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Sabre-Toothed Tiger Was A Pussycat
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 10-2-2007 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 10/01/2007 6:57:03 PM PDT by blam

Sabre-toothed tiger was just a pussycat

By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
Last Updated: 12:01am BST 02/10/2007

It may have had some of the most ferocious teeth ever seen on a mammal but scientists say that the much feared sabre-tooth tiger was actually a bit of a pussycat.

Smilodon, the sabre-tooth tiger, roamed across North and South America until 10,000 years ago

Powerfully built, with upper canines like knives, the sabre-tooth tiger was a fearsome predator of Ice-Age America's lost giants, such as bison and horses, perhaps even mammoths.

But while Smilodon ("knife tooth") may have had an impressive set of teeth, its bite was relatively weak, about one third as powerful as a lion, according to a computer re-creation of how it used its jaws.

Scientists from the University of New South Wales (UNSW) and the University of Newcastle in Australia used a computer-based technique normally used in the analysis of trains, planes and cars to find out what sort of forces a Smilodon skull was able to handle.

Dr Steve Wroe, a palaeontologist at UNSW, said: "For all its reputation, Smilodon had a wimpy bite. It is a bit like a moggy." But "we most certainly are not saying that Smilodon was a wimp," he told The Daily Telegraph. "It remains a truly awesome predator.

"So while our results show that its bite and skull were relatively weak, it more than made up for this with an extraordinarily powerful body and a highly specialised dental 'tool-kit'.

"You could look on it as a biological smart bomb — a balance of precision and power that enabled it to do a very dangerous job very efficiently; that is, killing big animals. Smilodon would have needed to make the killing bite only when there was no real chance of the prey moving whilst being bitten.

"This means biting only when the prey has been pinned to the ground — luckily it had the 'bear-like' build to do this, and huge claws on its 'thumbs' that would help it wrestle even bison-sized animals down to the ground."

The result was a quick kill. In contrast, lions often have to maintain a bite for many minutes to suffocate their large prey. But Dr Wroe described the lion as a "better all-rounder" in the hunting stakes.

"Smilodon was massively over-engineered for the purposes of taking small prey, but a ruthlessly efficient hunter of big game."

For the study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, the team compared two similarly-sized specimens; a fossilised Smilodon skull from the La Brea tar pits in Los Angeles, and the skull of a male lion that had lived in Taronga Zoo in Sydney.

The sabre-tooth tiger, whose fossils are found across North America and parts of South America, became extinct only 10,000 years ago. Not agile enough to catch smaller animals, it seems that it died out when its favoured large prey became rarer at the end of the most recent Ice Age.

How Smilodon used its sabres has been contentious for more than a century. Various ideas have been proposed: that the sabres were used to allow the cat to grip on to the backs of mammoths, like climbers using ice-picks, or that they were used to slice open its prey's belly.


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KEYWORDS: generalchat; godsgravesglyphs; pussycat; sabretoothed; tiger

1 posted on 10/01/2007 6:57:09 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I wouldn’t pet this “pussycat”. Those choppers look rather deadly.


2 posted on 10/01/2007 7:01:19 PM PDT by DesertSapper (Anarchists . . . Unite!)
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To: blam

Doh! Just ask Hillery! she’ll show you how they are used.


3 posted on 10/01/2007 7:02:07 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: DesertSapper

This is an idiotic headline. Anything that could kill a mammoth or short-faced bear is not to be messed with. If the sabre Tooth was still around you would see Grizzly bears run from this monster.


4 posted on 10/01/2007 7:05:54 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: blam

I tawt I taw a puddy tat!


5 posted on 10/01/2007 7:08:35 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: DesertSapper
Various ideas have been proposed: that the sabres were used to allow the cat to grip on to the backs of mammoths, like climbers using ice-picks, or that they were used to slice open its prey's belly.

Is it possible that those big teeth just got in the way? Just an thought...

6 posted on 10/01/2007 7:13:17 PM PDT by chaos_5
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To: blam
These are pussycats. That is a nightmare.

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7 posted on 10/01/2007 7:17:46 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: chaos_5
The big canines probably retracted into a mouth pouch when not in use. So the animal wouldn't impale itself on its own daggers when it closed its mouth or when it sat down to eat.
8 posted on 10/01/2007 7:17:51 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: chaos_5
Is it possible that those big teeth just got in the way? Just an thought...

That's not likely, given the length of time the critter survived (various species, about 3 million years). Those teeth were most likely evolved for a specific purpose, such as hunting the megafauna that coexisted with Smilodon for so long.

When those critters died out, so did Smilodon.

9 posted on 10/01/2007 7:22:40 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


10 posted on 10/01/2007 7:23:13 PM PDT by infidel29 (Where there's a will... I want to be in it!)
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To: goldstategop

No. As firmly anchored to the upper jaw as your teeth. (Unless you are a dentures kinda guy)...


11 posted on 10/01/2007 7:23:44 PM PDT by null and void (<---- Awake and filled with a terrible resolve...)
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To: blam

I don’t think that it really matters that it wrestled its prey to the ground before it exposed the prey’s soft underbelly and then ripped it’s throat out.


12 posted on 10/01/2007 7:29:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: PinkDolphin

Jack Bauer’s cat is out roaming around again....


13 posted on 10/01/2007 7:30:48 PM PDT by Issaquahking (N.H. FNC Debate "What did you do for America today?" Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: blam
The sabre-tooth tiger, whose fossils are found across North America and parts of South America, became extinct only 10,000 years ago. Not agile enough to catch smaller animals, it seems that it died out when its favoured large prey became rarer at the end of the most recent Ice Age.

The author doesn't mention that this coincided with the coming of humans to North America. You know, those eco-friendly Native Americans who lived in complete harmony with nature.

14 posted on 10/01/2007 7:35:32 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: blam

“Smilodon, the sabre-tooth tiger, roamed across North and South America until 10,000 years ago”

Global Warming / Bush’s fault


15 posted on 10/01/2007 7:35:57 PM PDT by Lancer_N3502A
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To: denydenydeny; blam
You know, those eco-friendly Native Americans who lived in complete harmony with nature.

Apparently the Amerindians killed all of the megafauna except for the Bison, leaving the Smilodons nothing to eat (probably too slow for the Bison). They were outcompeted and had to go.

16 posted on 10/01/2007 7:44:54 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: ohioman
If the sabre Tooth was still around you would see Grizzly bears run from this monster.

Ohhhhh, I dunno about that.

A full-grown male grizzly bear is about three times the size of one of these cats.

My money'd be on the grizz.

Remember this guy?


17 posted on 10/01/2007 7:58:53 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: goldstategop
The big canines probably retracted into a mouth pouch when not in use. So the animal wouldn't impale itself on its own daggers when it closed its mouth or when it sat down to eat.

No. Check photos of the skull.

18 posted on 10/01/2007 8:01:03 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: blam
Maybe. That still looks like one pussy who would have been eminently capable of eating you.
19 posted on 10/01/2007 8:04:21 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD kitty! (No! BAD Rich!))
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Apparently the Amerindians killed all of the megafauna except for the Bison, leaving the Smilodons nothing to eat (probably too slow for the Bison). They were outcompeted and had to go.

There have been several recent threads about a meteor over Canada some 12,900 years ago which probably engendered the Younger Dryas glacial episode and killed off both the early big game and the early big game hunters.

Check it out.

20 posted on 10/01/2007 8:05:10 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: blam
About a year ago they had a special on Discovery or something, originally from the BBC, about the Saber Tooth. They built a mechanical device to mock up the big cat’s bite and used a backhoe to work the chompers on a big carcass, to study how the things worked. Two paleontologists had competing theories, and one seemed to be right and the other off base. I forget which one proved correct.
21 posted on 10/01/2007 8:08:42 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: RichInOC
I think I saw that Saber Tooth Tiger in a movie back in the 1950’s. He was dressed in a bat cape and had a lot of mascara on his eyes if memory serves. Talked real funny and had strange dietary tendencies.
22 posted on 10/01/2007 8:11:15 PM PDT by CHEE (OK, so what's the speed of dark? - Larry the Cable Guy)
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To: blam
They'd better hurry up and figure out how to clone those things.

I want one.

23 posted on 10/01/2007 8:30:01 PM PDT by SIDENET (I don't want to find "common ground" with a bunch of damn leftists.)
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To: Coyoteman

Haven’t seen the threads, but offhand can’t see why fauna which survived multiple glacial advances would be killed by the last one.


24 posted on 10/01/2007 8:32:11 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: blam
Any other fans of Robert Adam's "Horseclans" series?

Mark

25 posted on 10/01/2007 8:42:31 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: SIDENET

You can ‘get’ one. Go to Asia and buy a Clouded Leopard (’buy’ as in illegally ....meaning don’t). Clouded Leopards are an interesting species (it is only called a leopard because it has cloudy spots), and it has the longest canines of any cat. Not exactly Smilodon long, but the closest we have to a saber-toothed cat.


26 posted on 10/01/2007 8:56:55 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Haven’t seen the threads, but offhand can’t see why fauna which survived multiple glacial advances would be killed by the last one.

That has been a puzzle for archaeologists (of which I am one) for years.

In North America, it was not the glacial advance that led to the mass extinctions of the megafauna, but the glacial retreat followed by a previously unexplained quick advance. That time period also coincides with humans and hunting, but they may not be the cause of the extinctions.

The latest findings suggest that the Younger Dryas glacial advance was caused by a meteor strike over eastern Canada, and that the subsequent rapid cooling doomed Clovis as well as much of the megafauna.

Do a google and find some of the threads/articles. It seems more plausible than most previous theories.

27 posted on 10/01/2007 9:00:19 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Dad yer funny; Cacique

"Leave the cat, kill the canary!"

28 posted on 10/01/2007 9:08:42 PM PDT by Yehuda ("Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!" (Choke on it, pinkos!))
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To: blam
Sabre-Toothed Tiger Was A Pussycat

No.  It wasn't.  Ok?  It wasn't.  A "pussycat" is that creature that sits on your grandmother's lap and whispers to her that you're worthless and that she should cut you out of the will.

The Sabre-Toothed Tiger was an incredibly deadly killing machine.

I'm so sick of editors stretching premises beyond all reason just to make a cute little pun headlines.

29 posted on 10/01/2007 9:17:34 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: mware

Hope you don’t mind if I use that picture as my October background pic.


30 posted on 10/01/2007 9:22:43 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: DuncanWaring

Jeremiah’s buddy?


31 posted on 10/01/2007 9:22:48 PM PDT by Defiant ("Expectorate" has Specter in it.)
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32 posted on 10/01/2007 9:57:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 27, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam

You go first to scratch its ears.


33 posted on 10/01/2007 10:03:19 PM PDT by Pelham ( "Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?)
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To: chaos_5
Is it possible that those big teeth just got in the way? Just an thought..

Mine as well. Here's a pic of a skeleton. Looks like an unusual lower jaw.


34 posted on 10/01/2007 10:05:56 PM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: blam
An actual photo of a saber tooth tiger.


35 posted on 10/01/2007 10:59:28 PM PDT by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment..)
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To: mware

Awwwwwwww, cute kitties.


36 posted on 10/01/2007 11:01:11 PM PDT by dighton
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To: chaos_5

One theory is that they bit the neck of the prey from below (more reason to think they brought down larger prey). The choppers were well fitted to take out everything vital (blood vessels, breathing tubes, etc) in the neck, without taking the backbone of some of the larger animals of the day.


37 posted on 10/02/2007 8:48:46 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: blam
when its favoured large prey became rarer at the end of the most recent Ice Age.

Darned global warming screwing it up for the pussy cats.

38 posted on 10/02/2007 1:11:27 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Coyoteman

“When those critters died out, so did Smilodon.”

and with the current proposal that a cometary airburst explosion over north america 13000 years ago directly contributed to the extinction of so many large mammals (and humans), this predator would have been on the short list of those whose food chain was disrupted.


39 posted on 10/03/2007 12:49:50 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Issaquahking

Jack Bauer’s cat could beat up Chuck Norris’ cat.
:P


40 posted on 10/09/2007 10:05:52 AM PDT by Shimmer (But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. Kipling)
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