I heartily agree.
Posted on 10/24/2007 6:28:27 AM PDT by captjanaway
On every October 24th since he’s been President, George W. Bush has issued a proclamation recognizing “United Nations Day.” Typically, Bush calls upon the people of the United States “to observe this day with appropriate programs and activities.” The appropriate thing to do would be to acknowledge the basic truth that communist spy and State Department official Alger Hiss laid the groundwork for the U.N. and became its first acting secretary-general, causing it to be dubbed “the house that Hiss built.” Hiss also advised President Franklin Roosevelt at the Yalta conference, which defined post-World War II Europe and betrayed Eastern European nations to Soviet control.
As you can imagine, this is a sensitive subject for the State Department. On the 60th anniversary of the founding of the United Nations, 2005, the State Department published a report, “The United States and the Founding of the United Nations, August 1941 - October 1945,” about how it was established, carefully omitting any mention of Hiss’s pivotal role. “That was just a brief summary paper on the organization itself as I recall,” said State Department historian Marc J. Susser. He claimed that the document was a “bare-bones history” and “brief outline” of the world body. Susser said he didn’t write it but “went over it.” He explained, “Somebody in the office did it.”
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Note the dates. When I was in school, I read somewhere an encyclopedia entry which claimed brazenly that WWII was fought between the Axis and the "United Nations". That was in the days when the UN had enough prestige that somebody thought they could get away with rewriting history around it. Haven't seen that kind of thing in years. Figures that this comes from the State Department.
After all, Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
Hiss, Serpent, Satan...............
August 1941? Prior to Pearl Harbor (12-07-41)?..........
BTTT
I heartily agree.
That was the Atlantic Conference.
And has always been allied with Eurasia.
Does anybody else wonder why we still support the UN?
It tries to undermine the Constitution of the USA and would love to cripple our Constitutional Republic.
In over 60 years No major politician has ever tried to get the USA out of the UN.
16 out of 17 of the AMERICANS that were involved in creating the U . N. were later identified, in sworn testimony, as secret communist agents.
The first Secretary General was the AMERICAN Alger Hiss. Alger Hiss served time in prison pursuant to his involvement in a Communist spy ring.
Many of the other AMERICANS that were involved in creating the U . N. fled the country, to avoid prosecution.
The ONE AMERICAN, that was involved in creating the U . N. ; and was NOT later identified, in sworn testimony, as a secret communist agent, was Dean Acheson. Dean Acheson’s law firm was the legal representative of the Soviet Union, in U. S. courts.
If the AMERICANS that were involved in creating the U . N. were Communists, what do you think we got from the rest of the world?
As a second one, I was in high school after the millennium, and learned about Alger Hiss. I don’t remember what exactly we learned, but I do remember the name.
And that the Allies were fighting with the Axis Powers.
Weird, eh? I thought the United Nations was founded in 1945 to replace the League of Nations. I KNOW it did not exist prior to our entry into WWI.
Oh, Cake, where’d you get that picture from?
Satan has been busy these last few decades............
If I had a UN flag, I could celebrate by dowsing it in my “Water.”
That was the term the Allies used to refer to themselves. I don't know when during the war it came into common usage, but I'm pretty sure it was well-established before FDR died. Truman refers to the "united nations" in almost all of his wartime speeches.
In WWII, "united nations" was just a phrase -- like "coalition of the willing." Shortly after the war, they formed the basis of the United Nations, a body with a charter and deliberative bodies and so on. To this day, the five permanent members of the Security Council are still the ones that won WWII: The USA, Britain, Russia, China, and France.
... by the United States. You know there are other countries out there, right?
Flag burning, in its symbolic speech, is the equivalent of an inarticulate scream. No matter which flag. Let it out if it makes you feel better, but it’s not an argument.
But in 1965, it had quite a different meaning. Especially when capitalized.
“The appropriate thing to do would be to acknowledge the basic truth that communist spy and State Department official Alger Hiss laid the groundwork for the U.N...”
I never knew that until I read Anne Coulter’s book on McCarthy and the left wing in America.
“... by the United States. You know there are other countries out there, right?”
http://worldatwar.net/timeline/other/league18-46.html
Some members of the League which was implemented to stop wars were the ones who started wars to dominate their fellow members.
America was wise not to join and was very stupid to start and join the UN.
Oh, it existed, formed to prevent another war. The US just didn’t join it, though President Woodrow Wilson dreamed up the idea. Also, the League of Nations coun’t impliment it’s own threats of multilateral military action if other sanctions didn’t work and was thus doomed to fail.
Who said I’m arguing? I’m simply returning a compliment on this very special day.
Bump!
True. I was careful to capitalize the formal organization and not the earlier marriage of necessity. But the Axis and the Allies are traditionally capitalized, so I don't think there's necessarily anything sinister in that usage.
I watch a fair number of old movies, and for several years after the war, folks usually referred to the UNO -- United Nations Organization. I assume that was to distinguish it from the wartime united nations.
In your 1965 encyclopedia (or the encyclopedia you read in 1965, probably published years before, if your school library was like mine), for clarity's sake it probably should have said something like "...united nations, a group of countries that formed the basis for the modern UN."
The League of Nations was feckless at best, no doubt.
In high school, I took a year of history via independent study. My thesis one quarter was: Could WWII have been avoided if the US had joined the League of Nations? My answer: No. Not even close. First, because the Versailles treaty was a textbook example of how to win the war and lose the peace. Second, because the LoN had no teeth; and third and most importantly, after WWI, most members of the League turned profoundly isolationist, as did the US. Europe tried to appease Hitler, and the US wanted no part of any of it.
Hiss avoided talking about his specific case and instead spoke in generalities about current foreign policy. When asked by a questioner about his case, Hiss went on about how the evidence they got on him was acquired illegally, blah, blah, blah.
He never came out and said "I was framed!", instead, he used lawyerly evasions to defend himself.
I walked away from that lecture convinced that Hiss was guilty of spying as accused.
I have 4 volumes of his life and letters and wanted to see any early ideas on the League even though he passed away long before it was started.
Without dragging them out I searched the inter net for him and found this website that have a selection of his life and letters.
http://net.lib.byu.edu/~rdh7/wwi/memoir/Page/Pagenotes.htm
I was so glad to find this, now I can seal them up to be safer.
And the website is so much faster to search and copy information.
I've just logged into Amazon and have remedied that (I also purchased The Venona Secrets). Thanks.
Except for Secretary of State Acheson, every US signer of the UN charter was a Communist.
I took a piss this morning. Does that qualify?
I read it aloud to my wife years ago. Chambers is on my short list of favorite writers, selected for their mastery of English and their clarity of thought.
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