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Victim pulls own gun, kills would-be robber
The Miami Herald ^
| Thu, Nov. 01, 2007
| TIM CHAPMAN AND DAVID OVALLE
Posted on 11/01/2007 8:17:31 AM PDT by nin_kasi
For the second time in two days in South Florida, victims have opened fire on armed robbers. And both gunmen ended up dead.
In the latest incident overnight, a man sitting in a car alongside a woman was confronted by a man dressed all in black, wearing a ski mask and carrying a gun. He demanded money -- and to see the woman strip naked, Miami police said.
The man in the car, a security guard from a nearby Food Giant, pulled his own gun and shot at the man in the mask. The robber ran, threw his gun down in the mud and collapsed.
The intended victims were unharmed.
The would-be robber was dead.
The location of the shooting, 115 NE 78th St., is just outside a two-story brown apartment complex in the shadow of a 15-story condo rising at the northern edge of Little Haiti.
Just over a day earlier, a ski-masked man trying to rob Diaz Groceries in Naranja was shot dead by the owner.
TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; armedcitizen; banglist; flarmedcitizen; rkba; selfdefense
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posted on
11/01/2007 8:17:32 AM PDT
by
nin_kasi
To: nin_kasi
The would-be robber was dead.Well, it's for the best.
2
posted on
11/01/2007 8:19:08 AM PDT
by
wideawake
(Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
To: nin_kasi
"The man in the car, a security guard from a nearby Food Giant, pulled his own gun and shot at the man in the mask"
Does that mean he shot the perp in the face?
and...this story has a nice happy ending!!!
3
posted on
11/01/2007 8:20:13 AM PDT
by
The Louiswu
(Never Forget!)
To: nin_kasi
I love starting the day with a feel-good story! BTT.
To: nin_kasi
Sounds like donning a ski mask is NOT good for your health.
5
posted on
11/01/2007 8:20:51 AM PDT
by
The Louiswu
(Never Forget!)
To: nin_kasi
pulled his own gun and shot at the man in the mask Two eye holes, a mouth hole and a bullet hole.
6
posted on
11/01/2007 8:26:03 AM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
To: nin_kasi
And one of their Judges now rules Massachusetts' courts.
7
posted on
11/01/2007 8:26:25 AM PDT
by
Diogenesis
(Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
To: nin_kasi
To: nin_kasi
A hold-up is bad for you. Criminals don't learn crime doesn't pay.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
9
posted on
11/01/2007 8:31:54 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: KarlInOhio
...in a A**hole...........
10
posted on
11/01/2007 8:32:28 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
No, Thailand.............
11
posted on
11/01/2007 8:32:50 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
To: nin_kasi
#1 most hazardous profession - robbing armed citizens.
12
posted on
11/01/2007 8:35:06 AM PDT
by
lormand
(Ron Paul 08' - Magnet for America's kookiest nutballs)
To: nin_kasi
Happy Halloween, masked man!
13
posted on
11/01/2007 8:39:20 AM PDT
by
Right Wing Assault
("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
To: nin_kasi
"The intended victims were unharmed.
The would-be robber was dead."I just love these stories with a happy ending!
See, it IS possible to find uplifting stories in the daily newspaper - you just have to look!
14
posted on
11/01/2007 8:39:40 AM PDT
by
Redbob
(WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
To: wideawake
Nice ending....two more scumbags the taxpayer doesn’t have to pay some damn head shrink to figure out why they had a bad childhood.
To: nin_kasi
16
posted on
11/01/2007 8:42:21 AM PDT
by
pissant
(Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
To: nin_kasi
That brings a tear to my eye.
17
posted on
11/01/2007 8:45:05 AM PDT
by
dljordan
To: SwinneySwitch; DaveLoneRanger
18
posted on
11/01/2007 8:45:43 AM PDT
by
Friend_from_the_Frozen_North
(If you are, as Rush would say, "A Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance" don't waste my time...)
To: pissant
This is an ‘Urban Renewal’ program I can get behind.
Will also help in Jail overcrowding....
Love a plan....
19
posted on
11/01/2007 8:45:58 AM PDT
by
xrmusn
To: nin_kasi
This is going to put a real dent in the ski mask market. Other than that, it’s all good
20
posted on
11/01/2007 8:46:07 AM PDT
by
paul51
(11 September 2001 - Never forget)
To: The Louiswu
The mask seems like a pretty effective place to shoot at somebody.
To: dljordan
A tear to your eye and a hole to his head...lol
22
posted on
11/01/2007 8:51:11 AM PDT
by
steel_resolve
(Think pitch forks.)
To: nin_kasi
Thank God the victims are unharmed.
23
posted on
11/01/2007 8:52:56 AM PDT
by
tioga
To: Billthedrill
Yep. A cup of coffee and good news works for me too.
24
posted on
11/01/2007 8:58:31 AM PDT
by
Bogtrotter52
(Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
To: nin_kasi
Evil victim people, shooting innocent robbers!
Should haaaave used diplomaccccy. (/sarky)
To: nin_kasi
The man in the car, a security guard from a nearby Food Giant, pulled his own gun and shot at the man in the mask.Now that's my kind of 'gun control.'
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posted on
11/01/2007 9:15:05 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: nin_kasi
Now that’s a lot better than having to take the gun from the perp and shooting him.
Nice.
Unfortunately all the punks from Florida will now be heading up here to Illinois where the pickings are easier.
To: nin_kasi; EdReform; Ladysmith; Petruchio; PeterPrinciple; alpha-8-25-02; F.J. Mitchell; B4Ranch; ...
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28
posted on
11/01/2007 9:35:17 AM PDT
by
DaveLoneRanger
("Being normal is not necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage.")
To: nin_kasi
29
posted on
11/01/2007 9:38:01 AM PDT
by
rightinthemiddle
(Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
To: DaveLoneRanger
For the second time in two days in South Florida, victims have opened fire on armed robbers. And both gunmen ended up dead.Nice grouping.
30
posted on
11/01/2007 9:47:57 AM PDT
by
arbooz
("Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man." H.L.Mencken)
To: nin_kasi
An excellent start to my day, thanks for then post.
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posted on
11/01/2007 9:49:11 AM PDT
by
monkeycard
(There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
To: DaveLoneRanger; nin_kasi
Thank you for the Ping and the Post! I Pray More and More People will Get a Concealed Carry License; I just Passed my Test on Monday for One!
32
posted on
11/01/2007 10:14:32 AM PDT
by
Kitty Mittens
(To God Be All Excellent Praise!!)
To: pissant
33
posted on
11/01/2007 10:19:29 AM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
(Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
To: nin_kasi
Goes to show that if ski masks were banned, there would be no masked men.
To: nin_kasi
Did he shoot the bad guy while the lady was undressing?
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posted on
11/01/2007 10:41:31 AM PDT
by
OldEagle
To: nin_kasi
Well, here’s one that doesn’t need range time. Bravo!
36
posted on
11/01/2007 10:42:14 AM PDT
by
FreedomPoster
(Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
To: The Louiswu
Sounds like donning a ski mask is NOT good for your health.It probably is okay in an appropriate venue like Vail Colorado. But for sure, not here in Miami, FL where we have a surplus of sheepdogs! Remember, Florida was the first to change the so called castle doctrine and the progenitor of modern "shall issue" CCW laws. You might say we're on the cutting edge of self defense legislation.
37
posted on
11/01/2007 10:49:51 AM PDT
by
ExSoldier
(Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
To: KarlInOhio
Two eye holes, a mouth hole and a bullet hole.Or a single bullet thru each of the aforementioned openings and appropriate leakage of bodily fluids therefrom.
38
posted on
11/01/2007 11:00:42 AM PDT
by
ExSoldier
(Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
To: nin_kasi
Best news I’ve heard all morning.....
I love to see citizens “deal” with problems in this manner...
Think of the money saved and the public service accomplished by taking out trash like this.....
So clean.....so cheap.....so gratifying
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posted on
11/01/2007 11:34:10 AM PDT
by
river rat
(Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: nin_kasi
“In the latest incident overnight, a man sitting in a car alongside a woman was confronted by a man dressed all in black, wearing a ski mask and carrying a gun. He demanded money — and to see the woman strip naked, Miami police said.
“The man in the car, a security guard from a nearby Food Giant, pulled his own gun and shot at the man in the mask.”
...We’ll just put that down as a “no”.
40
posted on
11/01/2007 11:39:44 AM PDT
by
RichInOC
(No! BAD Rich!)
To: synbad600; DaveLoneRanger
Goes to show that if ski masks were banned, there would be no masked men. Two ski masks in two days tells we have a crime problem here and the only way to solve it is to regulate ski masks and require them to be registered with a 20 day waiting period...
41
posted on
11/01/2007 12:21:20 PM PDT
by
tubebender
(My weight is perfect for my height... which varies...)
To: nin_kasi
Hmmm ski mask both times. Spose it was the same guy?
42
posted on
11/01/2007 12:22:49 PM PDT
by
arthurus
(Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
To: <1/1,000,000th%
And you are more than welcome to them.
43
posted on
11/01/2007 12:24:12 PM PDT
by
arthurus
(Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
To: nin_kasi
“...victims have opened fire on armed robbers. And both gunmen ended up dead.”
Um, huh?
Who’re the “gunmen” by this statement - the “victims” or the “robbers”? Poorly written.
Which brings to mind, why don’t they call them “criminals” or “perpetrators” or “suspects”, anything except “gunmen” (or “gentlemen”, 1 that really gets my goat!)? This terminology makes a connection between guns and scumbag criminals. I’d like to see them refer to some scum who sliced up someone with a big knife as a “knifeman”!
44
posted on
11/01/2007 12:25:12 PM PDT
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
To: The Louiswu
Waiting for the day when some numbskull liberal leftist politician demands that ski-masks be banned
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posted on
11/01/2007 12:26:42 PM PDT
by
Osage Orange
(The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
To: arthurus
Could have been a halloween zombie I suppose. The time period between the death of the first and the appearance if the second is about right. Shot him in the right spot the second time too.
To: RetiredNavy
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posted on
11/01/2007 12:34:53 PM PDT
by
arthurus
(Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
Yes, Little Haiti. A block away from crack whore alley (NE 79th Avenue, near Biscayne).
48
posted on
11/01/2007 12:35:09 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
To: KarlInOhio
>>Two eye holes, a mouth hole and a bullet hole<<
If he was good, there would be no bullet hole. ;)
49
posted on
11/01/2007 12:39:36 PM PDT
by
RobRoy
(Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
To: nin_kasi
The intended victims were unharmed. The would-be robber was dead.
Exactly the way the FL shall issue CCW law was designed to work.
OK, I know the security guard could probably have gotten a permit to carry on the job even if the FL CCW law had not been enacted, but the outcome would be the same with either type permit as long as he had a gun.
50
posted on
11/01/2007 1:59:06 PM PDT
by
epow
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