Posted on 10/10/2007 3:07:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
“That’s been my life. That’s been my belief, along with marriage and the family and the other things. I can’t now abandon that because we’ve got two bad choices here.”
It's a noble cause Mr. Dobson. But sometimes you have to put it on hold. Besides, A Hillary Clinton as POTUS will be very bad for the cause, so in a sense keeping Hillary out furthers the cause, or at the very least prevents it from loosing ground.
While I understand the thought, he is actually going to ensure the death of millions more babies by being stubborn on this. It is better to elect a person who will not automatically appoint pro-abortion judges than one who definitely will.
Ruth Buzzy Ginsburg and probably others are waiting to leave with the next lib president. If a Dim gets in, we are guaranteed she will retire and new 15-20 year lib judge(s?) will be appointed and confirmed. There isn't anything like shooting yourself in the foot. If another Pub gets in, she will probably die in the office and a new appointment can be made that isn't as liberal as she is.
No I am not a Guliani supporter.
I’m with you. I would rather compromise than give in. A Democrat president, senate, and house is too much to comtemplate. The damage at this juncture would be irreversible.
What if he were? I don’t think that is either here nor there.
All that is true, and you are saying rather than vote for Fred, lets hand Hillary the white house and get it over with quickly, right? Rather than teeter on the edge, use the time to replace rino's and rebuild, lets just run as fast as we can into a brick wall.
A Third Party might be possible if Someone with a Name shows up.
The shame is on those who will support a liberal abortionist for president over a pro-life conservative when they know damned well that there are millions of pro-life Christians out there who will never vote for abortion.
Huh?
See it is very much here...and there. But instead of looking here and there, an answer to the question would be nice. Or is the answer too uncomfortable?
I've asked the same question for 4 days....maybe you could answer it.
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Dobson is finally exhibiting his long repressed Pat
Robertson gene.
***I don’t think so. He sees Fred as the frontrunner with the highest likelihood of getting the nomination, and there is really only one time for him to affect this race: Now. Fred isn’t 100% pro-life, has a lame record on CFR, gave the Clintons a pass on Chinagate, and went milquetoast in other ways when he chose to go to Hollywood rather than fight it out in the trenches of congress. My hope is that Dobson somehow endorses Duncan Hunter.
Think 19% of the vote. Think the little critter in Texas. Think another Klinton in the White House. I WILL happen. Basically, with the illegals voting and the illegal voting of the Dimocrats, she is going to rule anyway.
That was my thought too.
Over the last few weeks, that "fine Christian moral leader" seems to have started campaigning for Hillary Clinton.
Honestly, if there is a third party and they pull enough votes from the Republicans to let another Klinton or any dem into the White House.......I swear I am going to break some bones...today figuratively but on election day....who knows.
” If Dobson endorsed Hunter, his poll numbers would start going up past McCain, Paul, Tancredo, Huckabee, etc.”
It’s true, but he’s not going to do that.
Basically, we on the right must agree to disagree on the primary level and stand together on the national level. We are otherwise self-defeating. In-fighting will result in another Clinton in the White House.
Let’s debate without argument or attack and accept the result of the primaries.
I want to be rich and thin, but I’m not. I accept that. I want Duncan Hunter, but I’ll vote for the nominee.
Being true to your character is fine, even admirable. However, cutting off your nose to spite your face is just plain stupid. Even the most principled people have to make compromises. No one likes it, but better you get 70% or 80% of what you'd like than 0%. If Dobson and those who listen to him vote 3rd Party or not at all because the Republican nominee isn't perfect, then you'll end up with the most imperfect candidate imaginable. You'll end up with her appointing 2 Supreme Court Justices (at least) and dozens or hundreds of lower court judges - and that part of her legacy will last decades (in terms of who is wearing the robes) or hundreds of years (in terms of the longevity of the legal precedents established by these people.
She'll raise taxes, whereas any Republican will be hardpressed to do so (and most would cut them); most Republicans will be very hard-line on foreign policy and defense, while she'll slice our throats like her husband did; she's guaranteed to be the single most anti-gun President in our history, someone who'll likely appoint a Schumer-type to be AG (i.e. the person who is in charge of the BATF), whereas even anti-gun Rudy won't be able to much without his party's support.
Oh, yeah, and if Dobson thinks that Rudy and his crew are pro-abortion, maybe he should look at Hillary and hers. The result on that issue will be - at best - the same, while on a whole host of other important issues she'll be incredibly worse, even a disaster.
No, I don't like the idea of President Rudy. I detest it, in fact. But the worst Republican is better than the best Democrat - at least at this point in history (it certainly wasn't true 45+ years ago, but this isn't your father's Democrat Party). Dobson simply has to understand that he isn't going to ever get a candidate who agrees with him 100% of the time, and that his influence gives him a responsibility to intelligently choose between supporting an 80% candidate, or childishly taking his ball home and allowing a 0% candidate to lead our government. The man needs to think a bit more.
Example, Lieberman is Jewish, and I have praised many of his views. I wish he would switch parties, and wouldn’t vote for him for POTUS due to his others views I don’t believe in, but I respect him in many ways.
I cannot say how Dobson feels. I don’t think he said he wouldn’t vote “R” if Thompson were the nominee, I had heard he said he “wasn’t sure if he was a Christian” and that was about it.
B/S. Run, FRed, Run!!
Look at post #51.
If Spiff got some facts wrong, I’d like to know.
It appears to me that Fred is not 100% pro-life.
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