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Rasmussen MD Poll (head-to-head): Clinton 46%, Rudy 41%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/state_toplines/maryland_toplines_october_24_2007 ^

Posted on 11/01/2007 5:55:50 AM PDT by LS

Clinton 46%, Rudy 41%

Clinton 49%, Fred 37%

Clinton 47%, McCain 40%

Clinton 52%, Huckabee 31%


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: 2008; clinton; fred; md2008; rudy
Although this is Rasmussen, not SurveyUSA, this is the first head-to-head/state poll NOT showing McCain higher than Rudy.
1 posted on 11/01/2007 5:55:54 AM PDT by LS
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To: LS

I should add, 500 likely voters (small sample, but “likely” vs. the Pew poll yesterday of “adults”).


2 posted on 11/01/2007 5:56:35 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: LS

500 likely voters in a liberal Blue State? I’m shocked........shocked that Her Thighness is doing so POOOOOOORLY!!!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 11/01/2007 5:58:43 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: LS
I should add, 500 likely voters...

Perhaps there should be a "new" category of polled persons: LEGAL VOTERS...............

4 posted on 11/01/2007 6:00:08 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

Check out the Quinnipiac poll I just posted. Even slanted to the Dems, and not counting “likely” voters, Hillary loses to Rudy.


5 posted on 11/01/2007 6:03:35 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: LS

40-40-20......those numbers are ±5, and constant in just about any poll....It’s that 20% in the middle that decides everything.............


6 posted on 11/01/2007 6:05:55 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger
"new" category of polled persons: LEGAL VOTERS..............

Better stick to likely voters, as legal voters, especially in a blue state, won't have any bearing on reality.

7 posted on 11/01/2007 6:15:13 AM PDT by C210N
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To: LS

Voters could care less at this point

These polls are worthless


8 posted on 11/01/2007 6:15:23 AM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: Red Badger
So the question is this: Is the "mushy middle" ready for unabashed socialism?

If our eventual candidate can clearly communicate what is actually at stake in this election, I think the "mush" will slide to our side.

9 posted on 11/01/2007 6:20:20 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Mrs Clinton! How'd your campain fund get so big????? "Ancient Chinese Secret!!!!")
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To: LS

Forget MD. It is an “Eastern Block” state, always will be.


10 posted on 11/01/2007 6:22:05 AM PDT by central_va
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To: LS
Hard to believe this one. MD is solid 'Rat through and through. I would find it very difficult to fathom why Hillary! will not win MD.

Then again, if she's bad enough, they just might flip. Who was the one Kennedy relative that lost a few cycles back? That was a Governor's race, though, as I recall, and on the next cycle the electorate booted the 'Pub out and went back to the 'Rat fold.

11 posted on 11/01/2007 6:24:07 AM PDT by chimera
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To: central_va
Forget MD. It is an “Eastern Block” state, always will be.

I'm surprised Hilly's lead isn't in the double digits.

12 posted on 11/01/2007 6:24:58 AM PDT by Neverforget01
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To: Mygirlsmom

That 20% in the “mushy middle” also breaks down in a 40-40-20 split, typically....resulting in 8-8-4 split of the 20, so you are really down to about 4% of the whole that can tip the system one way or another. Now when you consider that during General Elections, only about 50% of the eligible electorate bother to come out, that 4% gets very very small in numbers. That is why we have Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004 being so dang close. The whole system of ours is dependent on just a very few people who don’t pay much attention until about 48 hours before the polls open...............


13 posted on 11/01/2007 6:29:08 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Neverforget01

GuilliRomney is a moderate democrat. Still, the Ice Princess does better, Why? because she is a “true” lefty.


14 posted on 11/01/2007 6:30:03 AM PDT by central_va
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To: central_va
I could be wrong, but I think there are enough Republicans, right now, that say they would never vote for Rudy to skew any poll.

I also think when push comes to shove next November that a large majority of those same people will hold their nose and vote for him when faced with the prospect of 4-8 more years of the Clintons.

15 posted on 11/01/2007 6:33:28 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: Neverforget01

If Hillary is ahead by only 5 in this hard core Demo state then she is not doing too well.


16 posted on 11/01/2007 6:43:22 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: TNCMAXQ

Maryland, where both of my children live, should be thrown out of the Union. It is a communist state, very close to taxachewshits.


17 posted on 11/01/2007 6:48:20 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: LS
Such numbers have to be scary to the Democrats. Kerry defeated Bush in Maryland by 13 percentage points in 2004 and Gore did the same by 16 percentage points. Only with Huckabee, still a second tier candidate, does Hillary approach the margins of past victories in that state. Extrapolating from the Maryland polling data, she could sink any chance the Democrats have of taking Ohio, Virginia, and Florida, and could jeopardize them in "purple" states like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Iowa, and Minnesota. Her "coattails" could threaten continued Democrat control of the House of Representatives and lessen their chances of strengthening their Senate majority.

Perhaps this is why the rumors of Hillary's alleged lesbian affair with a Middle Eastern Muslim staffer are seeing the light of day all of a sudden. Some Democrats are seeing the possibility of their party snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory through a Hillary Clinton Presidential candidacy.

18 posted on 11/01/2007 6:48:45 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: LS
Rudy would actually pick her apart in a debate. She folded like a cheap tent at the latest Democrap debate when ask the first tough questions of her whole campaign. She's the most sheltered candidate in history.
19 posted on 11/01/2007 7:41:35 AM PDT by Reagan is King (Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or leave.)
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To: LS

Did Romney fall off the potato truck in this poll?


20 posted on 11/01/2007 7:46:08 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: LS

The fact that Hillary can’t break 50% against the top tier GOP candidates in a state that went 54% for her husband in 1996 and 56% for Gore and Kerry in 2000 and 2004 should be an ominous sign concerning Hillary’s electability.


21 posted on 11/01/2007 7:47:27 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Neverforget01

That’s exactly the point. This should be a 20-point advantage for Hillary.


22 posted on 11/01/2007 7:49:11 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Wallace T.

You nailed it. That’s why I posted this. She should have a 15-point lead over Rudy and McCain, 25 over Fred or Huckabee.


23 posted on 11/01/2007 7:50:07 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: FastCoyote

It’s possible they didn’t poll for Romney (can’t imagine why, but pollsters do weird things-—or maybe it was so low I didn’t include it).


24 posted on 11/01/2007 7:50:43 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: kabar

Indeed-y.


25 posted on 11/01/2007 7:51:03 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: LS

It doesn’t matter what this poll says. Maryland will go to the Dem candidate, whoever it is. 5 counties and Baltimore control this state. It sucks living here!


26 posted on 11/01/2007 7:51:32 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: LS

I wonder what the effect the large Italian-American population in MD had on this poll. I can see alot of people coming out to vote for the first Italian-American president. This would be true all through the north-east also.


27 posted on 11/01/2007 7:57:45 AM PDT by kingRidiculous
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To: Wallace T.

Like Bill, Hillary’s going to need a Perot (Ron Paul).


28 posted on 11/01/2007 8:15:19 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: JZelle
Ron Paul is still an unknown commodity politically. If he fails to achieve any measurable success in New Hampshire, a state tailor made for his individualist philosophy, and does not do well in other states, especially in the Rocky Mountain states, where the "don't tread on me" political philosophy is strong, his campaign will fall apart as volunteers and funds will dry up like a mud puddle in bright warm sunshine. If he chose to continue as a third party candidate, Paul would be at the Libertarian or Constitutionalist level of support, that is, in the less than one half million range. In 2000, Pat Buchanan, who did score a few strong showings in the early GOP primaries, ran for President under Ross Perot's old Reform Party. His showing in the general election was abysmal, only 60,000 higher than that of the Libertarians.

The only way Ron Paul (who did run as the Libertarian presidential candidate in 1988) would likely consider a third party run is if (1) he performs very strongly in the primaries, including the big February 5 one, and (2) the GOP nominates someone like Giuliani or McCain. The real third party threat may come from New York mayor Michael Bloomberg, if it is likely that the GOP will nominate a conservative like Fred Thompson. Unlike any candidate for either party's Presidential nomination, except Romney, Bloomberg had plenty of resources to self-fund a campaign.

29 posted on 11/01/2007 8:38:44 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.

Oh my, I forgot about Bloomberg. I just know the Clintons will do whatever they have to. Thanks for the post.


30 posted on 11/01/2007 9:25:28 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: LS

ITT should be rolling in Maryland. 5% is NOT a big margin and ITT hasn’t had anything thrown at her at all. Wait until the campaign gets rolling. Anywhere between 45% and 55% say they would NEVER vote for ITT.


31 posted on 11/01/2007 9:31:06 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: LS

Md. is a huge Dem state as poor Mike Steele found out. Still, the huge Catholic vote might help Rudy when he puts the fire to the Hildabeast on her gaffes on illegal immigration and her lack of real religious support for our culture.


32 posted on 11/01/2007 10:41:35 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: phillyfanatic
I've learned my lesson. Never count MD or NJ or WI in the Republican column until the election is over. Been betrayed too many times by polls showing the Republican "close."

The only reason I posted this is to show that Hillary should be up BIG double digits in this states, and is not.

33 posted on 11/01/2007 11:20:54 AM PDT by LS
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To: LS

I was called for this survey. I indicated that Hillary Clinton was quite likely the anti-Christ.


34 posted on 11/01/2007 12:52:39 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: LS
Hillary! has the SAME numbers each time. It's a sham!
35 posted on 11/01/2007 12:53:56 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Tempus Fidget - The time between the final hymn and recessional.)
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To: FastCoyote

He wasn’t even mentioned in the poll.


36 posted on 11/01/2007 12:54:20 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Senator Goldwater; Sudetenland; La Enchiladita; Corin Stormhands; AmericaUnited; Ceebass; ...

It’s amazing that any Republican is running within 5% of any Democrat in Maryland.


37 posted on 11/01/2007 4:42:42 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Clintonfatigued

It’s amazing that any Republican is running within 5% of any Democrat in Maryland.


Maryland’s a purple state which just had its first Republican governor in thirty years. But he lost his chair in 06 tide.

22 out of the 25 counties in Maryland can reliably vote GOP. But the other three and Baltimore City are Democrat locks.

All a GOp candidate needs to do it split Montgomery, Howard and Charles, and let PG and Baltimore go to the liberals. Reagan did it, Bush Senior did it and so can Rudy.


38 posted on 11/01/2007 7:36:36 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: FormerLib

LOL!! Good for you.


39 posted on 11/02/2007 6:53:48 AM PDT by LS
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To: LS; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


40 posted on 11/02/2007 10:23:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: Senator Goldwater
All a GOp candidate needs to do it split Montgomery, Howard and Charles, and let PG and Baltimore go to the liberals. Reagan did it, Bush Senior did it and so can Rudy.

Can't happen now. Mont. Co. has a lot of illegal immigrants who are registered to vote. They weren't here when Reagan and Bush 41 ran. No chance for much of a GOP vote there.

Another change is that Howard has a much higher African-American population than it did in Reagan or Bush 41's time. They will vote for hillary.

MD is a Dem lock. Esp. with hillary at the top of the ticket.

41 posted on 11/03/2007 6:01:19 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: speekinout

Charles has increased its black population by FIFTY PERCENT since the 2000 census as PG pushed south. So it isn’t getting any easier.

I agree that Howard and Montgomery aren’t what they used to be, but Ehrlich managed to win with that same strategy in 2002. I’m not saying Maryland is a red state by any means, but it can be purple with the right candidate and a few breaks.

Particularly if the current Democrat dope in the governor’s mansion makes good on his pledge to tax the daylights out of everyone in the state.


42 posted on 11/03/2007 10:58:57 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Senator Goldwater

Ehrlich won because of Michael Steele’s popularity in PG. There was an active group of “Dems for Ehrlich/Steele”. That took the Dems by surprise, so it worked. By the last election, the Dems had that “problem” corrected.

MD is not just a Dem state - it’s a machine state. Only a surprise twist by an underestimated GOPer could make a difference (same for Dems who aren’t part of the machine)


43 posted on 11/04/2007 5:22:18 PM PST by speekinout
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To: speekinout

Ehrlich won because of Michael Steele’s popularity in PG.


He also polled well in the inner burbs of Baltimore County, where he’s from and tends to be tough sledding for the GOP.

Yes, Maryland is indeed a Democrat machine state. How else could Sauerbrey lose all those cemetaries to Glendening?

But its a bloated oafish machine, and can be taken with the right set of circumstances.


44 posted on 11/04/2007 8:01:03 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Senator Goldwater

You’re far more optimistic than I am. A lot of people are leaving MD, and more will with the coming tax increases. The most Liberal will stay. I don’t see a state-wide GOP winner in the near future (or far future, for that matter)


45 posted on 11/05/2007 5:45:51 PM PST by speekinout
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