Posted on 10/08/2007 6:41:14 PM PDT by Copernicus
Even prior to redistricting, Lowenstein barely won the retiring ‘64 LBJ baby Herbert Tenzer’s seat in ‘68 against Republican Mason Hampton. From ‘53-’65, this had been the seat of Republican Frank Becker. Becker’s grandson would later run unsuccessfully against McCarthy, but he didn’t have enough $$ support.
LLS
Very well stated
If this is correct, it's a very good reason to suspect there is some nasty stuff hidden in the bill. Remember the original Brady Bill was advanced, "without objection".. at Oh Dark Thirty with less than a handful of Senators present.
That's beyond gross. Even though the 'toon was less than discriminating, I don't think even he would go that far...
(Scroll down to "Clinton Pigs")
"... So it's not surprising that, having skipped much of the legislative process, there are still a lot of unanswered questions regarding HR 2640. In fact, these questions have only been magnified after an offhanded, tongue-in-cheek remark made at the Harrisburg Community College in Pennsylvania cost a man his gun rights for life in that state.
Newspapers last month reported that Horatio Miller allegedly said that it could be "worse than Virginia Tech" if someone broke into his car, because there were guns there. It is not clear whether he was making a threat against a person who might burglarize his car, or if he was simply saying that the bad guy could do a lot of damage because of the guns he would find there. Nevertheless, Miller was arrested, but not charged with anything.
The comment Miller made was certainly not the smartest thing to say. But realize, we don't incarcerate people for making stupid statements in this country -- at least not yet. Miller was a concealed carry permit holder who, as such, had passed vigorous background checks into his past history. Miller does not have a criminal record.
Regardless, the county district attorney did not like what he had said, so, according to the Harrisburg Patriot News on June 20, "I contacted the sheriff and had his license to carry a firearm revoked. And I asked police to commit him under Section 302 of the mental health procedures act and that was done. He is now ineligible to possess firearms [for life] because he was committed involuntarily."
Get that?
Pennsylvania is operating exactly the way Rep. McCarthy's bill (HR 2640) could treat all Americans. You might be thinking, I've never had a mental illness... I'm not a military veteran... I've never been on Ritalin... hey, I have nothing to worry about under the McCarthy bill. Right?
Well, think again.
DO YOUR VIEWS ON THE SECOND AMENDMENT MAKE YOU A POTENTIAL DANGER?
The Pennsylvania case shows how all gun owners could be threatened by HR 2640. After all, did you ever tell anyone that the Second Amendment was included in the Bill of Rights because the Founders (such as James Madison) wanted the people to be able to overturn a tyrannical American government?
Or, while you were watching the nightly news -- and getting a detailed account of all the crime in your area -- did you ever make a statement such as, "If someone were to break through my door, I'd blow him away!"
Well, those kinds of statements will certainly make anti-gun nuts think you're a potential danger to yourself or others. So if you make the local district attorney or police officer nervous, how difficult would it be for him to get a psychiatrist (most of whom are very left-wing) to say that you are a danger to yourself and to others? ..."
Then there's this:
"The ISRA is expressing great concern over reports that Illinois State Police (ISP) detectives have been visiting the homes of people who phoned or faxed Sen. Dan Kotowski (D-Park Ridge) to express opposition to gun control legislation sponsored by the senator. The ISRA has recently conducted a thorough investigation into one complaint, and is gathering additional information on as many as several dozen other reported incidents of police questioning citizens who have spoken out against gun control legislation.
In the case investigated thus far, the respondent reports that ISP detectives arrived at his home, unannounced, and informed him that their visit was in response to faxes he sent to Sen. Kotowski. The detectives then went on to ask the citizen questions about his mental health and other personal matters. Although the citizen was not arrested, he reports that he feels that the detectives were there to deliver the message that it's not a good idea to criticize Dan Kotowski or the gun control measures Kotowski supports..."
(Free Republic thread posted here)
"You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in their struggle for independence."
-- Charles A. Beard, Historian (1874-1948)
Very well stated
Ditto!
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Anytime they can stick it to all of us peons that they are supposed to be working for.
Add to that the predisposition of politicians and LEO to decide which laws they will bother to enforce and which ones they will ignore or fail to fund and this new legislation is a gun grabbers best dream.
I’m going to BLOAT.
As if it makes any difference what the dam thing says. Any so called protections in the bill can easily be ignored by those trusted to enforce it or fund it. The drafters and supporters of this legislation are the true measure of what it is meant to accomplish. To measure this bill honestly, take all the negative aspects and ignore any so called protections and that will give you an idea of it's impact.
Add to that the predisposition of politicians and LEO to decide which laws they will bother to enforce and which ones they will ignore or fail to fund and this new legislation is a gun grabbers best dream.
Precisely.
Wake up America!!
Absolutely! The NRA sheeple will be along shortly to tell you just how good this bill really is...BARF!
BTTT
A Shirley Allen BTTT
(I wonder what ever happend to that poor lady)
...google the name for more info.
No wait, I meant bath powder. No, I am not crazy... Really!
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