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More being forced out of U.S.
Chron.com ^ | Oct. 13, 2007 | JAMES PINKERTON

Posted on 10/13/2007 8:40:37 AM PDT by vietvet67

The federal government says it has steadily increased the number of illegal immigrants it removes from the country annually, but critics say the effort is still shackled by a critical lack of personnel and detention facilities.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement recently released its latest data on the number of illegal immigrants deported.

In fiscal year 2007, which ended Sept. 30, ICE deported 221,600 illegal immigrants, including 84,700 who were convicted of criminal offenses. In the previous fiscal year, 204,200 were deported, although a greater number — 89,500 — of immigrants with criminal convictions were deported.

Critics say those numbers are only a small percentage of the nation's undocumented population. They also say ICE still doesn't have the manpower or detention facility space to remove thousands of undocumented immigrants held in local jails.

''Even the most obvious candidates for deportation, people in jail whose sentences are coming to an end, we don't even get most of them thrown out of the country," said Mark Krikorian, director of the Center for Immigration Studies, an organization based in Washington, D.C., that favors limited immigration.

''The majority of criminal aliens finishing their jail time are still released into the community, rather than being deported."

A U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman did not dispute those claims.

The Department of Homeland Security estimated 302,500 illegal immigrants would be detained in state and local jails in the 2007 fiscal year, according to a report last year by the Office of the Inspector General.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; deported; dhs; ice; illegals; immigrantlist; krikorian

1 posted on 10/13/2007 8:40:38 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: vietvet67

Got fence?


2 posted on 10/13/2007 8:41:19 AM PDT by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: vietvet67

“...including 84,700 who were convicted of criminal offenses. “

Not enough, but it’s a start at getting crimaliens out of our countries
and neighborhoods.

Now need to get the fence up and working.


3 posted on 10/13/2007 8:43:46 AM PDT by VOA
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To: vietvet67

15 stinking miles...

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-fence25aug25,1,1555869.story


4 posted on 10/13/2007 8:44:35 AM PDT by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: vietvet67

The problem is that the federal government cannot do it alone. It should have, and needs the help of these illegals themselves. Rather than rounding the bulk of them up (ie more money, more law enforcement), create conditions for self deportation. They came here, and they can make it back. The “fence”, if it ever happens, should be a one-way valve. Law enforcement should be for illegals that blatantly break the law. Self deportation for the majority of “law abiding” illegals, if you’ll excuse the contradiction in terms.


5 posted on 10/13/2007 8:44:55 AM PDT by C210N
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To: vietvet67

Deport them all you want, without a lock on the revolving door they’ll be back within two weeks. Right below this thread is one on an illegal who was busted by DEA who’d previously been deported. And then there’s that woman who laughed at officials a few years ago when arrested that she’d been back and forth over 400 times.


6 posted on 10/13/2007 8:45:02 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: vietvet67

That’s great, allow 5,000 illegals to run the border a day and send 200 back each day and the federal govt and the stupids that work for it say they are doing their job?

Build the damn fence.
Round up ALL illegals and send them back from where they came.


7 posted on 10/13/2007 8:45:58 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: vietvet67

Guess it is a waste of time pointing out this to the Always Whining cacus around here. 8.7 million illegals still here thanks to a Clinton appointed Judges.

Judge Suspends Key Bush Effort in Immigration

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1909567/posts


8 posted on 10/13/2007 8:46:57 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Yo Democrats : Don't tell us how to fight the war, we will not tell you how to be the village idiots)
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To: claudiustg
Got fence?

Yes. Got a Judge who will let us build it?

Judge Delays Part of Ariz.-Mexico Fence

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1909741/posts

9 posted on 10/13/2007 8:49:05 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Yo Democrats : Don't tell us how to fight the war, we will not tell you how to be the village idiots)
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To: mtbopfuyn

They aren’t stupid.

I know one good man who came across 3 times, deported each time, the last time, he asked the Border Patrol agents how best to come to work here. It was costing him and his family too much money running by the coyotes and he had a 2 yr old with MS for whom he was trying to provide a living for medical treatment.

They took him over to the recruiter’s office. He signed up for a Navy enlistment. Four years later passed the exams and is now a naval officer and naturalized citizen.

There are legitimate ways of becoming a US citizen.


10 posted on 10/13/2007 8:49:29 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: vietvet67
Yet these criminals are not being incarcerated simply because they are in the country illegally. Nooooo!

They are incarcerated for breaking some other law, and their immigration status is purely incidental to their incarceration.

That's what makes this whole thing a travesty. The feds/WH have laughingly forfeited America's sovereignty/future to these savages and our children/grandchildren are going to have to clean up the mess.


11 posted on 10/13/2007 8:49:44 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: vietvet67

Ejecting illegal immigrants is a noble goal, but it’s not enough. I think observant Freepers will agree that it’s time to start exiling the native-born stupid. There are entirely too many out there.


13 posted on 10/13/2007 9:01:50 AM PDT by RichInOC ("You know what ve gonna do nowwwww?" "No." "Unpimp ze country!")
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To: MNJohnnie

The answer is simple.

Stop listening to the judges, dissolve the current federal court system, all of it below the Supreme Court, via legislation and start anew.


14 posted on 10/13/2007 9:05:10 AM PDT by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: vietvet67
''The majority of criminal aliens finishing their jail time are still released into the community, rather than being deported."

We deserve what we get

15 posted on 10/13/2007 9:06:00 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: C210N
Back in 1970 the State of Alaska offered all those unemployed workers who had gone North $1,000 dollars if they would leave the state and go back to Texas.

The Alaska highway was full of unemployed going South who took them up on the deal.

I wonder what the cost is to deport an illegal.

Maybe the government instead of giving a $5,000 dollar Hillary savings bond to illegals babies just offer each illegal that much money when they check out of the US heading South.

Just the opinion of a red state wannabe.

16 posted on 10/13/2007 9:09:14 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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Maybe the government instead of giving a $5,000 dollar Hillary savings bond to illegals babies just offer each illegal that much money when they check out of the US heading South.

Only works if the border is enforced and double-dipping carries a huge and almost inevitable penalty. Otherwise, you get $5000 each time you pass "Go". What a country!

17 posted on 10/13/2007 9:39:59 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: vietvet67

Perhaps there is some sort of alternative available than all the fence. May I offer a suggestion.

How about building a large 3 sided prison compound up against the southern border?

We would not have to deport anyone. Just bring them to the gate and deposit. No court system to fight, no La Raza bitching about deportation, no illegals bitching about deportation.

A whole new pot of soup!!


18 posted on 10/13/2007 9:50:26 AM PDT by crazyshrink
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19 posted on 10/13/2007 9:50:48 AM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: vietvet67

It’s a start.


20 posted on 10/13/2007 9:52:07 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: vietvet67

The Feds should stop handing out work and student visas. Many allow them to expire then hide in our society. We’re not the only source of employment in the world and we don’t have the only schools in the world. If other countries have issues with both, they need to work them out themselves.


21 posted on 10/13/2007 9:56:25 AM PDT by rbosque ("To educate a person in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." - Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: vietvet67

22 posted on 10/13/2007 10:49:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Your absolutely right but I was taking that into consideration.

The border would be enforced with a fence and new laws making it a felony for anyone to break into the country with mandatory prison sentences picking fruit on chain gangs.

23 posted on 10/13/2007 10:55:32 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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"The border would be enforced with a fence and new laws making it a felony for anyone to break into the country with mandatory prison sentences picking fruit on chain gangs."

Not only illegals. Use our present prison population to work the fields. We spend 50K a year to care for prisoners and get nothing in return. Make the growers happy and reduce their payrolls at the same time. How bad can it be getting shanked by a cucumber?

24 posted on 10/13/2007 11:07:12 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: vietvet67

It’s a start, but not a great one.


25 posted on 10/13/2007 11:26:35 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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