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Key Democrats oppose Armenian bill (including Reps. Murtha, Skelton)
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 10/16/07 | Susan Cornwell

Posted on 10/16/2007 5:00:34 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Key Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives on Tuesday joined Republicans to warn that a resolution calling the 1915 massacre of Armenians by Ottoman Turks genocide could harm U.S. strategic interests.

But despite the rebuff, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat, did not back away from plans to hold a full House vote sometime this year.

Pelosi also came under more pressure from President George W. Bush, who had publicly criticized the resolution last week before it passed a House committee. Bush telephoned Pelosi on Tuesday and asked her not to bring the resolution to the House floor, her office said.

"The president and the speaker exchanged candid views on the subject and the speaker explained the strong bipartisan support in the House for the resolution," a Pelosi spokesman said.

The nonbinding, largely symbolic resolution passed the House Foreign Affairs Committee on Thursday despite opposition from the White House, Pentagon and former secretaries of state from both parties. It infuriated NATO ally Turkey, which hinted it might halt logistic support to U.S. troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan if the bill passes.

Turkey calls the resolution insulting and rejects the Armenian position, backed by many Western historians, that up to 1.5 million Armenians suffered genocide at the hands of Ottoman Turks during World War One. Turkey has recalled its ambassador for consultations over the matter.

Democrats, including Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania, a longtime member of Pelosi's inner circle, urged her not to bring the proposal to the floor and Republicans called the resolution another "irresponsible" foray into foreign policy.

When she traveled to Syria in April, Pelosi drew withering criticism for visiting a country the State Department accuses of sponsoring terrorism. The Armenian resolution prompted criticism from analysts and editorial writers, too.

"I've known about their position for a long time," Pelosi said when asked whether the resistance from Murtha and another leading Democrat on defense matters, Missouri Rep. Ike Skelton, would cause her to reconsider.

The resolution was introduced earlier this year by Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, a Californian with a strong Armenian-American presence in his district.

SIMILAR PROPOSALS

Armenian-Americans have been pushing for passage of similar proposals for years. Ronald Reagan, a Californian, was the only president to publicly call the killings genocide. Others have avoided the term out of concern for Turkey's sensitivities.

Murtha's office announced he would join other Democrats at a news conference on Wednesday to explain why they opposed a vote on the resolution. Through a spokesman, Murtha stressed the importance of Turkey's role in U.S. Middle East efforts.

"From my discussions with our military commanders and foreign policy experts, I believe that this resolution could harm our relations with Turkey and therefore our strategic interests in the region," Murtha said.

The United States is highly dependent on Turkey's Incirlik air base. About 70 percent of the U.S. military air cargo into Iraq transits that base, according to the Defense Department.

House aides said Murtha had written to Pelosi in February arguing against bringing the resolution to the floor.

Skelton, Armed Services Committee chairman, last week added another concern -- that the resolution could hinder a U.S. pullout from Iraq, a goal of many Democrats including Pelosi.

The Pentagon said on Tuesday it was drafting plans to bring supplies into Iraq and Afghanistan from other locations, but it would be more costly than supplying through Turkey.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, a Maryland Democrat, reacted angrily to suggestions that the resolution was part of a Democratic plan to pressure Bush on Iraq by sowing tensions with Turkey, saying there was "zero truth in that."

The Wall Street Journal editorial page suggested Pelosi might be seeking to "take down" U.S. policy in Iraq with the Armenian genocide resolution. Some analysts said Congress was shooting itself in the foot with the bill.

(Additional reporting by Kristin Roberts and Randall Mikkelsen)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 110th; armenia; armenian; armeniangenocide; armenians; democrats; nancypelosi; oppose; pelosi; turkey
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1 posted on 10/16/2007 5:00:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Stupid @ss Dems...


2 posted on 10/16/2007 5:02:53 PM PDT by Brilliant
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) speaks during a news conference in support of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), as Speaker of the U.S. House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) (R) watches, on Capitol Hill in Washington, October 16, 2007. REUTERS/Yuri Gripas (UNITED STATES)


3 posted on 10/16/2007 5:02:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Brilliant

Congress was shooting itself in the foot with the bill

I hope they’re using microstamped ammo so they can figure out who done it. ;-)


4 posted on 10/16/2007 5:03:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Brilliant

One has only to look at who the leaders are in the House and Senate. They make the Keystone Kops look like pros. :-)


5 posted on 10/16/2007 5:05:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

Love how Murtha tries to depict himself as “concerned for our military interests.” Did he confer with his friends in the military before accusing the Haditha marines of slaughtering civilians??
This whole story reads like a CYA press release from a bunch of scared democrats . Good thing a Reuters Reporter was happy to help em out.


6 posted on 10/16/2007 5:07:38 PM PDT by Cosmo (Liberalism is for girls)
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To: NormsRevenge
Big disagreement here. Genocide is genocide and needs to be named as such. Our politicians need to take Ronald Regan's example and man up on this one.
7 posted on 10/16/2007 5:08:19 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Very interesting development.

I suspect someone is reading the poll numbers.

8 posted on 10/16/2007 5:10:18 PM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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Gramma,, What did you do in the War on Terrorism? Who's side were you on?


US Speaker of the House, Democratic Representative Nancy Pelosi speaks to the
media during her weekly news briefing 11 October 2007. Fearing the loss of Turkey's
Incirclik airbase, the White House has urged House speaker Nancy Pelosi not to bring
a resolution calling Armenian killings a "genocide" to a vote.(AFP/File/Alex Wong)

9 posted on 10/16/2007 5:10:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Cosmo

I agree with your analysis.


10 posted on 10/16/2007 5:12:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Ukiapah Heep

You may have missed the backstory on this one. A lot of smart folks think Pelosi and her gang are urging this resolution in order to anger the Turks, perhaps into cutting off our use of their airspace for resupplying the troops in Iraq.

In other words, yet another effort to lose the war before President Bush ends up looking good.


11 posted on 10/16/2007 5:13:04 PM PDT by JennysCool (Don't taze me, Bro!)
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To: Ukiapah Heep

It’s been apologized for a few times already, and it was Reagan not Regan ;-) this is nothing more than a timely deliberate effort to destabilize the region. the dems at their lowest..


12 posted on 10/16/2007 5:15:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge
Congress was shooting itself in the foot with the bill

— I hope they’re using microstamped ammo so they can figure out who done it. ;-)

It has that dimwit Pelosi's name and headscarf all over it.

13 posted on 10/16/2007 5:15:16 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Ukiapah Heep

IIRC, there have been two such resolutions in the past. How many do we need?


14 posted on 10/16/2007 5:16:56 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: NormsRevenge

Pelosi is the most dangerous Speaker of the House in American history. If she’s not an out-and-out traitor (which I think she is), she’s trying her best to become one.


15 posted on 10/16/2007 5:18:06 PM PDT by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: hsalaw

“IIRC, there have been two such resolutions in the past. How many do we need?”

Just in Committee. I don’t think such a resolution has ever come up before the whole House.


16 posted on 10/16/2007 5:20:46 PM PDT by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: Cosmo
A question out of the clear blue sky started the Albanian war that wagged the dog.

Turkey's ready to pull the trigger on some mf, and it doesn't care who ... the dhims are in the back rooms laughing.

I'm pissed !

17 posted on 10/16/2007 5:21:37 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: ought-six

Thanks for the correction. I wasn’t sure of the information.


18 posted on 10/16/2007 5:25:33 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: NormsRevenge
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, a Maryland Democrat [pretended to react]... angrily to suggestions that the resolution was part of a Democratic plan to pressure Bush on Iraq by sowing tensions with Turkey... [lying (ironically) that]... there was "zero truth in that.

Steny, ol pal. Are you expecting us to believe that your faked indignance over something that happened a century ago absolutely just had to be shouted to the world right now, even though in all certainty the mere proposal of such a resolution would harm our war effort and our Country?

You Democrats always think that we are soooo stupid.

The Wall Street Journal editorial page suggested Pelosi might be seeking to "take down" U.S. policy in Iraq with the Armenian genocide resolution.

Steny, ol' chum. Has it ever occurred to you that...

1. Dems might look better to voters if they were actually FOR America? and

2. There might come a time, when you grow a conscience and realize what a tragic mistake it was to "take down" your own Country, and can't run away from your indelibly horrid anti-American deeds?

This Marine Dad suspects that we will always remember what a shameless thing you are doing, Congressman Hoyer.

19 posted on 10/16/2007 5:30:19 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner

Good to see Ike Skelton is up from his afternoon nap.


20 posted on 10/16/2007 5:33:38 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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