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Murdoch: Nice to Kill NY Times
newsmax.com ^ | October 18, 2007 | staff

Posted on 10/18/2007 4:14:41 PM PDT by kellynla

Rupert Murdoch, who is set to complete his $5 billion takeover of Wall Street Journal publisher Dow Jones, says he wants to move the newspaper beyond its financial core and target mainstream competitors such as the New York Times.

Speaking at a conference in San Francisco on Wednesday night, the News Corp. chief said: “We have a lot of plans and a lot of ideas that need to be refined. But I want to improve it in every way – in what it does now in finance to start with, but I also want to add more national and international news…

“I want to add major coverage of the arts, fashion and culture.”

When asked if he was aiming to kill the New York Times, he replied: “That would be nice.”

He also said he had progressive plans for the Fox Business Network, a TV channel for businesses that launched this week, The Guardian reported. He attacked competitors such as CNBC as “half dead.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: murdoch; newscorp; newspapers; newyorktimes; wallstreetjournal; wsj

1 posted on 10/18/2007 4:14:44 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

Good luck Murdoch, and nwo is the perfect time to commit the coup de grâce.


2 posted on 10/18/2007 4:16:49 PM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery.") (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: kellynla; Grampa Dave

Murdoch for President!!!


3 posted on 10/18/2007 4:18:24 PM PDT by tubebender (My weight is perfect for my height... which varies...)
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To: kellynla
“I also want to add more national and international news…I want to add major coverage of the arts, fashion and culture.”

Sounds like he'll end up killing the WSJ, not the Times.

4 posted on 10/18/2007 4:18:33 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: kellynla

The sooner the better. The Wall Street Journal would be the perfect replacement.


5 posted on 10/18/2007 4:19:43 PM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Maceman

Hope you’re wrong. Some of the Fox stuff is lowest common denominator.


6 posted on 10/18/2007 4:20:24 PM PDT by Amalie (FREEDOM had NEVER been another word for nothing left to lose...)
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To: kellynla

“asked if he was aiming to kill the New York Times”

Please, Mr. Murdoch, aim first at the kneecaps and work your way up. Take your time.


7 posted on 10/18/2007 4:20:51 PM PDT by rockthecasbah (He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat.)
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To: kellynla

At some point the dems will realize that there’s no print equivalent of PBS and NPR. The NYT will be saved with a federal bailout as the nation’s “Public NewsPaper.” PNP?


8 posted on 10/18/2007 4:20:53 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo (Earth - Taking care of itself since 4.6 billion BC)
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To: Maceman

>Sounds like he’ll end up killing the WSJ, not the Times.

Good point. I don’t see how you can kill the times by doing more of what they do.

IMO, if he can get control of those editorial pages, he can sink the times just with that, given some time.

Seeing the leftward drift of that part of the WSJ has driven a whole lot of customers away, myself included.


9 posted on 10/18/2007 4:23:39 PM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: kellynla
Harry's Bar, the NYSE, Wall Street going residential, and the end of the Wall Street Journal as we know it.

RIP, America's illustrious financial traditions.

10 posted on 10/18/2007 4:26:02 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: kellynla

The Wall Street Journal thrives as a newspaper specifically because it is THE source for news on business. None of the cable business channels can match it for coverage. The same isn’t true for other news papers. There are dozens of cable channels competing with sports, news, weather, shopping, arts, entertainment, and what have you. If he tries to make it into a clone of the New York Times he’s going to face the same competition the Times faces and it won’t be a question of his killing the Times, it’ll be a question of which dies first.


11 posted on 10/18/2007 4:28:51 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: kellynla

I sure would like it to kill the washington times first. it’s a little embarrassing that the only ‘complete’ conservative paper is owned by moonies.


12 posted on 10/18/2007 4:44:25 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
The NYT will be saved with a federal bailout as the nation’s “Public NewsPaper.” PNP?

I think you mean they'll be bailed out with Federal money owing to their position as the "News Paper of Record" (NPR), right?

13 posted on 10/18/2007 4:58:00 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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To: bill1952

“Seeing the leftward drift of that part of the WSJ has driven a whole lot of customers away, myself included.”

You, I and many other conservatives, who couldn’t tolerate Al Hunt’s bs and hatred of America posing as news and editorials in the WSJ caused many of us to cancel our subscriptions.

Hopefully, things are changing and the new WSJ will kneecap the the NY Slimes into total failure.


14 posted on 10/18/2007 5:03:02 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007))
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To: Non-Sequitur

That’s true, but the reason I don’t read the WSJ (besides the fact I don’t read any newspaper), is that I get bored with the all business approach. The reason the Times is going down is because they refuse to stop cramming unadulterated bullsh!t down the readers’ throats. Just like with FNC all he has to do is present the same kind of stuff with a middle-of-the-road approach, and he’ll thrive. Like picking up money off the street, as they say.

OTOH, I’m not so sure newspaper is the direction to go these days, but he’s the mogul, I’m the peon.


15 posted on 10/18/2007 5:07:25 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: ari-freedom

Why kill the Washington Times? Better to kill the Washington Post. No matter who owns the Times, at least it is conservative. Are you bothered or embarrased because Communists and shameless traitors who hate all Christians own the New York Times and the Washington Post. Why be bothered that “Moonies” own the Washington Times. No one else has been able to put together a conservative newspaper with any circulation in the nation’s capital or anywhere else. Aim your bullets at the enemy first.


16 posted on 10/18/2007 5:13:00 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: HKMk23

NPR, that’s better. I agree.


17 posted on 10/18/2007 5:16:04 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo (Earth - Taking care of itself since 4.6 billion BC)
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To: Maceman
“I also want to add more national and international news…I want to add major coverage of the arts, fashion and culture.”
Sounds like he'll end up killing the WSJ, not the Times.

My worry is that you may be right.

18 posted on 10/18/2007 5:23:34 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: kellynla

Art, Fashion, Culture? Oh my...

Ok, Art, I think some really smokin hot babes, in color, creative posing would be a creative addition, and different than what the times does. Some people will subscribe just for this section. If you do it my way...

Culture? Fine, lets dedicate a section to taking ours back. Christmas, Easter to start wtih, maybe Halloween since that should be easy. Oh, the culture of giving away drivers licenses to illegals, and lighting up the empire state building as a gestrue to Muslims, yup let’s tackle that too.

Finally, fashion. How about ridiculing hip hop, and reminding people and businesses that dress professional is not only appropriate, but profitable. Fashion, yes, show me some creative ways to tie a tie knot, I’m really only good at one way, would like to know how you get that big fat impressive knot.

At least you aren’t adding sports, which is currently beyond all hope, other than maybe golf and tennis.

Ok, Murdoch, you gettin all this?


19 posted on 10/18/2007 5:32:00 PM PDT by Professional
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To: ichabod1
That’s true, but the reason I don’t read the WSJ (besides the fact I don’t read any newspaper), is that I get bored with the all business approach.

I don't. I'll grant that 90% of what they publish is not of any interest to me, but the 1% or so that is of major interest is invaluable. Last year I scooped 98+% of the speakers in my industry thanks to the WSJ. Turn it into a NYT-style public rag, even a conservative high-brow "USA Today" and it's of little to no value to me.

20 posted on 10/18/2007 5:32:48 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: ari-freedom

I nominate post #12 for stupidest post of the year award.


21 posted on 10/18/2007 5:33:30 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: kellynla

Finish the Old York Times

Pray for W and Our Troops


22 posted on 10/18/2007 5:34:58 PM PDT by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: Larry Lucido

Wait until someone brings up that a significant piece of News Corp is owned by Saudis...


23 posted on 10/18/2007 5:37:58 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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I wish Murdoch had bought the NYT itself. Can you imagine all the heads that would have exploded?


24 posted on 10/18/2007 5:40:48 PM PDT by isom35
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To: ari-freedom; WashingtonSource
Why kill the Washington Times? Better to kill the Washington Post. No matter who owns the Times, at least it is conservative. Are you bothered or embarrased because Communists and shameless traitors who hate all Christians own the New York Times and the Washington Post. Why be bothered that “Moonies” own the Washington Times. No one else has been able to put together a conservative newspaper with any circulation in the nation’s capital or anywhere else. Aim your bullets at the enemy first.

I agree with WS. A couple decades ago I signed on with a local "newspaper" created by the Moonies, for the duration of an election cycle. It was evident right from the outset that they and I did not see eye-to-eye on a whole lot of issues, but that our messages to the electorate coincided 100%.

The disparity between us remains, but these folks are still allies and a few are even personal friends in the current battles.

Chop them off, we all lose.

25 posted on 10/18/2007 5:41:03 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I get the WSJ daily and have for years, but I think the Investor’s Business Daily is better on the pure business side of things. But all in all I like the WSJ best.


26 posted on 10/18/2007 6:18:31 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: Larry Lucido

you are entitled to your opinion but I don’t support cults.


27 posted on 10/18/2007 7:15:45 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: WashingtonSource

how do you go around against the WP or NY Times? liberals will still want their paper.

WSJ should focus on what conservatives want, make it more like the W times, instead of trying to attract liberals with arts and fashion and turning it into a NY Times clone.


28 posted on 10/18/2007 7:24:02 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: ari-freedom
I sure would like it to kill the washington times first. it’s a little embarrassing that the only ‘complete’ conservative paper is owned by moonies.

My guess is you never have actually read the Washington Times. It is a lively and interesting newspaper, and has a good weekly "national edition" to boot.

29 posted on 10/18/2007 8:28:06 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

of course I have read it. That is why I want the WSJ to be more like it than the NY Times.


30 posted on 10/18/2007 8:39:51 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: ari-freedom

So you’d kill an ally because you don’t like the owner’s religion? If so, you’re stupid AND dangerous. I can see you doing a religion check to someone you are sharing a foxhole with.


31 posted on 10/19/2007 6:05:16 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: kellynla

““I want to add major coverage of the arts, fashion and culture.””

That’s not what I buy the WSJ for.
Sad, sounds like the WSJ will become fluff soon.


32 posted on 10/19/2007 6:08:27 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious. Orwell)
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To: kellynla
Murdoch needs to try putting treats in the folds of his newspaper if he wants to sell more. The same way that cereal puts little toys in the box. Maybe he could put condoms or RATT Cd's in the paper.

He should also stress that the paper has multiple uses. It can be folded into a stylish hat, for example.

33 posted on 10/19/2007 6:24:05 AM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: Larry Lucido; ari-freedom

I agree with killing off the Washington Times. Like Murdoch’s, the paper is only conservative because they know that it’s an underserved niche market. But it’s grossly incompetent and ameteurish. It’s a discredit to the ideals it purports to promote, and the fact that it aggressively seeks the label of “biased, right-wing rag” while failing to articulate conservativism makes it useless.

Naturally, I’d hate to kill off even incompetent allies, but I think the Washington Examiner is better suited to the task of filling the niche market.


34 posted on 10/19/2007 6:26:55 AM PDT by dangus
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To: HereInTheHeartland

>> That’s not what I buy the WSJ for. <<

Yeah, it’s a little like promising to include cool new video games with an IBM server. Or a graphics accelerator with Oracle.


35 posted on 10/19/2007 6:28:38 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Larry Lucido

it’s not a religion, it’s a cult, like islam.


36 posted on 10/19/2007 12:23:05 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: ari-freedom

I’m through with you, but I know folks who work at the Times, and so far you’re the only kook who’s talking about “killing” anything off, so the “islam” analogy is far more appropos to your one-man cult than to anyone else. Have fun.


37 posted on 10/19/2007 12:34:21 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Larry Lucido

Murdoch: Nice to Kill NY Times

Ari-freedom: Nice to Kill NY Times and Wash Times

It means to strongly compete, not actually killing anyone. got a problem with competition?


38 posted on 10/19/2007 12:55:08 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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