadership (ALA Churchill)on 9/11 or dismissing it as his only evidence of leadership. To ignore what specifically he has done and to then judge him against the others with their lack of evidence of leadership is a specious premise.
Why do the nanoparticles attach preferentially to the tumors vs. healthy cells?
Sorry. Wrong p[ost MR. Moderator, please remove my last post. Tha nk you
Here is what I meant to post.
This man’s research has a far better chance of showing results for the betterment of mankind than embryonic stem cell research ever will. There are currently 1t least 72 therapies using adult/cord stem cells available for treatment. Embryonic stem cells = 0 with none on the horizon.
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Don’t worry the FDA will squash the invention in No TimE!!
I really hope it works.
FIGHT ON!
Man, that 2008 Presidential Election sure is a cancer spreading throughout the media. Maybe there’s some way to put it into remission for another 8 months?
Why would they do that, and how would they know?
Interestingly the FDA is much easier on therapeutic ‘devices’ than they are on drugs. In this instance it wouldn’t be the ‘machine’ per se that they would scrutinize most. It would be the nanoparticles and any potential toxicity they might have. Cancer cells are generally more mitotically active than normal cells (with the exception of that regenerate skin, hair, the lining of the gut, blood cells etc., and it may be that the radiofrequency energy, augmented by the nanoparticles, selectively kills cells that are actively dividing. It’s a cool concept.
Can we use Kansius’ machine on terrorists? I suspect not any more than we can really use it on cancers.
Like they did with my magic carburetor that lets your car run on water!
Rudy is a thug. His behavior as a prosecutor was little better than Nifong’s.
The nanotechnology is engineered to seek out certain chemicals present in Cancer. There are chemical markers given off by certain cancers. In my case, the chemical marker for my cancer is called a CEA count. It indicates the possible presence of cancer if the marker is above 3.4 for my case and age.
I have heard of CEA numbers at 300 and higher; mine is currently at 3.2 and going lower. Cancer is also indicated by what is called “hyper metabolic activity”. This is where the Growing Cancer cells are rapidly growing and metabolizing glucose. This is the foundation for a PET scan.
Fortunately or unfortunately, one becomes a knowledgeable resource for stuff like this after 9 operations, 3 rounds of Chemotherapy and a violent anaphylactic shock reaction to the Chemo therapy, I’m still standing.
ping - Sanibel? Hmmmmm, they’ve got some intelligent guys there...
They didn't have nanoparticles thirty years ago, or the means to control where they went in the body.
I may be a bit cynical.....alright, I’m a LOT cynical...but I would think if there is promise to this system, the American Cancer Society would be hesitant to let it ruin the lucrative little setup they have going.
It doesn't say in the article, but they may be tagged with antibodies that recognize proteins only found in the tumor cells.
There is no carburetor Kemosabe, none at all, that will allow an internal combustion engine to run on water.. No such thing whatsoever.. 100mpg carburetor, OTOH, is a viable working concept.... Just gotta change the fuel atomization rate by preheating the gasoline and adjusting the jets..
Then, a "buzz" will be created, and reported on.
Then, he can sell it to those in a financial position to buy.
Then, the Dems will cry, "It should be available for EVERYone...not just the wealthy," and THEN, you just pulled an end-around on the Dems and we got our wish!
The post-it note invention was poo poo'd by those in charge, so the inventor provided some to the secretaries in the office...they loved them, and started requisitioning them. This created enough buzz for management to start asking questions, and my father was part of the original sales team for the test market. He told VIPs to sell the farm and invest in post-it notes, because they were soooooooo well received in the market place that 3M would soar in revenues. The 'ol end-around worked...the only bad thing is, I believe the man only received $1 for his invention...the going price for an invention invented while working at a company. Bummer, huh?
Good for you. Be strong...keep fighting.
Stick and move, keep your left up and bring the right hand thunder if dat bum comes at ya again.
It wont happen until another illness is prevalent and it's treatment as expensive, comes along...
They remember what happened to all those careers, hospitals, etc, when TB and polio were licked....
See my post 24. It’s a shame to have to shame people in charge to do the right thing, but the Dems run the “feelings” in this country and if we can shame them into doing the right thing...they can bring the FDA and AMA along with them...I think it’s possible. The public outcry would make them do the right thing. Okay, I’m an optimist, but we’ve got to to TRY!
You sound like you have the right stuff to KEEP standing - and that is the most effective ‘treatment’ -
BINGO
Really, really smart nanoparticles, I guess.
Maybe he’ll take it to a foreign country and actually win.
This guy must have found certain properties that only cancer cells have—that don’t change, even when they mutate, and then found the element(s) that are attracted to those properties. Then, the radio waves cause those molecules to move back and forth quickly (which I believe is the same action that causes heat or cold) and you have his success.
me TOO...
‘kills cancer cells using non-invasive radio waves’
here’s a tip :
If mr Kanzius wants an extra powerful RADIO WAVE KILLER he should try radio waves from AIR AMERICA..heck they’d kill anything....! shoot they are even killin themselves ..most of their outlets have dried up lets hope for the same w/cancer cells.....
LOL - so true!
wow ping
M.D. Anderson is one of the best cancer hospitals in the world.
I think there is a temperature difference between normal cells and cancer cells. Perhaps the nanoparticles are attracted to the elevated temp.
Actually, if you read both, they do not appear to be even remotely similar.
They did both get the same result, which is wide skepticism. Rightly so, IMHO.
Here's one way it might work. You make arrays of millions of different antibodies on silicon and put the chip in a solution of cultured cancer cells. Do the same with cultured non-cancer cells. Coat the nanoparticles with the antibodies the cancers cells stuck to preferentially compared to the non-cancer cells.
Originated in the 1930’s http://www.rife-machine.com
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google ‘poly mva’ and/or dr. jeff mueller in altamonte springs, fl.
poly mva apparently “rights” the ions and cures cancer (or stops it). read up on it. he’s never lost a patient.
Who cares? Any new light on defeating the menace of cancer is a good thing.
==> “This guy must have found certain properties that only cancer cells have....” <==
Not mentioned in anything I have seen. And what WAS mentioned was both gold and carbon particles, which have vastly different properties. Besides, what you describe is the holy grail of almost all of the current cancer research. The capability to find unique cancer cell characteristics that can be targeted by antibodies is being pursued all over the world, by all of the major drug companies and many other organizations.
Until the mechanism that purportedly causes these particles to preferentially attach to cancer cells is understood and controllable, this is snake oil.
My wife is just two years past breast cancer surgery, chemotherapy, and radiation treatments, and is now suffering side effects from the prophylactic (maintenance) drugs that she will take for the next 8 years. I would love to see a cure, but I do not want to raise false hopes.
It seems possible. When I had Hodgkins, they fed me chemicals that went to the cancerous nodes, so they could get better CAT scans of them before and during treatment. This way, instead of taking a CAT scan, you zap the nodes.
I’d have to check, but I don’t think nano particles were around 30 years ago for this kind of experiment. They’ve been around a while now, but I think their availability for research is fairly recent.
That chemical - radioactively tagged glucose for a PET scan, for instance - is used by all cells, but consumed at slightly higher rates by more rapidly growing cells - such as tumors.
It is preferentially absorbed by tumors because of its chemical properties as a natural energy source for metabolic functions, and the slightly higher rate of consumption of tumors due to their higher growth rate. However, mucous membranes, hair and nails, and blood cells also absorb at a higher rate.
Hey skeptics and nay-sayers: this item has also been the topic of a previous thread.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1890090/posts
In addition, Dr. Stephen Curly is a highly credentialed and well known oncologist and physician working on this treatment protocol at M.D. Anderson. His PowerPoint slides indicate that he (Dr. Curley) has also teamed up with Nobel prize winning chemists Robert Hogue and Rick Smalley at Rice University. He also admits the difficulty in targeting the cancer cells but also states that it is very possible. http://www.manp.org/assets/pdf/erieapril2007.pdf
Here are further comments and a bit about his credentials at nano-health alliance.
Perhaps this has the potential to be more than “Snake Oil”. Lets cut this some slack. For all the families ravaged by cancer, let us hope and pray that Dr. Curley and his team of Nobel Prize winning chemists and researchers can turn this basement invention (which was “ripped off” from 30 year-old research /sarcasm off) into something great for mankind.
Best of luck to you..I pray for all cancer victims and give thanks that I have survived for four years after diagnosis.
The PET scan has been described to me in the same way..it marks cells with high growth rate. I get my next one in Dec.
So maybe this invention is not wishfull thinking or bad science..but a real alternative to chemo and radiation.
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