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Victim pulls own gun, kills would-be robber
The Miami Herald ^ | Thu, Nov. 01, 2007 | TIM CHAPMAN AND DAVID OVALLE

Posted on 11/01/2007 8:17:31 AM PDT by nin_kasi

For the second time in two days in South Florida, victims have opened fire on armed robbers. And both gunmen ended up dead.

In the latest incident overnight, a man sitting in a car alongside a woman was confronted by a man dressed all in black, wearing a ski mask and carrying a gun. He demanded money -- and to see the woman strip naked, Miami police said.

The man in the car, a security guard from a nearby Food Giant, pulled his own gun and shot at the man in the mask. The robber ran, threw his gun down in the mud and collapsed.

The intended victims were unharmed.

The would-be robber was dead.

The location of the shooting, 115 NE 78th St., is just outside a two-story brown apartment complex in the shadow of a 15-story condo rising at the northern edge of Little Haiti.

Just over a day earlier, a ski-masked man trying to rob Diaz Groceries in Naranja was shot dead by the owner.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; armedcitizen; banglist; flarmedcitizen; rkba; selfdefense
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1 posted on 11/01/2007 8:17:32 AM PDT by nin_kasi
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To: nin_kasi
The would-be robber was dead.

Well, it's for the best.

2 posted on 11/01/2007 8:19:08 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: nin_kasi
"The man in the car, a security guard from a nearby Food Giant, pulled his own gun and shot at the man in the mask"

Does that mean he shot the perp in the face?

and...this story has a nice happy ending!!!
3 posted on 11/01/2007 8:20:13 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Never Forget!)
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To: nin_kasi

I love starting the day with a feel-good story! BTT.


4 posted on 11/01/2007 8:20:30 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: nin_kasi

Sounds like donning a ski mask is NOT good for your health.


5 posted on 11/01/2007 8:20:51 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Never Forget!)
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To: nin_kasi
pulled his own gun and shot at the man in the mask

Two eye holes, a mouth hole and a bullet hole.

6 posted on 11/01/2007 8:26:03 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: nin_kasi
And one of their Judges now rules Massachusetts' courts.
7 posted on 11/01/2007 8:26:25 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: nin_kasi

Little Haiti ?


8 posted on 11/01/2007 8:30:25 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: nin_kasi
A hold-up is bad for you. Criminals don't learn crime doesn't pay.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 11/01/2007 8:31:54 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: KarlInOhio

...in a A**hole...........


10 posted on 11/01/2007 8:32:28 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

No, Thailand.............


11 posted on 11/01/2007 8:32:50 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: nin_kasi

#1 most hazardous profession - robbing armed citizens.


12 posted on 11/01/2007 8:35:06 AM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul 08' - Magnet for America's kookiest nutballs)
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To: nin_kasi

Happy Halloween, masked man!


13 posted on 11/01/2007 8:39:20 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: nin_kasi
"The intended victims were unharmed.
The would-be robber was dead."

I just love these stories with a happy ending!

See, it IS possible to find uplifting stories in the daily newspaper - you just have to look!

14 posted on 11/01/2007 8:39:40 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: wideawake

Nice ending....two more scumbags the taxpayer doesn’t have to pay some damn head shrink to figure out why they had a bad childhood.


15 posted on 11/01/2007 8:41:14 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: nin_kasi

Another perfect ending!


16 posted on 11/01/2007 8:42:21 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: nin_kasi

That brings a tear to my eye.


17 posted on 11/01/2007 8:45:05 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: SwinneySwitch; DaveLoneRanger

Armed Citizen Ping?


18 posted on 11/01/2007 8:45:43 AM PDT by Friend_from_the_Frozen_North (If you are, as Rush would say, "A Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance" don't waste my time...)
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To: pissant

This is an ‘Urban Renewal’ program I can get behind.
Will also help in Jail overcrowding....
Love a plan....


19 posted on 11/01/2007 8:45:58 AM PDT by xrmusn
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To: nin_kasi

This is going to put a real dent in the ski mask market. Other than that, it’s all good


20 posted on 11/01/2007 8:46:07 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: The Louiswu

The mask seems like a pretty effective place to shoot at somebody.


21 posted on 11/01/2007 8:50:39 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: dljordan

A tear to your eye and a hole to his head...lol


22 posted on 11/01/2007 8:51:11 AM PDT by steel_resolve (Think pitch forks.)
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To: nin_kasi

Thank God the victims are unharmed.


23 posted on 11/01/2007 8:52:56 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Billthedrill

Yep. A cup of coffee and good news works for me too.


24 posted on 11/01/2007 8:58:31 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: nin_kasi

Evil victim people, shooting innocent robbers!
Should haaaave used diplomaccccy. (/sarky)


25 posted on 11/01/2007 9:13:34 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (ffffFReeeePeee!)
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To: nin_kasi
The man in the car, a security guard from a nearby Food Giant, pulled his own gun and shot at the man in the mask.

Now that's my kind of 'gun control.'

26 posted on 11/01/2007 9:15:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: nin_kasi

Now that’s a lot better than having to take the gun from the perp and shooting him.

Nice.

Unfortunately all the punks from Florida will now be heading up here to Illinois where the pickings are easier.


27 posted on 11/01/2007 9:15:35 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: nin_kasi; EdReform; Ladysmith; Petruchio; PeterPrinciple; alpha-8-25-02; F.J. Mitchell; B4Ranch; ...
(((Armed Citizen ping)))



You are being pinged because of your interest in every-day citizens using firearms to save life and limb.
Add me! / Remove me

Visit the Armed Citizen Archives!

For daily doses of armed citizenry, visit the Civilian Gun Defense Blog!



Thanks for everyone pinging me to some good stories here. I'll try to get the rest of them pinged before too long...I've been pretty swamped the past couple of weeks. Some very hush-hush projects going on that I'll enjoy sharing with you all when the time comes!
28 posted on 11/01/2007 9:35:17 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger ("Being normal is not necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage.")
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29 posted on 11/01/2007 9:38:01 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
For the second time in two days in South Florida, victims have opened fire on armed robbers. And both gunmen ended up dead.

Nice grouping.

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30 posted on 11/01/2007 9:47:57 AM PDT by arbooz ("Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man." H.L.Mencken)
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To: nin_kasi

An excellent start to my day, thanks for then post.


31 posted on 11/01/2007 9:49:11 AM PDT by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; nin_kasi

Thank you for the Ping and the Post! I Pray More and More People will Get a Concealed Carry License; I just Passed my Test on Monday for One!


32 posted on 11/01/2007 10:14:32 AM PDT by Kitty Mittens (To God Be All Excellent Praise!!)
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To: pissant

BUMP


33 posted on 11/01/2007 10:19:29 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: nin_kasi

Goes to show that if ski masks were banned, there would be no masked men.


34 posted on 11/01/2007 10:26:03 AM PDT by synbad600
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To: nin_kasi

Did he shoot the bad guy while the lady was undressing?


35 posted on 11/01/2007 10:41:31 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: nin_kasi

Well, here’s one that doesn’t need range time. Bravo!


36 posted on 11/01/2007 10:42:14 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: The Louiswu
Sounds like donning a ski mask is NOT good for your health.

It probably is okay in an appropriate venue like Vail Colorado. But for sure, not here in Miami, FL where we have a surplus of sheepdogs! Remember, Florida was the first to change the so called castle doctrine and the progenitor of modern "shall issue" CCW laws. You might say we're on the cutting edge of self defense legislation.

37 posted on 11/01/2007 10:49:51 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Two eye holes, a mouth hole and a bullet hole.

Or a single bullet thru each of the aforementioned openings and appropriate leakage of bodily fluids therefrom.

38 posted on 11/01/2007 11:00:42 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: nin_kasi

Best news I’ve heard all morning.....

I love to see citizens “deal” with problems in this manner...
Think of the money saved and the public service accomplished by taking out trash like this.....

So clean.....so cheap.....so gratifying


39 posted on 11/01/2007 11:34:10 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: nin_kasi

“In the latest incident overnight, a man sitting in a car alongside a woman was confronted by a man dressed all in black, wearing a ski mask and carrying a gun. He demanded money — and to see the woman strip naked, Miami police said.

“The man in the car, a security guard from a nearby Food Giant, pulled his own gun and shot at the man in the mask.”

...We’ll just put that down as a “no”.


40 posted on 11/01/2007 11:39:44 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich!)
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To: synbad600; DaveLoneRanger
Goes to show that if ski masks were banned, there would be no masked men.

Two ski masks in two days tells we have a crime problem here and the only way to solve it is to regulate ski masks and require them to be registered with a 20 day waiting period...

41 posted on 11/01/2007 12:21:20 PM PDT by tubebender (My weight is perfect for my height... which varies...)
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To: nin_kasi

Hmmm ski mask both times. Spose it was the same guy?


42 posted on 11/01/2007 12:22:49 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

And you are more than welcome to them.


43 posted on 11/01/2007 12:24:12 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: nin_kasi

“...victims have opened fire on armed robbers. And both gunmen ended up dead.”

Um, huh?

Who’re the “gunmen” by this statement - the “victims” or the “robbers”? Poorly written.

Which brings to mind, why don’t they call them “criminals” or “perpetrators” or “suspects”, anything except “gunmen” (or “gentlemen”, 1 that really gets my goat!)? This terminology makes a connection between guns and scumbag criminals. I’d like to see them refer to some scum who sliced up someone with a big knife as a “knifeman”!


44 posted on 11/01/2007 12:25:12 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: The Louiswu

Waiting for the day when some numbskull liberal leftist politician demands that ski-masks be banned


45 posted on 11/01/2007 12:26:42 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: arthurus

Could have been a halloween zombie I suppose. The time period between the death of the first and the appearance if the second is about right. Shot him in the right spot the second time too.


46 posted on 11/01/2007 12:30:19 PM PDT by RetiredNavy
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To: RetiredNavy

He’s double-dead.


47 posted on 11/01/2007 12:34:53 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Yes, Little Haiti. A block away from crack whore alley (NE 79th Avenue, near Biscayne).


48 posted on 11/01/2007 12:35:09 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: KarlInOhio

>>Two eye holes, a mouth hole and a bullet hole<<

If he was good, there would be no bullet hole. ;)


49 posted on 11/01/2007 12:39:36 PM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: nin_kasi
The intended victims were unharmed.

The would-be robber was dead.

Exactly the way the FL shall issue CCW law was designed to work.

OK, I know the security guard could probably have gotten a permit to carry on the job even if the FL CCW law had not been enacted, but the outcome would be the same with either type permit as long as he had a gun.

50 posted on 11/01/2007 1:59:06 PM PDT by epow
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