Posted on 10/11/2007 1:36:09 PM PDT by bocopar
Most of us have heard about the black professor at Columbia who claims a noose was hung on her office door. Well, for some reason Columbia won't give the NYPD the videotape that could crack the case without a court order. These kind of things gets the imagination rolling.
Did the black professor hang the noose on her own door and scream racism for attention? College professors have faked hate crimes before. Liberal students posing as conservatives have faked hate crimes. Was the person who hung the noose a relative of a dean or a star field hockey player?
Did O.J. do it...?
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Shouldn’t be anything a subpoena can’t fix.
It’s a damn piece of rope with a knot in it, get over it. Since when did African Americans get a trademark on nooses? Is it a hate crime if I put a picture of a guillotine on a French teacher’s door?
My money’s on OJ
maybe Al or Jesse did it!
It’s a fake. Probably done by the professor herself. The outrage is also fake. Columbia U is 100 times more likely to generate a death threat against the president (of the U.S.A., not Iran) than a noose hung over a professors door.
Seriously, hate crimes are really thought crimes.
I can just visualize one possible video:
The door opens a crack, a hand comes from within the room, the hand hangs the noose on the doorknob, the hand withdraws, the door slams shut! LOL!
The video will show either the prof or a Black student as the perp. White males attending Colombia are the least likely to leave racist messages. Copy cat noose crimes draw a lot of sympathy and attention to people who crave and need it.
Zactly what I think, too.
Also, I would add that anyone stupid to do this motivated out of pure racism, would more than likely be too young and stupid and uneducated to understand the historical significance of a noose - and unlikely to be anywhere near Columbia U.
HAHAHA I was thinking that as I read the post, and here is your comment. Great minds and all that!
“Did the black professor hang the noose on her own door and scream racism for attention?”
BING BING BING
You can look at this person’s publishings and tell she has a vested financial interest in such matters.
People like her have a great deal to lose if racism ended tomorrow. I have no doubt her kind will never let it. If racism did not exist, people like her would invent it.
Ummm..... her name isn’t Tawana or Crystal Mangum, was it?
IF there WAS a video, this Professor should be screaming to see who did that to her!!! Is it a case of the dog that did not bark???
8:5 she did it her own se’f.
Might be jumping to conclusions to write this piece at this point. Wait until there is some evidence.
But obviously, get the video.
I was watching the Prof at her presser, and I said to my girlfriend that she probably did it herself for the pub. Then as we were watching, I pointed out, she was wearing noose-shaped earrings.
Is he STILL here? :-)
Columbia, like all leftist organizations, isn’t interested in the truth — after all, it COULD have happened and that’s good enough.
So what is the “historical significance of a noose”? I figured it was just one way to carry out a death sentence. In “Hang-em High” I seem to remember a whole lot of white people in the gallows.
They are hiding something, that is obvious.
Tawana Brawley did it.
That’s my bet. Faked.
Thing!
Does this suggest Columbia might be covering up for her, in case a videotape would reveal (or has already revealed) that she did it herself?
We don't yet know about this (or perhaps care, either), but from the Ahmajewhater visit, we know that Columbia is mighty corrupt at the top. But just how corrupt are they?
And does Columbia have a lacrosse team they could pin this on?
We all know that no white outlaws were ever hanged. It’s only racist if a Black racist says so. :0)
There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.
-Booker T. Washington
to be done right???? it has to have 13 loops.
So when can we expect to see the $100 million lawsuit against the university for allowing an environment of intimidation and harassment?
I’m sure she’s never seen anything bad in her entire existence and is now irreparably scarred for life that she won’t be able to work (anymore).
Make that $200 million.
He said it far more eloquently than I ever could have.
I hope no innocent white guys get railroaded here. You can just imagine it happening. If they need a scapegoat they will probably try to pin this on some College Republican type.
My point exactly - a younger generation, racist perp would more likely associate a noose with movie westerns (ala Hang em’ High) where white, bad guys are lynched, than with lynchings of blacks in the south.
They released 56 hours of tape to the authorities. We’ll soon know who did it!
It’s still Bush’s fault.
Am the first to call this a CU Attention Whore episode?
“keep talking about us, blah, blah, blah....?”
We are reaping the fruits of that bad decision today.
Yes. It’s called a terrorist threat.
AnAmericanMother wrote:
It is truly a shame that so many in the black community decided to follow the pandering elitist/Marxist, W.E.B. DuBois, instead of the practical individualist, Booker T. Washington.
We are reaping the fruits of that bad decision today.
x x x x x
But we also are reaping the fruits of the evils of chattel slavery and Jim Crow.
I’m not excusing any race hucksters, but let’s put the heavy blame where it belongs. The slaveowners and slavetraders of centuries past are the real culprits.
There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.
-Booker T. Washington
Oh...My...Damn.
That says it all.
This should be plastered on the front door of everyone who thinks for one second that race-baiting hatemongers like Sharpton & Jackson are legit & watching out for the poor & oppressed. They’re watching out,all right...keeping a close watch on those overflowing coffers,all on the backs of mostly sorely deluded blacks who would be better served listening to the likes of Thomas Sowell or Rev. Jesse Peterson.
Not at this point.
Dr. Washington was much closer to chattel slavery (in fact, he was born a slave) than W.E.B. DuBois (born free in New England and son of a Haitian immigrant). If anybody had a right to blame 'the system', it was Washington. But he didn't, and he was right. I might as well lie around and blame the British and the 19th century Americans for oppressing my Irish ancestors.
People had a free choice to follow Dr. Washington's line of thinking and exercise personal initiative and succeed -- or follow DuBois's thinking and let the "Talented Ten Percent" do their thinking and their work for them.
A lot of people HAVE followed the Washingtonian prescription for success, and those are the folks you don't hear much about because they are busy rising into the middle and professional and upper classes.
But the noisy ones that have self-anointed themselves as part of the Talented Ten are leading far too many people astray.
AnAmericanMother wrote:
Not at this point.
Dr. Washington was much closer to chattel slavery (in fact, he was born a slave) than W.E.B. DuBois (born free in New England and son of a Haitian immigrant). If anybody had a right to blame ‘the system’, it was Washington. But he didn’t, and he was right. I might as well lie around and blame the British and the 19th century Americans for oppressing my Irish ancestors.
People had a free choice to follow Dr. Washington’s line of thinking and exercise personal initiative and succeed — or follow DuBois’s thinking and let the “Talented Ten Percent” do their thinking and their work for them.
A lot of people HAVE followed the Washingtonian prescription for success, and those are the folks you don’t hear much about because they are busy rising into the middle and professional and upper classes.
But the noisy ones that have self-anointed themselves as part of the Talented Ten are leading far too many people astray.
x x x x x
Of course, Dr. Washington was right. That wasn’t the point I was making.
The problem is that all the race pimping in the world by modern-day race hucksters (for which the hucksters are self-. accountable) does not negate the blame that belongs on the shoulders of the ancient slave traders and slave owners, and the subsequent perpetrators of Jim Crow.
It’s not an “either-or” when it comes to blame. EVERYONE is responsible for his or her own racism and racist words and acts — black, white, green, blue, long-ago, recent-past, current-day, whatever.
I do know that, as a Christian, I shudder in horror and disbelief that self-proclaimed Christians could have enslaved other people and turned them into “property” — the way we own a piece of furniture or a pet dog — on the basis of race.
Had that never happened, the U.S. would not be suffering the racial turmoil it continues to suffer. The Duke lacrosse team and Tawana Brawley are the illegimate offspring of the plantation massahs, the KKK and Jim Crow laws.
With slavery, America sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind. The modern day race hucksters are merely part of the whirlwind which had its seeds sowed long ago.
Moreover, I consider that any blame for continuing what was normal in the world from time immemorial was expunged by the efforts of Wilberforce et al. and the blood of 600-700 thousand dead in the American Civil War. 'Jim Crow' and the KKK were simply the last death throes of the old order (oddly enough the KKK was most powerful in Indiana and Illinois, go figure). But the same people that Washington recognized for what they were back in the 1890s are still in operation today.
Brawley and Duke and all the rest of the present-day nonsense are NOT the product of slavery or segregation, but the actions of evil men who take advantage of liberal white guilt (without which neither Brawley nor Mangum would have ever been believed for a nanosecond). To assign blame to the past is to excuse the present-day guilt of those who knowingly exploit their own people and those who enable them.
And, obviously, I was speaking as a Christian.
As for what was normative (slavery) at that time, I would have hoped that two thousand years of Christianity, including 1500 years in the West, would have convinced the self proclaimed Christians who took on slaves to obey Christ and do unto others as you’d have done unto yourself. Or better yet, (1) love God with all your heart, strength and mind and (2) love your neighbor as yourself.
Love. L O V E.
You don’t love someone by taking them as a slave.
Christians are called to keep themselves separate from the world and its normative standards. The “Clinton defense” that “everyone does it” doesn’t work with God.
Perhaps my mistake was to speak as a Christian.
Link by link is chain mail made. It is a modern failing to desire instantaneous, TV-show solutions to problems lasting a few millenia. It is also a modern failing to blame people in the past for failing to adhere somehow (clairvoyantly?) to modern standards. This is why C.S. Lewis championed the reading of old books -- it counteracts the modern lack of perspective.
AnAmericanMother wrote:
Maybe St. Paul made a mistake by accepting slavery as an institution (e.g. Galatians 4, Colossians 3, 4)? I don’t think so.
Link by link is chain mail made. It is a modern failing to desire instantaneous, TV-show solutions to problems lasting a few millenia. It is also a modern failing to blame people in the past for failing to adhere somehow (clairvoyantly?) to modern standards. This is why C.S. Lewis championed the reading of old books — it counteracts the modern lack of perspective.
x x x x x
Paul never accepted slavery. “Acceptance” implies approval. He merely “recognized” its reality at that time and knew, as did Jesus, that political solutions were not the way to go. To end slavery, it took changing hearts through acceptance of Christ and transformation of society one individual at a time. Paul’s writings are very clear on how human beings are to treat other human beings.
Note that Paul did not take on slaves. That is the real test.
Jesus also taught parables in which slaves and their masters figured prominently. The unconverted think these parables imply Jesus’ tacit acceptance (approval) of slavery. But, of course, slavery was in contradiction to everything else he taught so that can’t be.
But back to my original point — I work in politics professionally and my personal experiences validate the Bible — there are no political solutions (which should confound a significant number of Freepers). A society is a collection of individuals — no design blueprint for an edifice will work if a massive majority of the bricks used in fulfilling that design are themselves made of clay without straw. Top down solutions don’t work, which is why the Left will never be able to “fix” society. But, then, neither will the secular Right. Secular libertarians think that unconverted peoples can live licentiously and retain their freedom. We’re watching freedom and liberty crumble around us because of the increasingly totalitarian response of government to the excesses (both real and perceived) of many members of the citizenry.
As James Madison wrote in Federalist #51, “If men were angels, no government would be necessary.” Madison understood this because Madison was a converted Christian.
The conflicts in American (and global) society fought strictly by political means cannot and will not win in the long term. As the United States becomes increasingly secularized (on both sides of the political aisle), the political infighting only generates more hatred among the Left, Right and Ambiguous Middle.
The Gospel of Jesus Christ changes peoples’ hearts — and therefore changes what they want for themselves and for others.
In Galations 3:28, Paul observed: “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”
It also should be noted that the slavery in Israel was not chattel slavery, but bondservanthood. A bondservant placed himself into a status of indentured servanthood when he owed a debt he could not repay. He worked the debt off. Furthermore, when the Year of Jubilee came every seven years, the masters had to release their slaves even if the debt had not yet been worked off. And if a master had been so good to his “slave” that they fraternally loved one another and had a mutually dependent relationship, the “slave” could opt not to accept the Jubilee freedom and to remain a bondservant for life to that master.
We must always be very careful not to directly compare the “slavery” in Israel, which Paul was discussing, with the heinous chattel slavery of the antebellum South. Furthermore, the Gospel places even greater demands of mercy on Christians who are owed money by others. Note Christ’s other New Testament parables about forgiving debt to others.
Paul’s understanding of the gospel he claimed to have received directly from Christ was ratified by the chief Jerusalem apostles as being exactly that Jesus had taught them. The crux being to (1) love God and (2) love other people. Chattel slavery isn’t loving other people. It’s exploiting them.
By the way, I speak not only as a Christian, but as a Southerner, born in Alabama and raised there and in North Carolina during the Jim Crow period.
Been there, done that, got the T-shirt and seen it from all directions, including secular, Christian, political and apolitical.
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