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Raid Revelation Getting briefed on World War III.
NRO ^ | October 23, 2007 | Stanley Kurtz

Posted on 10/23/2007 5:08:02 AM PDT by AU72

If people had known how close we came to World War III that day there would have been mass panic. That is how a very senior British ministerial source recently characterized Israel’s September raid on what was apparently a Syrian nuclear installation. Whether matters were quite that grave is an open question. Yet it does seem clear that the full story of the Israeli raid has not been told, nor its full significance recognized. Now two key members of Congress have raised an alarm about this event, thereby throwing our nuclear agreement with North Korea into question.

Briefings Peter Hoekstra and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, as senior Republicans on the House Intelligence and Foreign Affairs Committees, respectively, were among the mere handful of members of Congress briefed on the Israeli air strike. What they learned obviously dismayed them greatly, as is evident from “What Happened in Syria?” a Wall Street Journal opinion piece published by Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen this past Saturday.

In that piece, Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen protest the “unprecedented veil of secrecy, thrown over the airstrike” noting that the vast majority of foreign relations and intelligence committee members have been left in the dark on the details of the raid. Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen acknowledge that they have personally been “sworn to secrecy,” yet add that: “...based on what we have learned...it is critical for every member of congress to be briefed on this incident, and as soon as possible.”

Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen obviously believe that Syria obtained “nuclear expertise or material” from outside state sources. And while they base their concern on press reports, it seems likely that their top-secret briefings confirmed this fact. Notable here is Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen’s repeated use of the phrase “North Korea, Iran, or other rogue states” when referring to Syria’s possible nuclear collaborators. After their briefing, Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen seem just as concerned about Iranian involvement as North Korean.

Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen protest the administration’s willingness to provide the press with anonymous information on background, “to shape this story to its liking,” while keeping members of Congress in the dark. “We believe this is unacceptable,” they say, noting that the administration has ignored numerous letters from Congress asking that all members be briefed. Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen specifically express concerns about two administration-influenced stories in the New York Times and one in The Washington Post. Finally, Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen threaten to oppose any nuclear deal with North Korea unless all members of congress are briefed on the reasons for the Israeli raid.

While the secrecy that surrounds this issue forces us to read between the lines, two broad factual questions emerge from Hoekstra’s and Ros-Lehtinen’s oped. First, in what sense has the administration been shaping (or misshaping) the Syria story to its liking? Second, is there more to this story than recent press reports have indicated?

North Korea’s Role Consider one of the articles singled out by Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen, an Oct. 14 New York Times story by David Sanger and Mark Mazzetti.

While this story confirmed that Israel had struck “a partially completed nuclear reactor, apparently modeled on one North Korea has used to create its stockpile of nuclear weapons fuel,” the article also raises doubts: “...American and foreign officials would not say whether they believed the North Koreans sold or gave plans to the Syrians, or whether the North’s own experts were there at the time of the attack. It is possible, some officials said, that the transfer of the technology occurred several years ago.”

Yet the suggestion that North Korean personnel might not have been involved in the ongoing construction of the reactor contradicts a New York Times story of October 9, just a few days before, which said that within the administration “there appears to be little debate that North Koreans frequently visited a site in the Syrian Desert that Israeli jets attacked Sept. 6.” The story on October 9 was that the North Koreans were surely present at the Syrian installation, but that the nuclear nature of the site was less certain. Once nuclear activity at the site was confirmed by the Times on October 14, however, administration sources on background apparently did their best to foster uncertainty about North Korean involvement. In other words, if the Koreans are there, it might not be nuclear, and if it’s nuclear, the Koreans might not be there.

The point is that the administration is subtly attempting to cast doubt on any reported link between North Korea and the Syrian reactor (without directly denying such a link). Otherwise it would become obvious that North Korea is flagrantly violating its nuclear agreement with the United States. Apparently, their secret briefing has led Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen to believe that the administration is obfuscating the reality of North Korean proliferation, in order to preserve the six-party deal.

In fact, from the beginning until the present, press reports have given strong indications of ongoing North Korean involvement in the Syrian nuclear project. One of the first reports (and still arguably the most extensive and important report) on the raid, from the London Sunday Times of Sept. 16, quoted Andrew Semmel, who was the acting deputy assistant secretary of state for nuclear nonproliferation policy. Speaking of Syria’s nuclear project, Semmel was asked if North Korean technicians were present there. Semmel replied, “There are North Korean people there. There’s no question about that.”

Another Sunday Times piece, of Sept. 23, offered further evidence of North Korean involvement. Israeli intelligence had suggested to the administration over the summer that North Korean personnel were at the Syrian site, said the Sunday Times. In fact, Israeli defense sources were said to have taken to referring to the target site as the “North Korean project.” The Sunday Times also noted the unusual stridency of North Korea’s condemnations of an event so far from East Asia. In a sense, the North Koreans were outing themselves by their protests. The Sunday Times also reported that diplomats stationed in North Korea and China, based on intelligence reports reaching Asian governments, believed that a number of North Koreans had actually been killed in the raid.

More recent reports have taken up the same theme. On October 7, Washington Post columnist Jim Hoagland noted that a senior official with access to highly classified intelligence reports said that “...the Israelis destroyed a nuclear-related facility and caused North Korean casualties at the site....” And October 19, ABC News quoted “a senior U.S. official claiming that the Syrians could not have built their reactor without North Korean ‘expertise,’ meaning that ‘the Syrians must have had ‘human’ help from North Korea.’”

If these reports are true, Hoekstra’s and Ros-Lehtinen’s concerns about efforts by the administration to lead the press away from the North Korean connection (without explicitly denying it), is completely understandable. Again, Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen appear to fear that the administration’s now dominant policy-making faction (led by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert Gates) is trying to protect the six-party agreement by suppressing the reality of North Korean proliferation.

Iran’s Role What about Iran? As noted, the persistent and strong emphasis Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen place on possible Iranian participation in the Syrian nuclear program can’t help but make us suspect that their secret briefing contained reports of Iranian involvement. Yet Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen refer to press reports of an Iranian role, and there are some such reports.

Former U.N. ambassador John Bolton has expressed concerns that both North Korea and Iran may be “outsourcing” their nuclear programs in Syria. We know that Syria has served as a conduit for North Korean shipments of missile components to Iran, and there are concerns that North Korean nuclear material may have taken the same route (see Sunday Times, Sept. 16). On Sept. 12, a New York Times report said “The Israelis think North Korea is selling to Iran and Syria what little [nuclear material] they have left.” A useful recent overview of the Israeli raid titled “How close were we to a third world war?” adds an important bit of new information based on earlier reports in the Kuwaiti press. Ali Rheza Ali, a former Iranian deputy defense minister who defected several months ago, supplied intelligence sources in the West with information about the site targeted by the Israelis. Of course, that knowledge would imply close Iranian involvement in Korea’s nuclear project. (For more on possible Iranian involvement, see my “Deterrence Lost.”)

Distress over North Korean and Iranian involvement in nuclear proliferation to Syria — possibly as a way of hiding their own nuclear programs from the United States — would certainly make sense of Hoekstra’s and Ros-Lehtinen’s public complaint. Yet there may be more at work. The American press reports cited by Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen have so far seemed to confirm only the existence of a “nascent” plutonium reactor modeled on North Korea’s facility at Yongbyon, a construction project that could take as many as three to six years to complete (see NYT Oct. 14). While Syrian wrath at Israel’s destruction of even a nascent nuclear reactor could certainly have led to a retaliatory attack and general war in the Middle East, worries over a potential “world war three” caused by Israel’s destruction of a reactor three to six years from completion seem a bit overblown. These worries might make more sense if there is something more to this story than what American news sources have confirmed.

Warhead? Several early and unconfirmed reports on the Israeli raid point to the possibility that in the days immediately before the airstrike, the North Koreans may have shipped a cache of fissile material — possibly including a nuclear warhead — to Syria. According to the Sept. 16 Sunday Times, preparations for the attack began when the head of Israel’s intelligence agency, the Mossad, presented Prime Minister Ehud Olmert with evidence that “Syria was seeking to buy a nuclear device from North Korea.” The fear was that the warhead would be fitted atop one of Syria’s North Korean-made Scud-C missiles, already armed with North Korean designed chemical warheads. “This was supposed to be a devastating surprise,” said an Israeli source, “Israel can’t live with a nuclear warhead.” The Sept. 16 Sunday Times goes on to connect the warhead story with a Washington Post report that the raid was linked to “the arrival three days earlier of a ship carrying North Korean material labeled as cement but suspected of concealing nuclear equipment.”

A “nascent” nuclear reactor, three-to-six years from completion, does not give off radiation. Yet the London Sunday Times reported on Sept. 23 that Israeli commandos seized samples of nuclear material and returned them to Israel for examination. “A laboratory confirmed that the unspecified material was North Korean in origin.” The Washington Post’s Jim Hoagland reported on October 7 that a senior official with access to highly classified intelligence reports said that the Israelis provided the United States with “physical material and soil samples from the site — taken both before and after the raid.” Soil samples are commonly used to confirm the presence of fissile material.

Here is where we begin to see potential contradictions, or at least difficulties. Some stories speak of nuclear material or even warheads, while other stories refer only to an incomplete reactor, and even deny that fissile material was present at all. For example, the ABC story of Oct. 19, claims that “no fissionable material was found because the facility was not yet operating.” The U.S. hesitated to approve the attack, according to this report, precisely because of the lack of fissionable material. While the ultimate nuclear intentions for the site were “unmistakable,” the U.S. apparently worried that it would be challenged without the sort of absolute proof provided by fissionable material.

Reactor and More? Yet reports that fissionable material of some sort was involved in the raid persist, and there are a ways in which these reports could be reconciled with the ABC story. The October third edition of Britain’s Spectator carried a more detailed account of the fate of the North Korean shipment of “cement” than earlier reports. This is the same article, by the way, in which “a very senior British ministerial source” said we’d come close to “world war three that day.”

According to the Spectator, the Israelis tracked the North Korean “cement” shipment to the same site that had already been under intense Israeli surveillance as a possible nuclear installation (i.e. the incomplete reactor). It was at this point, just days before the attack, that elite Israeli commandoes were dispatched to collect the soil samples that indicated the ship cargo had been nuclear (and, according to the London Sunday Times, of North Korean origin). So it’s possible that the ABC report and the report from the Spectator could both be correct. The U.S. may have worried through the summer months about attacking the nascent reactor because of the lack of fissile material (and also for fear of what a raid would do to the six-party talks). Yet the arrival of the North Korean shipment of “cement” three days before the attack, and the subsequent Israeli soil samples, may have turned the tide and led the U.S. to approve what the Israelis at that point surely felt compelled to do.

Conclusions Our examination of diverse news accounts of the Israeli raid on the Syrian nuclear facility yields several conclusions. First, there is significant evidence of ongoing and recent North Korean involvement. Especially given the informed criticisms of Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen, apparent efforts by select administration sources to downplay North Korean involvement appear unconvincing. Second, especially in light of the informed concerns expressed by Hoekstra and Ros-Lehtinen, but also in light of press accounts, there is reason to fear significant Iranian involvement in Syria’s nuclear program, either as a facilitator, as a destination for North Korean nuclear material transiting Syria, or both. Third, there is at least some significant evidence for direct North Korean transfer of fissile material — perhaps even a nuclear warhead — to Syria and/or Iran. That, of course, would constitute the most serious possible violation of the six-party agreement, and would be a grave threat to the security of the United States and the world.

In light of this evidence, should Congress now oppose America’s nuclear agreement with North Korea? And along with North Korea, should Iran be held to account in this affair? Perhaps. In any case, based on an analysis of press reports, and on the informed protests of Representatives Peter Hoekstra and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, it’s clear that we need more open information before we can confidently sign on to the six-party agreement. At a minimum, the scope of congressional briefings on the Israeli raid needs to


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KEYWORDS: airstrikes; axisofevil; nro; nuclear; rice; syriannukes; worldwar4; wwiii
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My take is that the Rice-Powell wing of the Administration is now pre-dominant, pushing for diplomacy with NK, Iran and pressuring Isreal to cave in to Pali demands.

It took evidence of a nuclear device to move Bush to allow the Isreali action against Syria but is downplaying it publicly to keep a fig-leaf on NK agreements.

We are living in very dangerous times.

1 posted on 10/23/2007 5:08:05 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72
It took evidence of a nuclear device to move Bush to allow the Isreali action against Syria...

It is way past time to unleash the Israelis.

They seem to be the only ones who actually take any of this seriously.

2 posted on 10/23/2007 5:15:52 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit ("A liberal feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.")
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To: AU72
Yes we are indeed living in very dangerous times and it is unfortunate that the majority of Americans, especially, don't have a clue.

As far as I am concerned we have been in WWIII since 911. Only problem is "we" can't accept it - from the leadership down.

Have fun at the Mall today! /sarc

3 posted on 10/23/2007 5:17:04 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: AU72

“Yet the suggestion that North Korean personnel might not have been involved in the ongoing construction of the reactor contradicts a New York Times story of October 9, just a few days before, which said that within the administration “there appears to be little debate that North Koreans frequently visited a site in the Syrian Desert that Israeli jets attacked Sept. 6.” The story on October 9 was that the North Koreans were surely present at the Syrian installation, but that the nuclear nature of the site was less certain.”

Is it possible North Koreans were killed during this strike?


4 posted on 10/23/2007 5:20:34 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: AU72
Look: This is all our fault. Just get clear on that. WE are to blame.

If we were nice and had signed Kyoto and if we gave all our SUVs to third-world countries where they could be used as goat hutches, if we abandoned our military and political commitments around the world, if we gave gift cards to Fort Knox to every tin-pot Stalinist dictator around the world, if we found a way to combine the perverted sexual libertinism of the left, the NOW moral standard of "Does an ugly woman take offense?", with submission to Islam -- if we would only do all these things, then Syria would love us and the world would be filled with friends who truly wanted only what is best for us. We could lay down our arms and live in peace with all.

And I am the Queen of Romania.

5 posted on 10/23/2007 5:21:02 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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>> noting that the vast majority of foreign relations and intelligence committee members have been left in the dark on the details of the raid.

Maybe if Congress (and, while we’re on the subject, State) could keep their @#$%^&* MOUTHS SHUT, they could be brought a little more into the intelligence circle.


6 posted on 10/23/2007 5:24:18 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Slapshot68
Is it possible North Koreans were killed during this strike?

If they were assisiting Syria in constructing a nuke, I hope so.

7 posted on 10/23/2007 5:25:18 AM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: ImpBill

>> As far as I am concerned we have been in WWIII since 911. Only problem is “we” can’t accept it - from the leadership down.

Good point.


8 posted on 10/23/2007 5:26:37 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Recovering Hermit
It is way past time to unleash the Israelis.

Exactly. But the Bush Administration does not want to jeopardize that sacred cow of his: "the Palestinian State".

9 posted on 10/23/2007 5:29:03 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Recovering Hermit
They seem to be the only ones who actually take any of this seriously.

They are the only ones that have the Sword of Damocles hanging over their head.....

10 posted on 10/23/2007 5:30:45 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: Recovering Hermit
We need a cute little low-order burst in or near an Iranian nuc plant.

Shows how bad their handling techniques are, proof of what they were building, etc.

Use some of the old Pu we bought from the former USSR states so if can/would be traced back to the USSWas (Former USSAre)

Does CCCP stand for Can’t Control Critical Plutonium?

11 posted on 10/23/2007 5:31:11 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: AU72

I agree with the demands that every member of Congress be immediately briefed and given copies of every Top Secret document that we’ve got. That includes Shelia Jackson Lee, Dennis Kucinich and the whole rest of the looney lot. No treason within the halls of Congress, no siree. Why, they are the only ones in Washington looking out for our interests. How do I know this, you ask. Why they tell me so, and this have been confirmed by the New York Times and the Washington Post.

Who needs the Syrians, Iranians, and North Koreans when you have the Democrat Congressional Delegation


12 posted on 10/23/2007 5:32:55 AM PDT by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
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To: Slapshot68
"Is it possible North Koreans were killed during this strike?"

Most likely IMO.

13 posted on 10/23/2007 5:33:32 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Uncle Chip

“Exactly. But the Bush Administration does not want to jeopardize that sacred cow of his: “the Palestinian State”.”

If I was Israel, I’d want to have the Palestinian State set up. It would reduce costs of occupation and when Palestinians launch their attacks, now it will be an act of war where Israel can go in and clean their clocks. It won’t be something that Arabs can call “Jewish Oppressors”


14 posted on 10/23/2007 5:33:39 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: blam

“”Is it possible North Koreans were killed during this strike?”

Most likely IMO.”

And since Syria and NK haven’t really raised any sort of real stink about it, I’d say they were definitely caught with their pants down.


15 posted on 10/23/2007 5:34:35 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Recovering Hermit

Agree, but I am wondering if it was this action that brought Sarkozy to speak of French involvement in Mideast. Perfect place for them would be Lebonon. My personal disappoint with the Iraq campaign is we didn’t continue through to Damascus. Had we done that Iran would now be totally cut off from allies and Lebonon would have a functioning democracy. Too bad.


16 posted on 10/23/2007 5:34:59 AM PDT by Jigajog
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To: AU72
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad cuts short visit to Armenia ("Unexpected developments in Iran")
17 posted on 10/23/2007 5:36:57 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: AU72
Syria gets UN apology
18 posted on 10/23/2007 5:40:32 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Uncle Chip

19 posted on 10/23/2007 5:58:36 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit ("A liberal feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.")
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To: MindBender26
Hey Achmed, I can see your house from here!

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

20 posted on 10/23/2007 6:24:11 AM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=-
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