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In the second half of the article, some interesting developments among muslim clerics I did not know.
1 posted on 10/26/2007 6:41:01 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush
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The second half of this article contains new information (at least to me) about muslim clerics who previously were aligned with al Qaeda.


2 posted on 10/26/2007 6:42:48 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

List of places where Al Qaeda has gotten their posterior kicked: Afghanistan, Somalia, Lebanon, Iraq. All they have left is their audio and videotapes to try to rally the goobers of the Muslim world.

They are probably most dangerous now that they are near defeat. But that period of danger won’t last long.


3 posted on 10/26/2007 6:46:41 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

The guy hiding in the cave knows he is losing this war, a dramatic change from just six months ago as it relates to Iraq.

And he’s gotten his ass kicked repeatedly in the arena he personally choose, Afghanistan.

After the massive ‘culling’ of fanatics since 9/11, whats left is a growing number of muslims that are realizing this guy doesn’t have the balls to strap on a bomb belt and lead an attack himself. That goes directly to ‘respect’ which is huge among the tribal chieftains, not just in Iraq but also Afghanistan.

He’s in the same general situation the Japanese found themselves in after mid 1943. He knows he’s lost the initiative, and is now forced to play ‘defense’.

Thats a losing gambit, as any military expert will tell you, from any era.


5 posted on 10/26/2007 6:47:21 AM PDT by Badeye ('Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....")
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Muslims in general, and brothers in Al Qaeda everywhere to avoid extremism


Let’s hear it for extremism!!!


6 posted on 10/26/2007 6:48:15 AM PDT by ROTB (Front Runner=rich guy who doesn't hate evil and strives to offend no one, AND WILL SELL YOU OUT.)
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Ping


7 posted on 10/26/2007 6:52:22 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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"In a rare moment of self-criticism, he (Yomama bin Crawdaddin') advises 'himself, Muslims in general, and brothers in Al Qaeda everywhere to avoid extremism'..."

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Oh, now that's rich.

Now there is a one liner guaranteed to bring the house down at ANY comedy club!
8 posted on 10/26/2007 6:54:04 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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Democrats are DEEPLY SADDENED !!


9 posted on 10/26/2007 7:01:39 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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See, see!!! Osama Bin Laden admits his mistakes. George Bush never admits his mistakes.

When is the last time the media asked George Bush what mistakes he has made?

10 posted on 10/26/2007 7:05:46 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
group that is largely independent of his own organization but adheres to a similar ideology

Factually incorrect. Al Qeda means the base. It was set up to bring together various terrorist groups and provide them training and resources. They are all part of a decentralized organization. This is just more of the usual Leftist claptrap about Iraq put out by the Unchristian Monitor to perpetuate the Democrat National Committee directed myth that Iraq and the WOT are separate wars. No they are not.

11 posted on 10/26/2007 7:06:05 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Yo Democrats, You don't tell us how to wage war, we will not tell you how to be the village idiots.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
Last paragraph of the article:

Today, Al Qaeda in Iraq possesses limited options, and is trying to buy time. But while entrapped and weakened, Al Qaeda is far from dead. Bin Laden's brief moment of self-criticism shows that, although he listens, it's difficult to keep a ship from sinking after being thrown overboard.

Huh?

12 posted on 10/26/2007 7:09:49 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Perhaps Osama is trying to move into a “statesman” phase, a la Yassir Arafat.


14 posted on 10/26/2007 7:12:53 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Global Warming must have gotten to Bin Laden too! Damn.

17 posted on 10/26/2007 7:14:47 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Osama is afraid Obama or Clinton won’t win the presidency.


18 posted on 10/26/2007 7:14:53 AM PDT by fweingart (FRED! (How is Mumia Abu-Jamal these days?))
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To: Tennessean4Bush

We should deliver that pig-effer a thermobaric alarm clock.


22 posted on 10/26/2007 7:22:49 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. <br> "What happens if neutrinos have mass?")
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Now, with al Qaeda being defeated in Iraq and the growing number of even Islamists, who are rejecting him. You know, cosmicly, it may have been better for Osama to survive. Imagine that we nailed Osama at Tora Bora. He would have become a martyr, who would have gained some sort of purity. The mistakes and brutality of his followers would not have stuck on Osama. Today, Osama is being stuck with his failures, with his brutality, with the disaster of enforcing religious laws, so ultimately he’s going to be totally discredited. No one’s going to be sorry, when he’s finally nailed.


25 posted on 10/26/2007 7:43:48 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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Osama bin Laden publicly conceded that his like-minded militants in Iraq "made mistakes."

They didn't intend to get themselves mostly wiped out by US forces?

28 posted on 10/26/2007 7:56:51 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (What did Rather know and when did he know it?)
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The Sunnis and some Sunni Sheiks who once fell for the propaganda from Al Queda - that they needed to join forces to fight “the occupiers” - saw first hand in Falluja and other places in Anbar province just what Al Queda victories meant - Al Queda terrorism to “purify” their own people.

They (Iraq’s Sunnnis) could have taken the conditions in the Taliban state of Afghanistan before 2001 as a warning of the style of governance that Al Queda sought, and now they can take their own lessons learned from fighting back against Al Queda to help other Muslims defeat them.


41 posted on 10/26/2007 11:14:54 AM PDT by Wuli
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The clerics that were “former” supporters of Osama bin Laden and now rebuke him have only one critique of Osama - his means, but not the ends he seeks - a Caliphate.

What they are disturbed about is that their common aims - achieving the Caliphate - is hurt by the public relations damage that the terrorism has caused. They much prefer the Saudi royal’s methods - purchasing subversion in the west.


42 posted on 10/26/2007 11:24:31 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I emailed the Washington (Com)Post ombudsman yesterday asking her when that paper would begin to report the good news coming out of Iraq. She said she asked their war editor, they are waiting until after the October numbers are in, they would have a report early next month.
I can’t wait to see how they try to spin it.


43 posted on 10/26/2007 12:05:56 PM PDT by Hottub
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political infighting at al Quaeda is further evidence of that it’s a spin-off of the same left wing that emails a daily planner to the Democrats in the US. /s (or not).


47 posted on 10/26/2007 5:12:56 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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48 posted on 10/26/2007 6:11:13 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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The civil war has become that between our enemies and the enemies of most of the people of Iraq.


50 posted on 10/26/2007 6:21:05 PM PDT by mtntop3
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To: Tennessean4Bush

We’ll know UBL is toast when he says “I wish to negotiate!”


52 posted on 10/26/2007 6:53:45 PM PDT by Nachoman (My guns and my ammo, they comfort me.)
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btt


57 posted on 10/27/2007 10:56:24 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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