..Rod Liddle looks like a faggot
Posted on 09/23/2007 10:02:00 AM PDT by goarmy
Blackwater is a private company that does the dirty work for America in various wars, both covert and those we know about all too well. It began only 10 years ago as a sort of cheerful paintball and shooting range in the Great Dismal Swamp of North Carolina, but these days it has some 20,000 mercenaries on its books (the “whores of war”), not to mention a whole bunch of quasi-military aircraft, a military base, lots and lots of guns and connections with precisely the right people.
It was brought into existence by Erik Prince, a somewhat right-of-centre Roman Catholic zealot who hails from a singularly unlikable, filthy-rich Michigan dynasty. Prince has the ear of the White House and his firm has been rewarded with plenty of extraordinarily lucrative no-bid contracts for security work in, for example, Iraq – where Blackwater’s most prominent task was to look after the idiotic and fanatical L Paul Bremer III during his term as US administrator immediately after the war.
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How can security details made up of Blackwater USA's staff NOT be accountable to anyone? This is especially the case if they're guarding the US Ambassador to Iraq, the CINC, and Maliki, et al.? This doesn't make sense, and it is so obvious that to utter the phrase "not accountable to anyone" goes beyond disinformation, it's a LIE.
Is Erik Prince of the Prince Manufacturing dynasty ?
Since the Democrat Congress of the 1970’s under Sen. Frank Church’s direction cut the gonads off of the CIA regarding “dirty” foreign assignments, it was only a matter of time that something like Blackwater had to arise. The world is not perfect; we have had, continue to have and will always have enemies, both domestic and foreign, who want to end our way of life and positive influence in the world, no matter what the cost. If you’re going to play in the mud of the world, you’re going to get dirty, but you’ll survive. And the world is going to get a whole lot muddier, wait and see.
He kept saying Blackwater wasn’t accountable to anyone, which didn’t make sense to me either.
No agenda there. And 'singularly unlikable' is a new one. You'd think that term might be reserved for families like the Borgias.
Sounds like more Leftist whining. They won’t be happy until we’re all socialist, Spanish-speaking Moslems who require government permission - and forms filled out in triplicate - to fart.
“...forms filled out in triplicate - to fart.”
Thanks for making me laugh.
“Blackwater.” It’s just “Halliburton” by another name to the panty party and their prissy columnists.
Yes.
Wow! Just as soon as you forget how disgusting a self-righteous, preening, lefty pseudo-intellectual can be, along comes a review like this one. What a DWEEB!
Nah, I didn't think so.
“How can security details made up of Blackwater USA’s staff NOT be accountable to anyone?” It’s easy. Since our military has been, basically, cut in half, we need them. We need to rebuild our military which would mean there would be no need for them. I’d bet that we will see the draft come back in the near future. If Iran or Syria light off a nuke, any place in the world, especially here, all hell is going to break loose and we will not have any trained military to respond.
“Since our military has been, basically, cut in half, we need them. We need to rebuild our military which would mean there would be no need for them. I’d bet that we will see the draft come back in the near future.”
I believe that you’re missing the point. How can Blackwater USA be trusted with such high-profile security details without having someone responsible? The MSM’s desire to cast such contractors aside (see: Halliburton) and to demand that our military do these things does, indeed, stretch our guys thin. Our troops are doing their jobs by keeping the terrorists off-balance by hunting them down and killing them. This is much better than to have them do security, something that contractors (most with the military training greater than or equal to our troops in the field) are certainly capable of carrying out.
The draft is an entirely different issue, but I’m quite certain that if an enemy had the audacity to nuke us on our soil that military enlistment would be through the stratosphere and a draft wouldn’t be needed, but that’s supposition on my part.
The review is a bunch of hooey. These types of writers sure do froth at the mouth with righteous indignation that proves they’re just full of hot air and self-importance.
..Rod Liddle looks like a faggot
Widdow liddow is a journalist of some repute??? I’ve never heard of him. Has he been following the so called Black Hand around the war zones of this world? Does he have the nerve or the courage? I don’t think so.
Ooooops blackwater not black hand.
“where Blackwater’s most prominent task was to look after the idiotic and fanatical L Paul Bremer III during his term as US administrator immediately after the war”
I’m calling BS on this one.
The USMC, 2nd FAST and later, 3rd FAST provided security for that AO.
Brit twit......
I’m glad Blackwater is out there, I’ve been reading up on them and my son has had contact with them in Iraq quite a bit. A no holes-barred, well trained and experienced forward thinking group. Very professional, the writer is just another faggot liberal.
My brother just contracted with them.
Lefties have turned FORMAL soldiering into a weird amalgam of lawyering and food distribution.
Of course there would still be a need for REAL soldiering, and well, Blackwater IS IT --expect much more of it.
I also think they're the solution for our troubles on our southern border. Hey, cops and BP can't solve it? I know men WHO CAN...!
You would think the author of a book would know the meaning of words used in its title. Blackwater employees are not mercenaries by any accepted definition of the term. They are Americans who take an oath of loyalty to the Constitution.
Liberal ignorance on parade.
Only if your girlfriend gets elected, spud.
Blackwater is accountable to their client. As it should be.
Truth is, this business of contracting out certain services to Halliburton, Blackwater and the many other private companies serves as a massive force multiplier.
People whine that we should have 500,000 troops in theater like we’ve always done before. Well, add in the troops replaced in the rear-echelon by contractors and the troops freed up by contractors doing security assignments, and that’s pretty much what we’ve got there now.
Is that really true? Wow. Tough record to keep over the long haul, but impressive so far.
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I don’t have first hand knowledge but my brother does as he worked at Prince when he moved down state.
I was part of a FEMA DMAT team after Katrina and the federal government hired Blackwater people to do security for our team. They seemed to be very good at what they do, and most were retired or current police officers who were once Rangers, Seals, Force Recon, etc. One of the people on our detail said that he was part of a Blackwater force that did some covert actions in Afghanistan after 9/11. He said it was because he wasn’t military that the military wanted them to go in.
Now, it could have been B.S. but he said other stuff that seemed truthful that I believe it. (I’m a former Marine.) They seemed very competent and professional.
I don't know. Probably because the 9mm caliber is the most popular handgun caliber in the world.
Well, not that I am complaining mind you, but being that Black Water personnel are not military, they don’t fall under the UCMJ. And, it is my understanding that all Black Water personnel have diplomatic immunity from an agreement t with Iraq Government, going back to the early days of their deployment. So, it would appear to me that they do not fall under any legal jurisdiction in Iraq - which is different from not being accountable to anyone.
While I have no issue with Black Water, I think it would be prudent to keep them on a tight rein. Historically, mercenary’s have been difficult to control. One previous poster stated that they are accountable to their employer. Perhaps so but their loyalty is to each other. One need research this no further than the French Foreign Legion and events that took place in Algeria when ordered by the French government to stand down and return to France back in the early 60's. But, I am ok with merc's as they can do wet work that the military is prevented from doing or won't do because of a moral issue with doing. Just have to keep an eye on them...
I understand that it's popular, but so is socialized healthcare. IMHO, the 9MM makes an OK purse-gun round, although I prefer my wife to pack a .357 Magnum; I pack a Charter Bulldog Pug chambered in .44 Special.
Just what is Blackwater’s job in Iraq, or anywhere. I know that at their NC base they train police and some military units. But overseas - what?
Their primary function is that of executive protection - expanded to convoy protection. Their rules of engagement are the same as the State Dept. security group. When they come under fire, they never stop and duke it out. All in this type of duty are well trained go full speed through the trap to safeguard their charges - cargo or people. This is a given!!
How does that get to be dirty work?
War is hell, but you know that going in.
What I learned is that the book's author, Jeremy Scahill, is a liberal Democrat socialist with an agenda. In fact, he's a regular contributor to 'The Nation' and no doubt a MoveOn mouse. Apparently, in his book Scahill tends to veer off into unrelated subjects like how the Christians are destroying America, etc. As one citizen reviewer pointed out, the book could have been written by Cindy Sheehan.
Um...no “holes” barred?
Yeah, no kidding. Everyone else is going back to the .45 Auto and they release another 9MM? It’s almost like they don’t know what a handgun is for.
Sounds great! But since I anticipated the caliber war; I don't need to participate. These are my Whitman Samplers.
Bon nuit.
.45 ACP is still unsurpassed after almost a century.
barbra ann
Agreed. Here's the model I have:
Doobie Bros
Well, meaning that they do get things done within their scope of operations, sure, there are ROE, limitations it goes without saying. But loose cannons on deck without accountability is not the case.
When all this is done, if ever, we will eventually learn a lot about their accomplishments, meanwhile it must be pretty tough not getting due credit for their accomplishments, even less than our military.
Like one told me (another similar contractor), when their folks are killed or wounded putting their all into the mission (whatever mission it may be at the time), it’s a non-event, you rarely hear about it.
I wasn’t taking issue with what you said, my apologies.
I was just referring to your use of a certain expression - I believe the term is “no holds barred.” In other words, some holds are prohibited in certain grappling matches, and a “no holds barred” match is one in which any hold is allowed, or “anything goes.”
I just thought maybe that was a typo. I’m not sure what a “no holes barred” match would look like.
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I agree Rammer, and thanks!
Oh and one more thing - thanks for serving! Our country can never thank our vets enough.
BW has done a tremendous amount of good in both Iraq and Stan (and elsewhere). Their services are needed and while they have grown (perhaps too quickly in some aspects) what BW has set up and accomplished in such a short time is remarkable....(and this nation is safer because of it).
I just thought maybe that was a typo. I’m not sure what a “no holes barred” match would look like.
With all the talk of calibers - I think the “no holes barred” is still appropriate!
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