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Posted on 10/21/2007 1:21:12 AM PDT by managusta
“The reality is that child abuse/pedophilia is a sickness in one’s soul - married or not.”
absolutely. religious doctrine has nothing to do with it.
“Your problem is that you missed most of the conversation. Anyone who was there knew what the statement meant. It didn’t ignore anything.”
True, I’m commenting on this thread. I would have a similar reaction to anyone blaming Catholic doctrine for the problem. Still, why say it, except to get some sick pleasure out of a horrible situation.
Nobody in their right mind blamed rank-and-file Catholics, or Catholic doctrine for the molesters.
Pedaphiles lurk amongst the married as well as the single. Now what? No simple generalizations will do here. Allowing priests to wed does not eliminate the problem.
How dismissive! See! It's a Catholic problem! Protestants marry! And Pride goeth before the Fall.
The Pointing finger needs to come in our direction. Ours, and anyone's who turned a blind eye, or looked away or pretended not to notice. People KNEW. The kids knew. And nothing happened.
So, society has done an about-face. Let the shrieking begin! But tell me: What have we learned?
“Your problem is that you missed most of the conversation. Anyone who was there knew what the statement meant. It didn’t ignore anything.”
Oh, and I hope the bureaucracy of the CoE pays the same price for enabling this to continue as the Catholic church bureaucracy did.
In the US, I’m sure they will.
The solution is to exclude gays from the priesthood and any other position of power or leadership in the church. The Catholic church may actually succeed in this. The ECUSA has glorified and institutionalized gays in the organization, but really, they’re barely Christian (being charitable here) as it is.
That’s why the Catholic church will survive and the ECUSA will not.
“The Pointing finger needs to come in our direction. Ours, and anyone’s who turned a blind eye, or looked away or pretended not to notice. People KNEW. The kids knew. And nothing happened. “
Absolutely.
That's beside the point.
My post was intended as sarcasm directed towards those who invariable attribute the homosexual predations of Catholic priests to the practice of celibacy in the Latin Rite. They pop up whenever there is a news article about some priest getting caught.
No offense at all was intended towards Anglicans, just towards ignorant liberal Catholics and other misinformed posters. Other informed Catholics would have spotted the sarcasm right off the bat and understood the post, so I confess to the sin of posting somewhat of an inside joke. And to being a sick puppy, LOL!
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Sorry if you are so blinded that you can’t see the truth. One of the DBM’s memes is that the Catholic sex scandal wss a result of celibacy driving solid men away. It’s clear that the root of (both) scandals is a lack of discipline and the freeing of normal constraints in the 1960s.
Are you blaming the victims by saying that their parents should have been more mindful of where they were spending their time?
No, I am saying alarm bells went off for me and I told them no. I described it as “vatic” insight. I count myself blessed to have avoided that particular experience for my sons. Your assumptions are incorrect. Some dear friends of mine were not so lucky, I would NEVER judge them.
“Sorry if you are so blinded that you can’t see the truth. One of the DBM’s memes is that the Catholic sex scandal wss a result of celibacy driving solid men away.”
DBM? not sure what that means.
I never said that about priests, nor is it even a reasonable argument, regardless of who or how many made it. Why did you even give that comment the time of day?
I just thought it a very odd comment on this thread.
The point is institutional changes have been made in the Catholic church. There will be no more “easy pickings” for gays there.
The CoE embraces gays, like the ECUSA, so, I suppose, there is no presumption that little boys won’t be molested by their clergy, so I guess mothers will protect their little boys from their clergy and it won’t be easy there either.
Drive-by Media. The assault on celibacy is far from over in the larger culture.
“The assault on celibacy is far from over in the larger culture.”
If it was easy it would be meaningless
Without knowing the poster who made that comment, I think it was directed at those who blame doctrine for the sinners who break the doctrine. No one in their right mind would take any pleasure in this.
It isn’t the creed, but the homosexuals seeking positions of power (in any guise) who have created this problem.
“Let us praise God. Oh Lord, oooh you are so big. So absolutely huge. Gosh, we’re all really impressed down here I can tell you. Forgive us, O Lord, for this dreadful toadying and barefaced flattery. But you are so strong and, well, just so super. Fantastic. Amen.” (Michael Palin as the chaplain in The Meaning of Life)
This one?
I think the one I saw was on an early program. They probably liked it and adopted it later for the movie. I seem to remember some line like, "Thou slayest me with Thy bigness"...
I could be wrong, though..it has been decades.
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