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Accused in murder, grinning 19-year-old chastised by judge
Kansas City Star ^ | Sep. 28, 2007 | Dawn Bormann

Posted on 09/29/2007 7:39:40 PM PDT by Graybeard58

Robert Haberlein is a 19-year-old charged with first-degree murder, but the grin on his face Friday in Wyandotte County Juvenile Court belied the gravity of that charge.

And it didn’t sit right with the judge.

Wyandotte County Judge David W. Boal surprised the courtroom Friday when he interrupted an attorney and focused his attention on Haberlein. In a stern and frank voice, he demanded to know what the Kansas City, Kan., teen found funny about a premeditated murder hearing.

The young man couldn’t answer.

“Well, then, why don’t you wipe the grin off your face and get serious,” the judge said. “This is all going to get serious real quick.”

Minutes later, Boal denied Haberlein and 17-year-old Amber Russell of Lenexa permission to leave police custody.

Both are charged with first-degree murder, aggravated kidnapping and aggravated robbery in the 2005 beating death of Robin K. Bell, a Tonganoxie woman who was working as night manager at a Bonner Springs store.

Haberlein and Russell were charged in juvenile court because they were 17 and 15 when the crime happened, prosecutors said. John W. Backus, 20, of Bonner Springs is being held on the same charges. His bond has been set at $1 million.

Authorities allege that the three murdered the 44-year-old woman on Nov. 11, 2005.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; juveniles; rkba
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1 posted on 09/29/2007 7:39:44 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

Right, the judge’s behavior was “shocking”. (Not the grinning murder defendant).


2 posted on 09/29/2007 7:44:23 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Graybeard58

Kill him.


3 posted on 09/29/2007 7:44:56 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Graybeard58

“Did you have $hit for breakfast, boy?....Well then, wipe the $hit eatin’ grin off your face!”


4 posted on 09/29/2007 7:50:01 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be Exorcised)
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To: Graybeard58

Why is he grinning??? Your honor ... he is in juvie at age 19, soon to go free no matter what you do to him. Whatever prevented him from facing charges as an adult is what caused the chit-eating grin.


5 posted on 09/29/2007 7:51:28 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: Graybeard58

Here's the little scumbag.

6 posted on 09/29/2007 7:57:40 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: NonValueAdded

You are right, he’s being charged as a juvenile and knows that at most all he will get is a slap on the wrist.


7 posted on 09/29/2007 7:59:23 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

wipe the grin off your face before I knock it off. Oh well, that wouldn’t have been PC would it? Could have hurt the feelings of the perp.


8 posted on 09/29/2007 7:59:48 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: Graybeard58
Why wasn't this scumbag charged as an adult? He wouldn't be smiling then.

Give him life in prison

9 posted on 09/29/2007 8:00:08 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate to ever run for office)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

The eyes are creepy, like he’s already dead.


10 posted on 09/29/2007 8:01:01 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Graybeard58

An article on Wednesday said there had been no decision on whether to charge the Haberlein and Russell as adults. If this is still true, that s***-eating grin might have some influence on that decision.


11 posted on 09/29/2007 8:02:31 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Graybeard58

Take him out back and shoot him...


12 posted on 09/29/2007 8:05:10 PM PDT by Amazon7 (FR is my homepage.)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
Haberlein and Russell were charged in juvenile court because they were 17 and 15 when the crime happened

I believe this decision is recent.

13 posted on 09/29/2007 8:06:41 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

Does being charged “in juvenile court” specifically mean they aren’t being charged as adults?


14 posted on 09/29/2007 8:09:22 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: antiRepublicrat

Morally, he is dead. He is the type who always made me happy to have an S&W under my shirt.


15 posted on 09/29/2007 8:10:27 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
I would think that's what it means but I'm not a lawyer, maybe one will weigh in.
16 posted on 09/29/2007 8:15:28 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

The hearing for two of three people charged in the 2005 beating death of a Bonner Springs woman is set for today.

A judge postponed the hear for 20-year-old John Backus of Bonner Springs and 19-year-old Robert Haberlein of Kansas City, Kansas.

They, along with 17-year-old Amber Russell of Lenexa, are accused of beating Robin Bell at the Dollar General store she managed.

For a long time, there were no suspects in this case. The break came last week when officers were interviewing Haberlein about an unrelated crime.

Backus is being held in the Wyandotte County jail on a one million dollar bond.

Story Created: Sep 28, 2007 at 9:05 AM EDT

Story Updated: Sep 28, 2007 at 9:05 AM EDT
http://www.ksnt.com/news/local/10105171.html

(this will probably add to the confusion...I don’t get it, either)


17 posted on 09/29/2007 8:27:16 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Graybeard58

I’m thinking the Kansas juvenile court still has the ability to determine whether he is to be tried as a juvenile or as an adult.

But I’m not a lawyer either. Like you said, maybe one will weigh in.


18 posted on 09/29/2007 8:27:23 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Amazon7
Take him out back and shoot him...

I'll supply the ammo.

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19 posted on 09/29/2007 8:30:24 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

The 19th century had better justice than now. Whatever the negatives, they were worth it.


20 posted on 09/29/2007 8:32:27 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

Wyandotte County District Attorney Jerome A. Gorman said he charged John W. Backus, 20, of Bonner Springs, with first-degree murder, aggravated kidnapping and aggravated robbery. The same charges were filed against Robert M. Haberlein, 19, of Kansas City, Kan., and Amber M. Russell, 17, of Lenexa, in Wyandotte County Juvenile Court. Gorman said he had not determined whether he would seek to try them as adults.
http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/292431.html


21 posted on 09/29/2007 8:33:58 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Graybeard58

Charged and Juveniles.... disgusting. Old enough to do the crime, old enough to do the time (or pay the price).


22 posted on 09/29/2007 8:35:21 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: antiRepublicrat
The eyes are creepy, like he’s already dead.

I noticed that, too.

Most of the perps of this type of crime seem to have that look.

23 posted on 09/29/2007 8:37:41 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Graybeard58

Perhaps this “boy” was thinking of all the new friends he is about to make.


24 posted on 09/29/2007 8:49:58 PM PDT by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Uh huh.

I came across one the other day being a punk to a kid, guessing he was the “boyfreind” and I was a few feet away.

Just stared him down daring him to look into my eyes, punk didn’t have the gonads too and he knew I was glaring at him.


25 posted on 09/29/2007 8:54:51 PM PDT by Global2010 ( Duncun Hunter 08)
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To: Williams
Right, the judge’s behavior was “shocking”. (Not the grinning murder defendant).

Nowadays, it IS shocking to see a judge who doesn't coddle defendants!

26 posted on 09/29/2007 8:55:04 PM PDT by lgwdnbdgr
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To: Williams

These three are accused of beating to death a poor working woman 44 years old at a Dollar General at night. Her husband called the police and asked them to check on her when he couldn’t reach her. It happened in Bonner Springs KS. All three perps were teenagers when they did it. They are beyond help.


27 posted on 09/29/2007 8:58:48 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Cobra64
You say;

Then show us a picture of some perfectly good .45 ACP.

Too big, too heavy, too much knockdown power...the perp would die too fast.

How about a few hundred rounds of .22 C/B caps, instead? And stand back just far enough that they only penetrate *a little*? Kneecaps alone, could be made to soak up 20-30 rds., a piece!

29 posted on 09/29/2007 9:14:51 PM PDT by BlueDragon (a handgun is best used for fighting one's way to a RIFLE)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I guess most people are lucky enough not to have to deal with creeps like this, but when you face them there is no doubt that they will hurt or kill you, if they get the chance. There is no love or kindness in them. If they are decent to someone, it is because they want something.
This punk isn’t near as evil looking as some I’ve seen, but if they don’t lock him up for good, he will likely get worse.


30 posted on 09/29/2007 9:14:52 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Graybeard58

One thing is for sure, these aren’t two yutes.


31 posted on 09/29/2007 9:17:36 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: WannabeTurk

According to your post history you were through with us here at Free Republic back on the 19th, yet here you are 10 days later still calling us names.


32 posted on 09/29/2007 9:18:24 PM PDT by txroadkill ( http://iraqstar.org)
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To: WannabeTurk

No “fascists” here, friend, just a few old hounds that have hunted some wolves. He is due his trial, then, if found guilty, he needs to hang.


33 posted on 09/29/2007 9:23:15 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I have met a few. You are right. They care about nothing and no one but themselves and what they want. They only serve someone to serve themselves.

They would just as soon kill someone as look at them, if they thought it would get them what they want.

34 posted on 09/29/2007 9:24:39 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

His ears are way too low. Should have been left on the rocks when he was born.


35 posted on 09/29/2007 9:26:35 PM PDT by GRANGER (We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. - Ann Coulter)
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To: Graybeard58

Hmm. If the woman the little p.o.s. killed was a relative of mine, I would want him released immediately. People who depend on police and lawyers and courts and judges, etc., for justice are pathetically naive. It’s okay when all that stuff works, but way too often it just doesn’t work.

So the punk will end up just another slapped-on-the-wrist juvenile, huh?
Oh well.... The victim wasn’t MY relative. C’est La Vie.


36 posted on 09/29/2007 9:38:15 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: WannabeTurk
I guess “innocent until proven guilty” is just so much bs for the fascists of Free Republic.

Look, I'm neither judge nor jury, but when a 19-year-old is picked up by the police and questioned for 3 counts of felony theft, and then he provides credible evidence in a 2-year-old murder-by-beating case -- evidence credible enough to charge all 3 suspects -- and then he shows up in court to be formally charged with premeditated murder -- and he stands there grinning... that tells me something. It tells me in no uncertain terms that, whatever his relationship to that particular premeditated murder, he's a scumbag.

37 posted on 09/29/2007 9:51:38 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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But maybe, since you regard that nice boy as so “innocent,” you won’t object if we invite him to spend a couple of weeks staying in your home?


38 posted on 09/29/2007 9:54:10 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Amazon7

“Take him out back and shoot him...”

Exactly my solution. One night take him out back of the courthouse, kneel him down in the grass and shoot him in the head.


39 posted on 09/29/2007 9:56:57 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (")
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

I don’t know anything about this guy. He may be guilty as sin. I do know that I have a son that gets what looks like a grin on his face when he’s nervous or upset. He can’t help it. It’s just what his face does. It has gotten him in trouble before.


40 posted on 09/29/2007 10:14:39 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

41 posted on 09/29/2007 10:20:25 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

Ew.


42 posted on 09/29/2007 10:23:55 PM PDT by Niuhuru (businesslinkshere.com)
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To: txroadkill; SWAMPSNIPER

WannabeTurk - Banned or suspended.


43 posted on 09/29/2007 10:24:01 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

WannabeTurk:

Banned or suspended.


44 posted on 09/29/2007 10:25:36 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

45 posted on 09/29/2007 11:03:15 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: BlueDragon
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46 posted on 09/30/2007 12:32:24 AM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
With those eyes? He'll be more than occupied in prison. In fact there will be men lined up to make him feel welcome. See if he's grinning then. Wouldn't be surprised if it happened on his first night.
47 posted on 09/30/2007 2:32:59 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

No Rhodes scholar here folks.


48 posted on 09/30/2007 2:35:09 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: CindyDawg
I don’t know anything about this guy. He may be guilty as sin. I do know that I have a son that gets what looks like a grin on his face when he’s nervous or upset. He can’t help it. It’s just what his face does. It has gotten him in trouble before.

Hmmm... I suppose that's a possibility.

Well, all I can say is: let the trial begin.

49 posted on 09/30/2007 8:11:02 AM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

Bubba’s new sex toy to share with all his buddies.


50 posted on 09/30/2007 9:33:44 AM PDT by chiefqc
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