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Columbia Professor: Noose Message 'Very Personal'
ABC News/GMA ^ | October 11, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 10/11/2007 12:59:57 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets

Madonna Constantine, the Columbia University professor who found a noose on her office door Tuesday morning, said she felt not only angry but embarrassed when she saw the noose.

"I know I don't really have a reason to be embarrassed about it because this was the work of someone who, you know, is not a secure person at some level, but it felt as though it was directed toward me," Constantine said in an exclusive interview today on "Good Morning America."

"It felt very personal and very degrading," she said.

New York police are treating the incident as a hate crime. They are also investigating whether the noose, first discovered by one of Constantine's colleagues, may have been placed by an angry student or another faculty member as part of an ongoing dispute with Constantine.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: abcdisneynews; academia; achillwind; boycriedwolf; columbiau; columbiauniversity; hatecrimes; hoax; liesbyomission; madonnaconstantine
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What are the odds that this is a hoax. I'm thinking 3-1 in favor of hoax.
1 posted on 10/11/2007 1:00:07 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Maybe Imanutjob left it.


2 posted on 10/11/2007 1:03:40 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

It’s as real as the black churches Clinton saw burned down.


3 posted on 10/11/2007 1:04:02 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
New York police are treating the incident as a hate crime.

Of course they are, was there any doubt?

4 posted on 10/11/2007 1:04:18 PM PDT by ladtx ( "I don't know how I got over the hill without getting to the top." - - Will Rogers)
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” I’m thinking 3-1 in favor of hoax.”

6-1!!


5 posted on 10/11/2007 1:04:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
It is very personal. I think the odds are about 10-1 that she personally did it.
6 posted on 10/11/2007 1:06:00 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: ladtx

“New York police are treating the incident as a hate crime.

Of course they are, was there any doubt?”

Area lawyers orgasm over the possibilities...


7 posted on 10/11/2007 1:06:08 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I’m betting she put it there herself. Columbia refuses to release the security tape which could identify the party responsible.


8 posted on 10/11/2007 1:07:22 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I’m betting she put it there herself. Columbia refuses to release the security tape which could identify the party responsible.


9 posted on 10/11/2007 1:07:28 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

50-50. Either way this is gonna turn into a media circus then the culprit will either be part of a hoax or some un attackable person. Like a gay-hispanic student. Then just blame white people and call it a day.


10 posted on 10/11/2007 1:07:45 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I think its a hoax but the damage is already done and if proven a hoax the story will be buried.


12 posted on 10/11/2007 1:11:45 PM PDT by alisasny (RIP Lt. Kevin “Kojak” Davis BLUE ANGELS #6 THANKYOU!!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Columbia students and professors told ABC News that they were shocked to hear of the apparently racist act at one of the nation's most well-regarded graduate education schools known for its emphasis on multiculturalism.

Multiculturalism is enough to drive any sane person out the window....the lady protests too much and.....anything can and does happen at Columbia.

13 posted on 10/11/2007 1:13:50 PM PDT by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTON'S!!!)
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To: alisasny

Probably. But hopefully any ambitious prosecutors will have learned something from the Duke fiasco, and think twice before trying to make something of it.


14 posted on 10/11/2007 1:15:48 PM PDT by Mountain Troll
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Given the lack of integrity and professionalism of both Columbia and their faculty, I vote with fraud. Quite simply, I don’t believe any of it, period.


15 posted on 10/11/2007 1:17:35 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Her press conference appeared to be immaculately rehearsed.
16 posted on 10/11/2007 1:18:10 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I hate to say this, but the very first thing that came to mind was that, yes, this is a hoax. I’ve seen too many of them in the 51 years I’ve been granted life. Maybe it isn’t. But it’s a little too convenient for a noose to show up on the door of this Columbia prof following the issues in Jena, La., and the visit from Ahmadinajad. (Serial killers are like this, too - they sometimes strike when public attention is called away by a serious news event, like when the Boston Strangler killed someone the same weekend as Kennedy’s assassination.)

I’m with you - I say odds are 3-1 in favor of hoax.


17 posted on 10/11/2007 1:19:44 PM PDT by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Link to Columbia student newpaper articles and comments section. More info.
http://www.columbiaspectator.com/node/27358#comments


18 posted on 10/11/2007 1:20:32 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

it felt as though it was directed toward me

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Ya think?


19 posted on 10/11/2007 1:21:31 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“Madonna Constantine”

Is that Italian?


20 posted on 10/11/2007 1:22:23 PM PDT by Augustinian monk (Peace if possible, truth at all costs- Martin Luther)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I automatically disbelieve any woman professor claiming to be the victim a 'hate crime' where there are no credible witnesses.

Bookmarking this page for when the university concludes that she did it herself, they'll take no action against her, and someone will say the tired old line 'She was just trying to draw attention to the numerous hate crimes of a similar nature now spreading like an epidemic across the USA'.

21 posted on 10/11/2007 1:25:14 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Godebert

NEW YORK (AP) - Columbia University has refused to turn over security videotape that could help identify who hung a noose on a black professor’s office door, police said Thursday.

Investigators began asking on Wednesday for tapes from cameras in the building, but have been rebuffed by administrators, said Paul Browne, the New York Police Department’s top spokesman.


22 posted on 10/11/2007 1:29:47 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

The ABC story left out that Columbia has security camera videos that they are refusing to give to the police. I wonder what Columbia doesn’t want us to know?


23 posted on 10/11/2007 1:30:30 PM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist - G. Carlin)
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To: Resolute Conservative

I wouldn’t be surprised...


24 posted on 10/11/2007 1:32:37 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Know thy enemy. Learn Farsi.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

If a white professor, especially a male professor, found a noose at their door it wouldn’t be considered a hate crime.


25 posted on 10/11/2007 1:33:33 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Know thy enemy. Learn Farsi.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Columbia is refusing to release the security camera tape to the police without a court order.

More phony hate?


26 posted on 10/11/2007 1:36:37 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
You beat me to it. Here's the link:

Possible Coverup?

27 posted on 10/11/2007 1:38:15 PM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist - G. Carlin)
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To: 50mm

They have security cameras, but they won’t give the videos to the police. How is there any security here? Are we sure this is an institution of higher education?


28 posted on 10/11/2007 1:38:27 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: 50mm
This isn't the first time this has happened in academia... and at a supposed prestigious institution..

http://www.knbc.com/education/3998600/detail.html

29 posted on 10/11/2007 1:38:37 PM PDT by erikm88
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To: Mountain Troll

First you have to have a suspect. She didn’t say she saw anyone hanging the noose, she just saw it hanging there. And the university won’t hand over the security camera tapes.


30 posted on 10/11/2007 1:40:35 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Somebody better warn Madonna Constantine, Jesse (Catfish)Jackson, Al (always a lie) Sharpton, and all the other race baiters out there. I am currently working on a method of taking fingerprints from rope it is almost perfected and its a very simple process. Look out Madonna I will be rolling this process out to police nationwide in about a week. Now I will ax you just once Professor. Who put this rope on your door.


31 posted on 10/11/2007 1:43:05 PM PDT by cquiggy
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

License for a mass mugging in the near future.

Al, Je$$ie, are y’all in town?


32 posted on 10/11/2007 1:45:12 PM PDT by CPOSharky (Energy plan: Build refineries and nuke plants, drill for our oil, mine our coal.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Very personal. So personal, I suspect it involved no one but her. That’s the usual pattern in these cases.


33 posted on 10/11/2007 1:47:18 PM PDT by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

One comment from the Columbia student newspaper:

As critical thinkers, we should be suspicious of any man with white privilege and class prestige because they have the most to gain from white-supremacist capitalist patriarchy.

http://www.columbiaspectator.com/node/27368


34 posted on 10/11/2007 1:53:06 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Does anybody perchance know the area of “study(ies)” this “professor” teaches? Just curious, but I am doubting chemistry or math.

Her statements sound very odd. First almost third person and then the felt and personal bit.. I say hoax.


35 posted on 10/11/2007 2:01:59 PM PDT by doodad
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vs. Constantine is involved in a lawsuit with another professor at the college, according to court records.
36 posted on 10/11/2007 2:05:11 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: doodad

Both are in the psychology dep’t.


37 posted on 10/11/2007 2:06:16 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: crazyshrink

Suniya S. Luthar
Professor of Psychology and Education

Professional Background
Professor of Psychology and Education and Director of the Cultural Winter Roundtable on Psychology and Education

Educational Background

B.S., Xavier University of Louisiana; M.A., Xavier University of Louisiana; Ph.D., University of Memphis

Scholarly Interests

Cultural competence in counseling, training, and supervision. Mental health issues of people of color in the United States and immigrants. Vocational issues of adolescents and college students of color.

Selected Publications

Constantine, M. G. (2007). Racial Microaggressions against African American Clients in Cross-Racial Counseling Relationships. Journal of Counseling Psychology, 54, 1-16.

Constantine, M. G., & Sue, D. W. (2007). Perceptions of Racial Microaggressions among Black Supervisees in Cross-Racial Dyads. Journal of Counseling Psychology, 54, 142-153.

Constantine, M. G., & Sue, D. W. (Eds). (2006). Addressing Racism: Facilitating Cultural Competence in Mental Health and Educational Settings. Hoboken, NJ: Wiley & Sons.

Smith, T. B, Constantine, M. G., Dunn, T. W., Dinehart, J. M., & Montoya, J. A. (2006). Multicultural Education in the Mental Health Professions: A Meta-Analytic Review. Journal of Counseling Psychology, 53, 132-145.

Constantine, M. G., & Sue, D. W. (Eds). (2005). Strategies for Building Multicultural Competence in Mental Health and Educational Settings. Hoboken, NJ: Wiley & Sons.

Constantine, M. G., Warren, A. K., & Miville, M. L. (2005). White Racial Identity Dyadic Interactions in Supervision: Implications for Supervisees’ Multicultural Counseling Competence. Journal of Counseling Psychology, 52, 490-496.

Miville, M. L., Constantine, M. G., Baysden, M. F., So-Lloyd, G. (2005). Chameleon Changes: An Exploration of Racial Identity Themes of Multiracial People. Journal of Counseling Psychology, 52, 507-516.

Wallace, B. C., & Constantine, M. G. (2005). Africentric Cultural Values, Psychological Help-Seeking Attitudes, and Self-Concealment in African American College Students. Journal of Black Psychology, 31, 369-385.

Constantine, M. G., Wallace, B. C., & Kindaichi, M. M. (2005). Examining Contextual Factors in the Career Decision Status of African American Adolescents. Journal of Career Assessment, 13, 307-319.

Constantine, M. G., Anderson, G. M., Berkel, L. A., Caldwell, L. D., & Utsey, S. O. (2005). Examining the cultural adjustment experiences of African international college students: A qualitative analysis. Journal of Counseling Psychology, 52, 57-66.

Constantine, M. G., Melincoff, D. S., Barakett, M. D., Torino, G. C., & Warren, A. K. (2004). Experiences and perceptions of multicultural counselling scholars: A qualitative examination. Counselling Psychology Quarterly, 17, 375-393.

Constantine, M. G., Gainor, K. A., Ahluwalia, M. K., & Berkel, L. A. (2003). Independent and interdependent self-construals, individualism, collectivism, and harmony control in African Americans. Journal of Black Psychology, 29, 87-101.

Constantine, M. G. (2002). Predictors of satisfaction with counseling: Racial and ethnic minority clients’ attitudes toward counseling and ratings of their counselors’ general and multicultural counseling competence. Journal of Counseling Psychology, 49, 255-263.

Constantine, M. G. (2001). Predictors of observer ratings of multicultural counseling competence in Black, Latino, and White American trainees. Journal of Counseling Psychology, 48, 456-462.

Perez, R. M., Constantine, M. G., & Gerard, P. A. (2000). Individual and institutional productivity or racial and ethnic minority research in the Journal of Counseling Psychology. Journal of Counseling Psychology, 47, 223-228.


38 posted on 10/11/2007 2:09:12 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: erikm88

Hoax. I would bet this is another attention getting hoax.


39 posted on 10/11/2007 2:09:52 PM PDT by HD1200
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To: crazyshrink

Hmmmm.... being a mean conservative attacking the victim, I have to say that that resume is pretty damning as far as suspecting a hoax. How many completely worthless academic papers did she publish? This is someone obviously waiting to be offended.


40 posted on 10/11/2007 2:35:57 PM PDT by boop (Who doesn't love poison pot pies?)
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To: boop

I totally agree.

I did make one mistake. The bio is that of Prof. Constantine, the one who found the noose. I forgot to put her name above it.

The other Prof named is the one in which is involved in the lawsuit with Constantine.

Don’t want anyone confused.


41 posted on 10/11/2007 2:48:54 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: redpoll
I have posted this a couple times before in different threads. The good Prof is from Louisiana. Black school children were held up and had their necks placed in a noose a week or so ago at Grambling University LA( a mostly Black University).
42 posted on 10/11/2007 3:08:37 PM PDT by seemoAR (Absolute power corrupts absolutely)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Paging AL SHARPTON and MIKE NIFONG:

They did such a great job with Crystal Gail Mangum and Tawana Brawley...Experience counts, you know


43 posted on 10/11/2007 3:23:00 PM PDT by radar101 (Duncan Hunter-The only possibility)
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To: crazyshrink

Constantine, M. G. (2007). Racial Microaggressions against African American Clients in Cross-Racial Counseling Relationships. Journal of Counseling Psychology, 54, 1-16.

Constantine, M. G., & Sue, D. W. (2007). Perceptions of Racial Microaggressions among Black Supervisees in Cross-Racial Dyads. Journal of Counseling Psychology, 54, 142-153.

Constantine, M. G., & Sue, D. W. (Eds). (2006). Addressing Racism: Facilitating Cultural Competence in Mental Health and Educational Settings. Hoboken, NJ: Wiley & Sons.

TRANSLATION:
Why Whitey hates us


44 posted on 10/11/2007 3:25:37 PM PDT by radar101 (Duncan Hunter-The only possibility)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; crazyshrink

Great post and reply #s 38/41. Great information and one more reason I love FreeRepublic.com


45 posted on 10/11/2007 3:33:08 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: radar101

One of her students?
****
One comment from the Columbia student newspaper:

As critical thinkers, we should be suspicious of any man with white privilege and class prestige because they have the most to gain from white-supremacist capitalist patriarchy.


46 posted on 10/11/2007 3:34:47 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
"What are the odds that this is a hoax. I'm thinking 3-1 in favor of hoax."

When I heard that the school was refusing to turn over the security tape for the police to view, my first thought was that it's either the professor herself or a black student. Why else would they deny the police the right to evidence that could solve the case? I guess the school had a change of heart on turning it over, but it still doesn't change my initial opinion of their trying to withhold evidence for some specific reason.

47 posted on 10/11/2007 3:51:58 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

One word.. Tawana Brawley II


48 posted on 10/11/2007 3:57:29 PM PDT by y6162
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To: crazyshrink
So, which one is she? I guess the left; am I correct?

Constantine, M. G., & Sue, D. W. (2007). Perceptions of Racial Microaggressions among Black Supervisees in Cross-Racial Dyads. Journal of Counseling Psychology, 54, 142-153.

That is frickin hilarious. Comedy Gold, baby. Did she consult on Undercover Brother for the character of paranoid brother?

49 posted on 10/11/2007 4:08:04 PM PDT by doodad
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To: crazyshrink
As critical thinkers, we should be suspicious of any man with white privilege and class prestige because they have the most to gain from white-supremacist capitalist patriarchy.

That's right, I gots my boot on your back Madonnna!

50 posted on 10/11/2007 4:11:27 PM PDT by doodad
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