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Did Edwards say what I thought he said? (Video at #31)
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Posted on 09/27/2007 5:26:57 PM PDT by cjmae

A lib buddy of mine called me and told me to turn on MTV. John Edwards was taking questions from young students. I wasn't but half way paying attention when I heard a young lady ask him something about his solution for inner city crime. Edwards said something like we can't build enough prisons to hold all of the criminals or eventualy there will be no black people left because they would either be in jail or dead. I'm paraphrasing of course and I don't want to start something that's not accurate but if that is what he said that has got to be either one of the most racist or stupidest things I've ever heard a politician say. Did anyone else hear it?


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To: WakeUpAndVote

Thanks.

I wish Hillary was that stupid.


51 posted on 09/27/2007 5:54:22 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

What’s most funny is that the brain-dead audience just accept it as gospel, there’s even some little trollip writing notes. Not a single brow raised.


52 posted on 09/27/2007 5:55:56 PM PDT by agooga (XXXXXX Tagline Curse: By reading this tagline, you will die in 30 days XXXXXX)
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To: grundle
What a freakin trip

Thanks for the help

53 posted on 09/27/2007 5:56:33 PM PDT by cjmae (Sanity was not equally distributed)
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To: Old Sarge
There is going to be a rebroadcast of this on MTVU, it is the 24 hour college MTV channel. Never heard of it, must be on digital cable or satellite.
54 posted on 09/27/2007 5:56:34 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: KJC1

Wonderful idea

Thank you


55 posted on 09/27/2007 5:58:07 PM PDT by cjmae (Sanity was not equally distributed)
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To: cjmae

Chill... It’s not as if a Republican said it.


56 posted on 09/27/2007 5:58:38 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Don’t bet on that! The machine will erase this from the consciousness of the nation, unless someone has some room on a hard drive someplace.


57 posted on 09/27/2007 5:58:50 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Old Sarge

YUP, he said of young black males “pretty soon.... they’re all gonna be in prison, or dead.”

He will try to spin and say he was describing the result of eviiiillll Republican policies, and how terrible American racist society is, but that’s what HE said about the future! He’s toast, crispy burnt toast.

Unfortunately, that will only make the wide open road even easier for Shrillery through the primaries....


58 posted on 09/27/2007 5:58:58 PM PDT by Enchante (Democrat terror-fighting motto: "bleat, cheat, retreat & defeat, we suck on liberal teat")
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To: agooga

I know, the whole audiance is just in a big duh moment that just does not stop! They had no idea let alone a clue of what he just said to them.


59 posted on 09/27/2007 5:59:20 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: cjmae

It was hyperbole. Not literal. It was meant to make Blacks feel as though if the White power structure had it’s way all Blacks would either be dead or in jail. It wasn’t meant to make it sound like every Black deserved to be dead or in jail, and I wouldn’t take it that way. What’s ridiculous is that Blacks themselves are in positions of power in a lot of places yet we’re supposed to keep on believing that Whites run everything so when anything goes wrong it’s their fault.


60 posted on 09/27/2007 6:00:31 PM PDT by txrangerette (Congressman Duncan Hunter for POTUS...check him out!!)
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To: Old Sarge

Just Wow! So according to Breck Girl, all the black men in America that are not in prison or dead is because they haven’t been caught yet. LoL, that platform may actually help him with the left.


61 posted on 09/27/2007 6:01:21 PM PDT by txroadkill ( http://iraqstar.org)
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To: agooga
“What’s most funny is that the brain-dead audience just accept it as gospel, there’s even some little trollip writing notes. Not a single brow raised.”

They thought he was great according to the MTV web site.
Amazing

62 posted on 09/27/2007 6:01:35 PM PDT by cjmae (Sanity was not equally distributed)
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To: All

This is nothing more than a botched joke. Nothing to see here.

(sarcasm/off)


63 posted on 09/27/2007 6:01:58 PM PDT by abishai
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Someone rip this link! The only thing accessible is the adbar!


64 posted on 09/27/2007 6:03:09 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: cjmae

Yes—and poor people are poor because nuclear power plants are polluting the air.


65 posted on 09/27/2007 6:04:23 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: struggle; WakeUpAndVote; y'all

It’s still there as of this moment, I can get to it - but I can’t rip it, somebody help!


66 posted on 09/27/2007 6:05:04 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Enchante

On second viewing... I heard this differently.

I heard him say that IF the only proposed solution to the inner-city crime problem is to build more prisons, then all young African Americans will either be dead or in prison—that OTHER solutions are required (universal healthcare, yadiyadiya...)

Granted, he said it in a way that could be used against him, but I think it may bite those in the rear that try to do so.


67 posted on 09/27/2007 6:05:20 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Old Sarge; M. Thatcher

Guess it’s time to ping Paul Shanklin.


68 posted on 09/27/2007 6:05:49 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: cjmae

Silky Pony bump.


69 posted on 09/27/2007 6:06:06 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: donnab

“just heard it ..thanks for the link
has anyone sent this to michelle or to fox?”

I just emailed it to Laura Ingraham and Glen Beck.


70 posted on 09/27/2007 6:06:52 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: txroadkill

Wow


71 posted on 09/27/2007 6:07:56 PM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Message received, is message sent" Claire Cooper)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Yes, we have to preserve this before MTV takes it down.


72 posted on 09/27/2007 6:08:31 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: calcowgirl

I am not hearing “if” in there.


73 posted on 09/27/2007 6:09:12 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: cjmae; Admin Moderator

Thanks, Admin, for updating the title thread. :^)


74 posted on 09/27/2007 6:09:23 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: WakeUpAndVote; All

Nice work!! What a maroon that Edwards is. Of course, he’ll just say he was speaking hypothetically, more believable by the sheeple than if a Republican had said the same thing.


75 posted on 09/27/2007 6:10:57 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (FRED!)
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To: cjmae
This is the main quote that I jotted down, in response to question about what Edwards would do for inner city youth....

"We start with the President of the United States saying to America 'we cannot build enough prisons to solve this problem'.... The idea that we just keep incarcerating and incarcerating.... pretty soon we're not gonna have an African-American male population in this country.... they're all gonna be in prison or dead."

Then he went into a whole lotta pandering about education, health care, then crime statistics -- he pulled the usual leftist trick of citing only outcomes, i.e., he whined that black males are charged and convicted at higher rates and get longer sentences without any reference to actual CRIMES committed.
76 posted on 09/27/2007 6:11:47 PM PDT by Enchante (Democrat terror-fighting motto: "bleat, cheat, retreat & defeat, we suck on liberal teat")
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To: diverteach

yeah you...thanks


77 posted on 09/27/2007 6:12:07 PM PDT by donnab
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To: Enchante

Ah, you just beat me to that.


78 posted on 09/27/2007 6:13:29 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: cjmae
Maybe he went kamikaze. It looks like he is standing on the Japanese Rising Sun.
79 posted on 09/27/2007 6:14:29 PM PDT by Shqipo (Anonymous Sedition is a helluva read....)
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To: cjmae

send it to Drudge...


80 posted on 09/27/2007 6:15:07 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: cjmae

Countdown to Drudge...

9

81 posted on 09/27/2007 6:15:20 PM PDT by itsamelman (Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh. - - Al Swearengen)
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To: ricks_place

The Des Moines Red Star is even piling on:

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070927/NEWS09/709270393/1001


82 posted on 09/27/2007 6:17:00 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Westerners continue to explore the expanse of space...meanwhile, Muslims continue to sit in the dirt)
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To: cjmae
" I bet the Clintons will let it out when they need to."

Oh yes. If it was how it sounded to you, then I'm sure it's making its way through the 'war room' press cycle as we speak. Emails, phone calls, and faxes will be going out before the end of the night.

83 posted on 09/27/2007 6:17:31 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: digger48
Yikes!

The larger of the little green-roofed "bumps" between the mansion and the stables is basically my entire house.

I wonder if he uses that to house the poverty stricken in his neighborhood?

84 posted on 09/27/2007 6:17:42 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit ("A liberal feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.")
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To: calcowgirl

Well he definitely started from “we cannot build enough prisons to solve this problem” — but that IMPLIES that no matter how many prisons we build ALL black males will commit crimes until “they’re all gonna be in prison, or dead” (his words). I see what you are saying, and that’s what he will say he meant, BUT the fact remains that the implication of HIS OWN words are that ALL black males are potential and likely criminals and that in the course we are on as a society ALL black males will end up in prison, or dead. He may spin and try to say he’s only describing evilllll Amerika and evilllll Republican policies (which on crime have been supported by many Democrats and a large majority of Americans), but his words are still very embarrassing for him and the Demagogues (and rightly so).


85 posted on 09/27/2007 6:18:19 PM PDT by Enchante (Democrat terror-fighting motto: "bleat, cheat, retreat & defeat, we suck on liberal teat")
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To: KoRn

Check post 31 if you haven’t heard it yet.

I believe he is his own worst nightmare.


86 posted on 09/27/2007 6:21:45 PM PDT by cjmae (Sanity was not equally distributed)
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To: diverteach
He’s toast.

He's a dem. All he has to do is say it was a joke gone bad. No harm intended.

87 posted on 09/27/2007 6:22:36 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Old Sarge

Well done, Lil’ Bro, your Buckhead Moment has come.

Bump.


88 posted on 09/27/2007 6:22:58 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: cjmae
He did say it. He was asked how to solve the problem of violence in America. He said we can't build enough prisons to solve the problem. "If we just incarcerate, incarcerate, incarcerate...pretty soon we're not going to have a young African American male population in America. They are all going to be in prison or dead." Smooth move idiot.
89 posted on 09/27/2007 6:23:37 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Thanks for the link!


90 posted on 09/27/2007 6:24:54 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: cjmae

maybe he’ll sue himself for that remark...


91 posted on 09/27/2007 6:24:57 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (sing after me......de-por-ta-tion cha-cha-cha)
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To: txroadkill

You have saved the world from a Breck Girl administration..... oh, wait, there wasn’t much chance of that before..... well you STILL did a great thing to help expose the Pandercrats and the stupid things they really think.


92 posted on 09/27/2007 6:25:56 PM PDT by Enchante (Democrat terror-fighting motto: "bleat, cheat, retreat & defeat, we suck on liberal teat")
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To: Enchante; Old Sarge

About 4 seconds after he said it, he paused. He knows what he said but, he spun out of it and the crowd was to dim to know the difference.


93 posted on 09/27/2007 6:26:19 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: cjmae

Yeah, that’s pretty bad. LOL

I’m sure that’s not what his thinking was, but it sure as hell came out that way, and he DID say it with such conviction. ;^)


94 posted on 09/27/2007 6:30:11 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

He doesn’t say “if” and his phraseology is awkward.

But the question was... “what will you do to help eliminate inner city kids partaking in crime...”

And he says “... You start with the President of the United States saying to America we cannot build enough prisons to solve this problem and the idea that we’re gonna just keep incarcerating and keep incarcerating - pretty soon we’re not gonna have an African American population - they’re all gonna be in prison, or dead.”


95 posted on 09/27/2007 6:30:30 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Yes, of course it also exposes the kind of hyperventilating extremes that the Demagogues go to much too often. If he had simply said “TOO MANY young black males are in prison” that would have been more understandable (but then the question is, are significant numbers of INNOCENT black men in prison? No one has offered any credible evidence that is the cast). Even then, he completely ignored any actual individual responsibility for criminal behavior. He immediately blamed everything on American society. Sorry, Breck Girl, I am not responsible for ANY criminal behavior by anyone. People have to take responsibility for their own failings. Do blacks (and whites, and all races) have a tougher road if they grow up in bad neighborhoods, with bad influences, etc.?? OF course. But crime is crime, and everyone learns from a young age what is against the law. Those who choose to commit crimes, of whatever race, gender, etc. still should face the consequences of their acts. Edwards spoke as though there is NEVER any individual responsibility, as though everything is society’s fault. For THAT he should also be righteously grilled to a crisp.


96 posted on 09/27/2007 6:32:51 PM PDT by Enchante (Democrat terror-fighting motto: "bleat, cheat, retreat & defeat, we suck on liberal teat")
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To: Enchante

But he was talking about the inner city. I interpreted it that the gangs and violent crime are so bad that, absent some action other than building prisons, the bad guys will end up in jail and the good guys will be killed in gang wars.

He then goes on to suggest various (leftist) methods to solve the problems.

Just my interpretation of what I heard.


97 posted on 09/27/2007 6:34:28 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

ooops, my #92 was supposed to be a response to your posting of the video link at #31


98 posted on 09/27/2007 6:34:53 PM PDT by Enchante (Democrat terror-fighting motto: "bleat, cheat, retreat & defeat, we suck on liberal teat")
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To: calcowgirl
"I interpreted it that the gangs and violent crime are so bad that, absent some action other than building prisons, the bad guys will end up in jail and the good guys will be killed in gang wars."

That's probably his best way out if this does become much of an issue. I do think the biggest problem is not his remark "they're all gonna be in prison, or dead" but in fact all the ridiculous leftist pandering, hyperventilating, and non-solutions that followed.
99 posted on 09/27/2007 6:37:03 PM PDT by Enchante (Democrat terror-fighting motto: "bleat, cheat, retreat & defeat, we suck on liberal teat")
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To: Past Your Eyes
In that case, I wish somebody had Tivo’d Disney’s “Song of the South”. I sure would like to see it again but I’ve been told there’s no chance in this politically correct world.

Went to a local gun show a while back, and some guy had a booth selling DVDs of old TV shows and movies that are now considered politically incorrect. He had "Song of the South," old "Amos 'n Andy" episodes, etc.

Yet another reason for libs to want to ban gun shows, I guess.

100 posted on 09/27/2007 6:37:13 PM PDT by Texas Mulerider
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