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WV has a Lion problem
FoxNews.Com | 10/29/07 | AP

Posted on 10/29/2007 7:45:23 PM PDT by jdietz

We have a Lion problem in WV!

I read this in the local paper (The Bluefield Daily Telegraph) last week but they did not have it on line.

The AP and Fox have now picked up on it.

LEWISBURG, W.Va. — Using a video camera and raw chicken, state officials hope to learn whether the king of the jungle is prowling the woods of West Virginia.

Bow hunter Jim Shortridge believes he saw a full-grown, male African lion weighing between 250 and 300 pounds at the foot of Cold Knob Mountain earlier this month. The state Division of Natural Resources confirmed that at least one other person has reported seeing the lion.

Using a camera normally employed to catch people dumping trash illegally, the state Department of Environmental Protection has joined with Greenbrier County Animal Control Officer Robert McClung and exotic animal expert Jim Forga to see if they can substantiate the sightings.

Twenty pounds of raw chicken left on the site last week were devoured, but McClung said that doesn't prove the lion's existence.

"Anything could have eaten that," he said.

If officials do spot the lion on videotape, they may set a bear trap for the animal. If caught, it would be turned over to Forga, who runs Tiger Mountain Refuge in Rainelle, a shelter for exotic animals.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: kingofthejungle; lion; lions; wildlife; wv

1 posted on 10/29/2007 7:45:26 PM PDT by jdietz
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To: jdietz

I thought the article would be about a Mountain Lion. That is bad enough, but an African Lion...Yikes!


2 posted on 10/29/2007 7:49:19 PM PDT by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do work American's won't do)
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To: jdietz

He11, a pair of labs coulda ate twenty pounds of chicken, or even one big one.


3 posted on 10/29/2007 7:50:10 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: jdietz

Mountain lions (cougars) have been increasing their range. They’re in Wisconsin now; maybe they’re in WV too. They aren’t the big-maned lions of African fame but they’re impressive cats nonetheless! Watch out for them... here in suburban Kalifornistan they are increasingly bold in suburbia, eat house-cats let out at night, and even attack small children and mountain bikers. One stalked a friend in his driveway when he went out one morning to pick up his newspaper.


4 posted on 10/29/2007 7:50:16 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
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To: jdietz

http://www.timeswv.com/statenews/cnhinsall_story_296222815.html

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/10/29/1057995-african-lion-alleged-to-be-in-wva

I bet lots of WV hunters are salivating over the thought of that mount.


5 posted on 10/29/2007 7:51:49 PM PDT by FreeInWV
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To: jdietz

Maybe they should stake out Robert Byrd.

Oh, wait...there are some things so old and stale that even a hungry lion won’t eat them.


6 posted on 10/29/2007 7:52:20 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich!)
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To: passionfruit

It could be a large mountain lion. The males do sometimes get over 200 pounds.


7 posted on 10/29/2007 7:52:27 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: passionfruit

At 250-300 lbs, he’d be a might puny for an adult male.


8 posted on 10/29/2007 7:52:48 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: jdietz

If officials do spot the lion on videotape, they may set a bear trap for the animal

They outta be setting the trap since the 20# of chicken disappeared, not waiting to catch it on camera first.


9 posted on 10/29/2007 7:53:58 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: jdietz

I’m pretty sure an African lion would freeze to death in the West Virginia winter.


10 posted on 10/29/2007 7:56:06 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: mamelukesabre
He11, a pair of labs coulda ate twenty pounds of chicken, or even one big one.

My teenage son could have wandered by and done it.

11 posted on 10/29/2007 7:59:20 PM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: jdietz

Should make hunting season more interesting.


12 posted on 10/29/2007 8:00:19 PM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: advance_copy

I’m not sure a lion would freeze in WV. Siberia has tigers and the Nepal has snow leopards. The mountain states have cougars so big cat can survive in colder climates. I think if they had adequate food supplies and some shelter they would make it in WV.


13 posted on 10/29/2007 8:00:26 PM PDT by Nakota
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To: passionfruit

Easy to believe. It seems like every few months we read a story about some loon who raised a tiger or lion in an urban apartment.

It’s the easiest thing to believe some such individual decided their pussycat was too big and decided it would be more “humane” to drive it out into the wilderness and leave it to starve.

I used to read all about man-eaters of history. Nobody really knows why lions and leopards take up people-eating. Only the tigers actually do it when they get crippled. Nobody knows why mountain lions don’t eat people when they could do so easily.


14 posted on 10/29/2007 8:05:49 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
About two years ago, we had an incident here in Hardin County, Kentucky involving a suspected mountain lion.

A farmer out near Eastview lost several cows to a large predator, so he took photos of the tracks and sent them to the Game Warden, who informed him that it was probably coyotes or maybe a black bear.

The farmer didn't believe this, so he set up a motion activated camera that snapped a couple of pictures of what appeared to be a mountain lion walking across the field. A lot of folks dismissed this as a close-up shot of a domestic cat, but the farmer swears that it was a mountain lion.

15 posted on 10/29/2007 8:07:08 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

“When I first saw [the lion], I thought it was a deer,” Shortridge said.

“Then it growled at me.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1917089/posts


16 posted on 10/29/2007 8:08:44 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Mountain lions (cougars) have been increasing their range.

That's ok, we have had male lions in WV and Virginia for a long time, have seen their tracks just have never seen one in the woods.

17 posted on 10/29/2007 8:10:14 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
who informed him that it was probably coyotes or maybe a black bear

You mean the dumb game warden couldn't tell the difference in bear tracks and a coyote. LOL

18 posted on 10/29/2007 8:12:48 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: advance_copy
I’m pretty sure an African lion would freeze to death in the West Virginia winter.

Their historic range includes areas of Europe and the mideast that get pretty cold. They will grow a thick winter coat and seem to do well during the winter months at outdoor parks across North America and Europe. I assume zoos in Northern China, Northern Japan and South Korea also have lions running around during winter months.

19 posted on 10/29/2007 8:15:11 PM PDT by fso301
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To: jdietz
. . .they may set a bear trap for the animal.

Isn't that like setting a dog trap for a cat? How about a big pussy magnet instead?

20 posted on 10/29/2007 8:15:12 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: jdietz

Someone in West Virginia has to have all their teeth.

And for now, it is the lion.


21 posted on 10/29/2007 8:18:21 PM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: jdietz
Bow hunter Jim Shortridge believes he saw a full-grown, male African lion weighing between 250 and 300 pounds at the foot of Cold Knob Mountain earlier this month.

If it's a "real" African lion, it wouldn't be a full grown male. A full grown male African lion would be substantially larger, closer to 400 pounds and around 9' long. It would be WAY bigger than a mountain lion, which tend to be between 100 and 150 pounds, and are built much smaller.

Mark

22 posted on 10/29/2007 8:24:47 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
How about a big pussy magnet instead?

How might I be of assistance?

23 posted on 10/29/2007 8:29:28 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: sinanju
Nobody knows why mountain lions don’t eat people when they could do so easily.

Maybe the incidences are infrequent relative to the number of mountain lions in the country, but we've had a few instances that I know about of mountain lions attacking people here in California and at least partly eating them.
24 posted on 10/29/2007 8:31:17 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: org.whodat
He's not the brightest bulb in the box, that's for sure.

A real problem we're having is all of the black bears that are moving into the area. We've had a couple of close encounters within the E-Town city limits. Fortunately, nobody has gotten hurt, but it is simply a matter of time.

25 posted on 10/29/2007 8:36:34 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: passionfruit

I thought the state of Pennsylvania was silly to put a tiger on its “Save wild animals” license plate.

Turns out it might not be far from the truth!


26 posted on 10/29/2007 8:37:43 PM PDT by CtBigPat
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To: fso301

Lion-spearing was all the rage amongst ancient Greek Myceneans. Their art depicts this.


27 posted on 10/29/2007 8:37:50 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: MarkL

An adult male lion would need about 15 pounds of meat a day, too.


28 posted on 10/29/2007 8:47:51 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Fester Chugabrew
How about a big pussy magnet instead?

29 posted on 10/29/2007 8:56:04 PM PDT by Bratch (“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”)
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To: jdietz

Well Detroit has had a lion problem for ages now but they seem to be doing better this year. :)


30 posted on 10/29/2007 8:56:35 PM PDT by xp38
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To: george76
It probably is an African lion.

We had reports of an alligator in a lake in a park in Los Angeles. Officials were skeptical until they saw it for themselves. Turns out Reggie the gator and his lil buddy (a smaller gator) were released by an idiot who decided they were too much to handle at home. I guess he figured they wouldn’t go hungry with an unending supply of kids to eat.

31 posted on 10/29/2007 8:57:54 PM PDT by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do work American's won't do)
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To: jdietz

I wonder if one could use a pack of lion dogs on an African lion? suspect they would be more likely to fight than tree...


32 posted on 10/29/2007 8:57:55 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Vote for FrudyMcRomson -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: roamer_1
Plot hounds would be a good match for an African Lion. Ridgebacks were bred for the Lion specifically but IMO the bear hunting Plot hounds would be sufficient.
33 posted on 10/29/2007 9:06:18 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug
Plot hounds would be a good match for an African Lion. Ridgebacks were bred for the Lion specifically but IMO the bear hunting Plot hounds would be sufficient.

My thought was more along the lines of whether a pack of lion dogs trained for cougars would be able to take on an African lion... The cougar is more likely to tree than fight, so I wonder if the pack wouldn't get fairly chewed up (not expecting a powerful confrontation). Granted, this seems to be a young African (and domesticated), but still...

34 posted on 10/29/2007 9:31:36 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Vote for FrudyMcRomson -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: mamelukesabre

But they’d have to be yellow labs, to be mistaken for a lion!!


35 posted on 10/30/2007 12:25:23 AM PDT by Shimmer
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To: jdietz
Good - maybe they will eat the slack jawed yokels that built a monster truck practice course next to our peaceful mountain retirement land.
36 posted on 10/30/2007 4:25:47 AM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: Shimmer

Well, it is nearly halloween. Maybe they were wearing costumes?


37 posted on 10/30/2007 4:25:36 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: fr_freak
"but we've had a few instances that I know about of mountain lions attacking people here in California and at least partly eating them."

I had two and possibly 3 different ones just walk right by me. One knew exactly when the sprinklers came on for his morning drink. On the hill opposite his wild one. I do outdoor testing at times. The last one ran right by me real fast to grab a fat rabbit. Wild rabbits overpopulate sometimes in Calabasas and walk like ducks.

Three of them ignored me. They don't attack prey that is taller than them and leaves them alone.

38 posted on 10/30/2007 4:58:13 PM PDT by BobS (I><P>)
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To: BobS
Three of them ignored me. They don't attack prey that is taller than them and leaves them alone.

That may very well be true - at least the size part. That still leaves some women and children at risk, though. One particular incident for which I remember most of the details was a woman jogger in the SF Bay Area. She was out on a wooded trail and got jumped from behind by a mountain lion, which then bit right through her spine at the neck.
39 posted on 10/30/2007 6:03:29 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: mamelukesabre

Hmmm. Nodding head. Labs would do that, yes.

LOL


40 posted on 10/30/2007 6:11:20 PM PDT by Shimmer (Purrrrrr)
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To: george76
I remember one time when I was a kid living at home in the city, a deer ran right up to me. It was a doe. I’d never seen a deer in the city before. As it was running up to me I was thinking “that’s the ugliest doberman I’ve ever seen in my life”. Then when it got about 15 feet away I realized it was a deer.
41 posted on 10/30/2007 7:10:29 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: fso301; sinanju

The european lion of roman/greek times wasn’t exactly the same animal as the african lion. It was more similar to the asian lion found in india. I don’t know if the males had manes or not. I’m pretty sure the asian male lions do not have manes.


42 posted on 10/30/2007 7:16:54 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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