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US to speed up F-35 stealth fighter delivery to Israel
The Jerusalem Post ^ | Oct 25, 2007 | YAAKOV KATZ

Posted on 10/24/2007 10:47:36 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Oct 25, 2007 0:56

US to speed up stealth fighter delivery

By YAAKOV KATZ

In an effort to bolster the Israel Air Force in the face of Iran's race toward nuclear power, the Pentagon has agreed to move up delivery of its newest stealth fighter to Israel by two years, to as early as 2012, The Jerusalem Post has learned.

Last month, the IDF announced plans to purchase a squadron (at least 25 aircraft) of the fifth-generation Joint Strike Fighter. That delivery was expected to commence in 2014.

During meetings Defense Minister Ehud Barak held at the Pentagon last week, US defense officials agreed to allow Israel to begin receiving the aircraft as early as 2012, when delivery to the United States Air Force is set to begin.

Eight countries - including Britain, Turkey and Australia - are members of the Joint Strike Fighter project. Israel became a security cooperation participant after paying $20 million in 2003 for access to information accumulated during the jet's development. The jet will be priced at between $50m. and $60m.

According to senior defense officials, Barak raised the issue with US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and asked that Israel begin receiving the stealth fighter as soon as it is operationally available.

"We asked that for every two jets manufactured for the US, one be manufactured for Israel," a senior defense official said, adding that acquisition of the aircraft would greatly increase Israel's deterrence as Iran races toward nuclear power.

"This plane can fly into downtown Teheran without anyone even knowing about it since it can't be detected on radar," the official said.

Barak also succeeded in convincing the Americans to allow Israel to install its own unique technology in the aircraft, until now a major point of contention between the Defense Ministry and the Pentagon, defense officials said. They said the Americans agreed - in principle - to allow Israel to integrate its own technology into the plane, as it had done with other fighter jets it has bought in the past from the US, such as the F-15 and F-16.

Also Wednesday, defense officials expressed concern regarding reports in the Russian media that China has signed a deal with Iran for the delivery of two squadrons of J-10 fighter jets, developed by Beijing and based on a model of the Israeli-made Lavi.

They said it was possible that Syria also would buy the aircraft, a move that would greatly enhance its capabilities. The J-10 is based on technology and components sold to China by Israel following the decision to stop development of the Lavi project in the 1980s.

According to the Russian Kommersant daily, representatives of the Iran Aircraft Manufacturing Industrial Company said China would deliver the jet by 2010. The contract's value was $1 billion, the paper said.

According to the report, the J-10 can use detachable fuel tanks to fly to targets 2,940 kilometers away. If true, it could reach Israel and return to base. Until now, the Russian-made MiG-29 (Fulcrum) has been the Iranian fighter jet with the longest range, 2,100 km.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f35; israel; lockheedmartin

1 posted on 10/24/2007 10:47:38 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Mullahs are toast this year.


2 posted on 10/24/2007 10:49:36 PM PDT by SolidWood ("I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Berosus
...as early as 2012... Israel became a security cooperation participant after paying $20 million in 2003 for access to information accumulated during the jet's development... Barak also succeeded in convincing the Americans to allow Israel to install its own unique technology in the aircraft, until now a major point of contention between the Defense Ministry and the Pentagon, defense officials said. They said the Americans agreed - in principle - to allow Israel to integrate its own technology into the plane, as it had done with other fighter jets it has bought in the past from the US, such as the F-15 and F-16. Also Wednesday, defense officials expressed concern regarding reports in the Russian media that China has signed a deal with Iran for the delivery of two squadrons of J-10 fighter jets, developed by Beijing and based on a model of the Israeli-made Lavi. They said it was possible that Syria also would buy the aircraft, a move that would greatly enhance its capabilities. The J-10 is based on technology and components sold to China by Israel following the decision to stop development of the Lavi project in the 1980s... Iran... by 2010. The contract's value was $1 billion, the paper said... the J-10 can use detachable fuel tanks to fly to targets 2,940 kilometers away.
Oops.
3 posted on 10/24/2007 11:03:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, October 22, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Wizard inbound snaking about

4 posted on 10/24/2007 11:06:33 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: SolidWood
The Mullahs are toast this year.

Not because of the F-35

"...the Pentagon has agreed to move up delivery of its newest stealth fighter to Israel by two years, to as early as 2012...

5 posted on 10/24/2007 11:20:43 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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Iran to Buy 24 Jet Fighters from China
Ha’aretz | October 24, 2007
Posted on 10/24/2007 8:46:32 PM EDT by nuconvert
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1915950/posts?page=1


6 posted on 10/25/2007 12:07:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, October 22, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yet another piece of conjecture. Pakistan will be the first to receive the J-10. We had the same with Iran getting all those Su-30s from Russia. Journalists just make this stuff up on slow days.


7 posted on 10/25/2007 1:42:17 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: sukhoi-30mki
You'll have to excuse my skepticism here but how exactly do we know the Israelis aren't going to allow some Chinese "advisers" to get too close to these things. Failing that...how are we to know if Israel will be within its rights to sell them to the Russians or Chicoms outright?!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1915629/posts
8 posted on 10/25/2007 3:18:27 AM PDT by Live free or die
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To: MaxMax

It’s good that someone knows the rules. Any mention of aircraft or pretty women requires pictures.


9 posted on 10/25/2007 3:32:31 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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since it can't be detected on radar,"

BS

10 posted on 10/25/2007 4:47:41 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"Also Wednesday, defense officials expressed concern regarding reports in the Russian media that China has signed a deal with Iran for the delivery of two squadrons of J-10 fighter jets, developed by Beijing and based on a model of the Israeli-made Lavi."

"Barak also succeeded in convincing the Americans to allow Israel to install its own unique technology in the aircraft, until now a major point of contention between the Defense Ministry and the Pentagon, defense officials said. They said the Americans agreed - in principle - to allow Israel to integrate its own technology into the plane, as it had done with other fighter jets it has bought in the past from the US, such as the F-15 and F-16."

It's ironic that we are selling Israel something to help counter something they sold to the Chicoms. On the other hand, maybe the Israelis can help figure out how to make the F-35 live up to its hype.

11 posted on 10/25/2007 6:39:59 AM PDT by GBA ( God Bless America!)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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12 posted on 10/25/2007 6:42:03 AM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: GBA

J-10


Israeli Lavi - program killed in the 80s.

Some vague similarities... but off the bat, the lavi was a 2 seater, the j-10 is a 1-seater. This plane would have been really high tech in the 80s.... and what are the avionics packages like?
13 posted on 10/25/2007 7:19:05 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki; Paleo Conservative; Red Badger

Good news?

Ping...


14 posted on 10/25/2007 8:20:55 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: SunkenCiv; sukhoi-30mki

General Barak is good as Defense Minister. Is theis move related to the IAF taking out the Syrian nuclear facility?


15 posted on 10/26/2007 10:13:55 PM PDT by dervish (Pray for the peace of an UNDIVIDED JEWISH Jerusalem)
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To: dervish

It has to do with the future; Syria is bound to get more advanced fighters after the nuke site got pffed off the map, and the Saudis are lined up to get more fighters of various kinds I think. The Saudis and Egyptians both have nuclear programs in very early stages, and neither of them can be allowed to get the Bomb.


16 posted on 10/26/2007 11:32:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, October 22, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dervish

Not exactly.The IAF enjoys tech superiority as of now as far as most real & potential rivals go.The problem is that atleast 60 percent of it’s F-15 & F-16 fleets need to start getting replaced by 2010 as they will have been in service for 20-25 years.The IAF ultimately envisages around 100 F-35s by 2020+.


17 posted on 10/27/2007 4:15:46 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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